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Norton · 10-07-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gjbkk

What the F*** is goin on in the UK

Not sure. Something about right, left, liberal, conservative, stuff.

All a mystery how it applies to the OP!

AntRobertson · 11-07-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thegent

That should be " not TO mention ".

Ad hominem comments are fun and add spice to an otherwise paltry diet hardly worth consuming.

What's your problem? You remind me of Sabaijai/Joe Cummings on TV who also wittered on about ad hominem attacks particularly when he had been bested in arguments he only half understood.

Lighten up lad and show a little dexterity with that keyboard.

thegent (that’s meant to be ironic, is it?),

I don't have a problem. If you want to debate the issue, any issue for that matter, then go right ahead.

However if your goal is just to drown me out in an ever rising flood of verbosity, spell-checking my posts, unlilaterally declaring yourself the 'winner', condescension and multiple-syllable insults then you’ll have to find the salve for whatever insecurity it is that drives you elsewhere. Basically, I can’t be bothered. You call it "fun", I say it's tedious and juvenile - look at how much time has already been wasted with what is nothing more than ancillary and pointless nonsense at the expense of reasonable debate.

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Anyways, anarcho syndicalism, nihilism, stalinism, fascism and antidisestablishmentarianism are all examples of valid political labels universally understood and still applicable in a modern context should one wish to expound in such terms.

So, where is your argument now?

"Universally understood", there's my argument. The examples you've given very well may be but that's irrelevant; the labels in issue aren't and that's the entire point.

bkkandrew · 11-07-2008, 10:56 AM

Suprised no-one has posted the Littlejohn article today about The Isle of White Council advetising for Air Traffic Controllers using application forms in Braile.

Then again, this thread is now a private spat between Ant & Gent. A bit like Ant & Dec, but without the humour...

AntRobertson · 11-07-2008, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bkkandrew

Then again, this thread is now a private spat between Ant & Gent. A bit like Ant & Dec, but without the humour...

Six total posts in a 9pg thread... How does that work then?

bkkandrew · 11-07-2008, 11:42 AM

^Guess it just seems more due to the tedium.

As you were then...

AntRobertson · 11-07-2008, 11:46 AM

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Guess it just seems more due to the tedium

Excite us with the Littlejohn article then why don't you.

bkkandrew · 11-07-2008, 11:54 AM

OK:

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Blind leading the blind on the Scilly Billy islands

A few years ago, a London council advertised for van drivers. It particularly welcomed applications from the visually impaired.

I can remember thinking at the time that 'WANTED: Blind Drivers' was about as daft as 'diversity' got.

You expect this kind of mindless madness from the more deranged metropolitan authorities. But now the Scilly Islands has gone one better. An advert for an air traffic controller offered application forms in Braille. I'm sorry, I'll just feel that again.

The Scilly Islands council argues that it had no option under equal opportunities legislation. That, presumably, is also why it recently printed forms for an internal vacancy in several different languages, some of them scribble. Only existing employees were able to apply.

And how many members of ethnic minorities does this remote island council employ? None. That doesn't prevent everyone seeking a job from having to fill in a 'diversity' monitoring form, inviting them to choose their ethnic origin from 21 different categories.

Needless to say, 'English' is not one of them. I wonder if they do Braille in 21 different languages, too.

As Denis Healey might have said: 'What a lot of Scilly Billies.'

Six years for sex on an Arab beach... what did she expect? | Mail Online

Milkman · 19-07-2008, 07:44 AM

This article about recent violence in London, and urban planning in London. I cannot comment, so if anyone from the UK wants to, please do:

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An interview with Enrique Peñalosa, the much in demand urban theorist and former mayor of Bogotá, perhaps sums up shopping malls best in the current issue of Monocle with the line: “when malls become a meeting place, it’s a sign that a city is sick.” That the people responsible for London’s built environment allowed such a development to move forward requires an official inquiry.

Beginning:

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Band-Aids won’t save Britain

By Tyler Brûlé
July 18 2008

How can you tell when a developed country is on a fast-track to becoming a failing or failed state? Does it only become official when Christiane Amanpour – CNN’s chief international correspondent – shows up with a documentary crew to chronicle a nation’s unchecked decline? Or can a big, fat “FAILED” stamp be applied long before there’s enough material to persuade an advertiser to sponsor the show?

Last Sunday I returned to Britain after a week spent weaving through Switzerland visiting clients, seeing friends and imagining the future of the media with my colleagues. Over the course of the weekend a large part of our conversation focused on the wave of knife crimes and general disorder that is currently suffocating the UK. There was a collective sense of disbelief and embarrassment when we read that some clever spark advising the Home Secretary wanted to take young knife wielders into hospitals and family sitting rooms to meet victims and distraught parents alike.

On a train from St. Moritz to Zürich, there was a subtle sense of wonder, not only at the low cost of a clean, punctual journey but also that wi-fi was available on the higher speed portion of the trip and the bar trolley dispensed a decent espresso. At Zürich airport, security staff were swift and efficient in their handling of passengers and, at the advertised hour, our Airbus pushed back for the flight to London.

Seventy-five minutes later, we arrived at a terminal that was heaving with annoyed, bewildered passengers and had the faint odour of failure – sweat, mildew, urine and a nasty scent attempting to cover up all of the former. Now, before you race to your laptop and write to tell me that Geneva’s Cointrin airport ain’t exactly great either and that Switzerland is a dull, dangerous place full of far too many referendums that should never see the light of day – keep reading.
As we made our way into central London, we travelled along a rubbish-lined motorway and then turned on to rubbish-strewn streets. Set back from the curb were shuttered shopfronts, little street-life and patchy street lighting.

Further along, we hit the impossibly ugly high street that runs along the top of Shepherd’s Bush, then caught a glimpse of the even uglier new shopping development behind it. Why a relatively central stretch of London requires a suburban style of planning is still a mystery. That this plot of land hasn’t been turned into a proper mixed-use, awe-inspiring building to further generate development in the UK will go down in the history of urbanism as one of the great, wasted opportunites of the 21st century.

Link: FT.com / Columnists / Tyler BrÃ»lÃ© - Band-Aids wonâ€™t save Britain

bkkandrew · 21-07-2008, 02:28 PM

Photographing thugs 'is assault', police tell householder snapping proof of anti-social behaviour

A householder who took photographs of hooded teenagers as evidence of their anti-social behaviour says he was told he was breaking the law after they called the police.

David Green, 64, and his neighbours had been plagued by the youths from a nearby comprehensive school for months, and was advised by their headmaster to identify them so action could be taken.

One of Mr Green's pictures shows two hooded teenagers, one making an obscene gesture towards the camera

But when Mr Green left his £1million London flat to take photographs of the gang, who were aged around 17, he said one threatened to kill him while another called the police on his mobile.

And he claimed that a Police Community Support Officer sent to the scene promptly issued a warning that taking pictures of youths without permission was illegal, and could lead to a charge of assault.

Concern: David Green

Last night Mr Green, a television cameraman, said he was appalled that the legal system's first priority seemed not to be stopping frightening anti-social behaviour by aggressive youths, but protecting them from being photographed by the concerned public.

Mr Green, a father of two, lives with his programme-maker wife Judy in a penthouse flat close to Waterloo station.

He said: 'We've had problems with this group shouting abuse and throwing stones for months, and were asked to identify them.

'When I went to take photographs of eight of them throwing cans of Coke around, six of them ran away, one threatened to kill me, and another one started phoning the police.

'A couple of hours later a Police Community Support Officer told me I had been accused of assault, though no such thing occurred, and told me I was not allowed to take photographs of teenagers on the street.

'I think it's wrong that when teenagers are running riot and the police are called, it's about me, and I'm treated like a criminal.

'In South London we all know how many stabbings there have been, and I think the police should be busy catching the real bad people.'

Mr Green said he handed his pictures to a deputy headmaster at the nearby Nautical School, and was promised the matter would be investigated.

A Metropolitan Police spokesman said the force had no record of the incident.

Last week the Daily Mail reported that a father was told by a play equipment supervisor he was not allowed to take pictures of his own children on a slide.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...behaviour.html

darksider · 21-07-2008, 02:43 PM

That typifies the malaise we are suffering from, the rights of the scrote outweigh everything else.

ItsRobsLife · 23-07-2008, 01:17 PM

Three years and three months for killing an innocent lad!! What kind of message is that sending? WTF.

Teenager jailed over punch death

Jamie Sloane had several previous convictions for drunken violence

A teenager has been jailed after killing a student outside a takeaway in Dorset with a single punch.
Jamie Sloane, 18, was on bail for affray and criminal damage when he hit Nathan Ridler, 17, outside a Subway outlet in Bournemouth in February,
The attack happened as Nathan tried to break up a confrontation involving Sloane, Winchester Crown Court heard.
Sloane was sentenced to three years and three months in a young offenders' institute after admitting manslaughter.
Student Nathan had intervened and pushed Sloane off balance when he had tried to strike one of his friends in the early hours of 24 February, prosecutor Carolyn Branford-Wood QC said.
Several minutes later Sloane came out of the takeaway and hit Nathan. He later told police this was because it took him time to "get his bottle".
Witness Ryan Moore told police: "He (Nathan) was hit with a single forceful punch to the left side of the head. It was a massive force. I will never forget it."

One witness said Nathan Ridler was hit with a "savage blow"

Thomas Cowd, who also saw the punch, described it as a "savage blow".
Nathan hit his head on the pavement as he fell from the punch and died later that day in hospital, the court was told.
When arrested, Sloane, from Pauntley Road, Christchurch, Dorset, told police he felt threatened by the group.
He pleaded guilty to manslaughter at an earlier hearing.

Sentencing Sloane, who had several previous convictions for drunken violence, Judge Guy Boney QC said on Monday: "The consequences of your actions were appalling - they cost a boy of 17 his life." He was sentenced to three years and three months in a young offenders' institution for the manslaughter and a further nine months to run consecutively for the affray and criminal damage charges he was on bail for at the time of the killing. In that incident in July last year, he had damaged a car and swung a punch at a man while drunk.

BBC NEWS | England | Dorset | Teenager jailed over punch death

ANGER AT KILLER'S SENTENCE
By Paula Roberts
FOUR YEARS: Jamie Lee Sloane
THE devastated parents of street violence victim Nathan Ridler have spoken of their "life sentence of heartache without our wonderful son".

Thug Jamie Lee Sloane, who was put behind bars for four years, threw a punch at the 17-year-old after he tried to intervene during an altercation at a late-night takeaway in Bournemouth on February 24.
Defenceless Nathan had his hands in his pockets and fell heavily, hitting his head on the pavement.
Sloane, 18, of Pauntley Road, Christchurch, was sent to a young offenders institution for three years and three months for manslaughter and a further nine months for affray and criminal damage to run consecutively.

Nathan's parents Alan and Deirdre, of The Grove, Moordown, said: "Nathan had a wonderful future ahead of him. Along with Nathan's life being taken away, all of our lives have been destroyed.
"Ridiculously short sentences are sending out the wrong message to the young thugs and murderers today.
"If you take someone's life you should have a life sentence - not just a few years, followed by government handouts to get him started.
"If we need more prisons we should build them. We seem able to find the money to fight wars in any country we choose."

VICTIM: Nathan Ridler
They added: "We need to get our priorities correct and stop this so that other families to not have to endure what we are going through. A life sentence of heartache without our wonderful son and brother Nathan."

Winchester Crown Court heard that Nathan, 17, had been out celebrating a friend's 18th birthday at the Empire nightclub.
Prosecuting Carolyn Branford-Wood said at about 2am Nathan and his friends moved on to Subway in Holdenhurst Road, where an altercation took place with Sloane and his friends.
Sloane had tried to hit someone over the head with a beer glass and it was at this point Nathan had intervened, Miss Branford-Wood said.
She added: "He pushed the defendant off balance slightly, saying to him Just leave it there'."
A short time later, Sloane walked out of Subway and towards Nathan, who was standing a short distance away, and hit him with a single forceful punch.
Eyewitness Thomas Cowd told police: "It was a savage blow to this young chap who was totally defenceless standing there with his hands in his pockets."
Nathan died in hospital at 10pm the same day.

Sloane told police he had felt "verbally intimidated" by the group. Asked why he had left it so long before he punched Nathan, Sloane said: "Well it takes me a bit of time to get my bottle."
She said the affray and criminal damage matters relate to July 15 2007 when drunk Sloane jumped on a car in Christchurch, threw a punch at the owner and tried to get into a house.
Sloane has previous convictions for assault, criminal damage, public order and drink driving.
Frank Abbott, mitigating, said Sloane is sorry and remorseful.
Sentencing Sloane, Judge Guy Boney QC told him: "You are no stranger to the kind of late night casual street violence, usually fuelled by drink, that is the curse of present day city life."

Anger At Killers Sentence (from Bournemouth Echo)

Sir Burr · 25-07-2008, 05:18 PM

The Nanny State gone mad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7524526.stm

Begbie · 26-07-2008, 05:38 PM

Smokers should be put in the stocks. It would save them 30 quid.

cujo · 28-07-2008, 05:04 PM

UK universities breeding Islamic extremism.

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GLOBAL JIHAD
1 in 3 Muslim students approve killing for Islam
'Stop talking about celebrating diversity and focus on integration and assimilation'
Posted: July 26, 2008
7:25 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily
If ignorance and poverty are responsible for the growth of extremist views in the Islamic world, someone needs ask to Muslim students, privileged enough and bright enough to attend some of the United Kingdom's best universities, why one-in-three of them endorses killing in the name of Islam.
The report of this finding, based on a poll of 600 Muslim and 800 non-Muslim students at 12 universities in the UK, and conducted by YouGov on behalf of the Center for Social Cohesion, will be released tomorrow as "Islam on Campus."
Among its findings of Muslim beliefs:

40 per cent support introduction of sharia into British law for Muslims
One-third back the idea of a worldwide Islamic caliphate based on sharia law
40 per believe it is unacceptable for Muslim men and women to associate freely
24 per cent do not think men and women are equal in the eyes of Allah
25 percent have little or no respect for homosexuals.
53 per cent believe killing in the name of religion is never justified (compared with 94 per cent of non-Muslims), while 32 per cent say it is
57 percent believe Muslim soldiers serving in the UK military should be able to refuse duty in Muslim countries
More than half favor an Islamic political party to support their views in parliament
One-third don't think or don't know if Islam is compatible with Western views of democracy

"Significant numbers appear to hold beliefs which contravene democratic values," Hannah Stuart, one of the report's authors, told the London Times. "These results are deeply embarrassing for those who have said there is no extremism in British universities."
The report echoes one released last year by the Policy Exchange which found 37% of all Muslims aged 16-24 would prefer to live under a sharia system.
In addition to polling of 1,400 students, the researchers visited more than 20 universities to interview students and listen to guest speakers brought on campus. The report notes radical Islamic preachers regularly deliver inflammatory speeches that target homosexuals and border on anti-Semitism.

"Our researchers found a ghettoized mentality among Muslim students at Queen Mary (college)," said James Brandon, deputy director at CSC. "Also, we found the segregation between Muslim men and women at events more visible at Queen Mary."
A spokesman for Queen Mary told the Times the university knew Islamic preachers had spoken on campus but was unaware of what they had said.
"Clearly, we in no way associate ourselves with these views. However, also integral to the spirit of university life is free speech and debate, and on occasion speakers will make statements that are deemed offensive," he said.
Wes Streeting, president of the National Union of Students, condemned the study: "This disgusting report is a reflection of the biases and prejudices of a right-wing think tank – not the views of Muslim students across Britain. Only 632 Muslim students were asked vague and misleading questions, and their answers were willfully misinterpreted."
The report was criticized by the country's largest Muslim student body, the Federation of Student Islamic Societies. Most of the Islamic societies on campuses operate under the FOSIS umbrella.
The authors of the report note that campus Islamic societies have, in the past, been where some UK terrorists became radicalized. They cite Kafeel Ahmed, who drove a jeep engulfed in flames into a building at the Glasgow airport last year and died of his burns. Investigators believe he adopted jihadist beliefs while studying at Anglia Ruskin university, Cambridge.
In April, WND reported that the director-general of MI5 had warned the government that donations of hundreds of millions of pounds from Saudi Arabia and powerful Muslim organizations in Pakistan, Indonesia and the Gulf Straits had led to a "dangerous increase in the spread of extremism in leading university campuses."
"The finding that a large number of students think it is okay to kill in the name of religion is alarming," said Anthony Glees, professor of security and intelligence studies at Buckingham University.
"There is a wide cultural divide between Muslim and non-Muslim students. The solution is to stop talking about celebrating diversity and focus on integration and assimilation."

1 in 3 Muslim students approve killing for Islam

mad_dog · 29-07-2008, 10:51 PM

New Labour have produced an almost totalitarian Big brother Nanny state. Libertarianism is the only way yeah!

bkkandrew · 04-08-2008, 11:26 PM

Householders who put too much rubbish in their bins face tougher punishments than shoplifters and drunken louts.

Environment Secretary Hilary Benn has backed on-the-spot fines of up to £110 for those who overfill their bins, leave them out too early, or put out extra sacks of rubbish alongside them.

The price of defying rubbish regulations is £30 higher than the £80 fixed penalty fine given to shoplifters or those involved in drunken disorder in city centres.

The confirmation that Labour has been putting pressure on town halls and their bin police comes after three years of rapid growth in the number of fines handed out to residents for 'littering' - the offence committed by those who infringe strict wheelie bin rules.

Around 20,000 tickets for breach of rubbish collection rules are thought to have been issued in 2006, the latest year for which figures have been released. Tickets usually demand fines of £100 or £110.

Legislation covering on-the-spot fines for bin offences says they should be at least £75, but lays down no upper limit.

The Government has always insisted that the upper levels of bin fines were a matter for local councils to decide, but yesterday the Environment Department confirmed that ' enforcement' guidance laid down for councils from Whitehall has set the £110 level.

A spokesman for Defra said: 'The guidance is not new. It sets fines at between £75 and £110.'

Now families who overfill bins could get a £110 fine... compared to just £80 for drunken yobs and shoplifters | Mail Online

paulsmithson · 05-08-2008, 01:07 AM

\Country has gone to the dogs, Invaded without a single shot being fired.Drestined to become a Dimmi state to the mudslimes in the very near future. Thank god I am out of it and living here where we have PAD and people who love their country! The land of the free is no longer the USA nor the Uk nor anywhere in Europe---it is here where the people have the right to protest and a good king and total loyalty to their country . FFS I live here on a visa issued for 12 months and subject to legal and finacial checks. How I wish the Uk did the same.

21-07-2008, 02:28 PM	#169 (permalink)
bkkandrew Clingin' on... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BKK Posts: 4,002	Photographing thugs 'is assault', police tell householder snapping proof of anti-social behaviour A householder who took photographs of hooded teenagers as evidence of their anti-social behaviour says he was told he was breaking the law after they called the police. David Green, 64, and his neighbours had been plagued by the youths from a nearby comprehensive school for months, and was advised by their headmaster to identify them so action could be taken. One of Mr Green's pictures shows two hooded teenagers, one making an obscene gesture towards the camera But when Mr Green left his £1million London flat to take photographs of the gang, who were aged around 17, he said one threatened to kill him while another called the police on his mobile. And he claimed that a Police Community Support Officer sent to the scene promptly issued a warning that taking pictures of youths without permission was illegal, and could lead to a charge of assault. Concern: David Green Last night Mr Green, a television cameraman, said he was appalled that the legal system's first priority seemed not to be stopping frightening anti-social behaviour by aggressive youths, but protecting them from being photographed by the concerned public. Mr Green, a father of two, lives with his programme-maker wife Judy in a penthouse flat close to Waterloo station. He said: 'We've had problems with this group shouting abuse and throwing stones for months, and were asked to identify them. 'When I went to take photographs of eight of them throwing cans of Coke around, six of them ran away, one threatened to kill me, and another one started phoning the police. 'A couple of hours later a Police Community Support Officer told me I had been accused of assault, though no such thing occurred, and told me I was not allowed to take photographs of teenagers on the street. 'I think it's wrong that when teenagers are running riot and the police are called, it's about me, and I'm treated like a criminal. 'In South London we all know how many stabbings there have been, and I think the police should be busy catching the real bad people.' Mr Green said he handed his pictures to a deputy headmaster at the nearby Nautical School, and was promised the matter would be investigated. A Metropolitan Police spokesman said the force had no record of the incident. Last week the Daily Mail reported that a father was told by a play equipment supervisor he was not allowed to take pictures of his own children on a slide. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...behaviour.html __________________ The future of TeakDoor: To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. A funny thing happened today - Ant trolls, stalks, prevokes and generally upsets approximately 15 members of the board, yet Noodles goes to jail. Perhaps it was a dream... To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

23-07-2008, 01:17 PM	#171 (permalink)
ItsRobsLife Nakhon Phanom Last Online: Today 06:21 PM Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The thin ice of modern life. Posts: 514	Three years and three months for killing an innocent lad!! What kind of message is that sending? WTF. Teenager jailed over punch death Jamie Sloane had several previous convictions for drunken violence A teenager has been jailed after killing a student outside a takeaway in Dorset with a single punch. Jamie Sloane, 18, was on bail for affray and criminal damage when he hit Nathan Ridler, 17, outside a Subway outlet in Bournemouth in February, The attack happened as Nathan tried to break up a confrontation involving Sloane, Winchester Crown Court heard. Sloane was sentenced to three years and three months in a young offenders' institute after admitting manslaughter. Student Nathan had intervened and pushed Sloane off balance when he had tried to strike one of his friends in the early hours of 24 February, prosecutor Carolyn Branford-Wood QC said. Several minutes later Sloane came out of the takeaway and hit Nathan. He later told police this was because it took him time to "get his bottle". Witness Ryan Moore told police: "He (Nathan) was hit with a single forceful punch to the left side of the head. It was a massive force. I will never forget it." One witness said Nathan Ridler was hit with a "savage blow" Thomas Cowd, who also saw the punch, described it as a "savage blow". Nathan hit his head on the pavement as he fell from the punch and died later that day in hospital, the court was told. When arrested, Sloane, from Pauntley Road, Christchurch, Dorset, told police he felt threatened by the group. He pleaded guilty to manslaughter at an earlier hearing. Sentencing Sloane, who had several previous convictions for drunken violence, Judge Guy Boney QC said on Monday: "The consequences of your actions were appalling - they cost a boy of 17 his life." He was sentenced to three years and three months in a young offenders' institution for the manslaughter and a further nine months to run consecutively for the affray and criminal damage charges he was on bail for at the time of the killing. In that incident in July last year, he had damaged a car and swung a punch at a man while drunk. BBC NEWS \| England \| Dorset \| Teenager jailed over punch death ANGER AT KILLER'S SENTENCE By Paula Roberts FOUR YEARS: Jamie Lee Sloane THE devastated parents of street violence victim Nathan Ridler have spoken of their "life sentence of heartache without our wonderful son". Thug Jamie Lee Sloane, who was put behind bars for four years, threw a punch at the 17-year-old after he tried to intervene during an altercation at a late-night takeaway in Bournemouth on February 24. Defenceless Nathan had his hands in his pockets and fell heavily, hitting his head on the pavement. Sloane, 18, of Pauntley Road, Christchurch, was sent to a young offenders institution for three years and three months for manslaughter and a further nine months for affray and criminal damage to run consecutively. Nathan's parents Alan and Deirdre, of The Grove, Moordown, said: "Nathan had a wonderful future ahead of him. Along with Nathan's life being taken away, all of our lives have been destroyed. "Ridiculously short sentences are sending out the wrong message to the young thugs and murderers today. "If you take someone's life you should have a life sentence - not just a few years, followed by government handouts to get him started. "If we need more prisons we should build them. We seem able to find the money to fight wars in any country we choose." VICTIM: Nathan Ridler They added: "We need to get our priorities correct and stop this so that other families to not have to endure what we are going through. A life sentence of heartache without our wonderful son and brother Nathan." Winchester Crown Court heard that Nathan, 17, had been out celebrating a friend's 18th birthday at the Empire nightclub. Prosecuting Carolyn Branford-Wood said at about 2am Nathan and his friends moved on to Subway in Holdenhurst Road, where an altercation took place with Sloane and his friends. Sloane had tried to hit someone over the head with a beer glass and it was at this point Nathan had intervened, Miss Branford-Wood said. She added: "He pushed the defendant off balance slightly, saying to him Just leave it there'." A short time later, Sloane walked out of Subway and towards Nathan, who was standing a short distance away, and hit him with a single forceful punch. Eyewitness Thomas Cowd told police: "It was a savage blow to this young chap who was totally defenceless standing there with his hands in his pockets." Nathan died in hospital at 10pm the same day. Sloane told police he had felt "verbally intimidated" by the group. Asked why he had left it so long before he punched Nathan, Sloane said: "Well it takes me a bit of time to get my bottle." She said the affray and criminal damage matters relate to July 15 2007 when drunk Sloane jumped on a car in Christchurch, threw a punch at the owner and tried to get into a house. Sloane has previous convictions for assault, criminal damage, public order and drink driving. Frank Abbott, mitigating, said Sloane is sorry and remorseful. Sentencing Sloane, Judge Guy Boney QC told him: "You are no stranger to the kind of late night casual street violence, usually fuelled by drink, that is the curse of present day city life." Anger At Killers Sentence (from Bournemouth Echo) __________________ __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. 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04-08-2008, 11:26 PM	#176 (permalink)
bkkandrew Clingin' on... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BKK Posts: 4,002	Fines for over-filling your bin to be greater than shoplifting or D&D!!! Householders who put too much rubbish in their bins face tougher punishments than shoplifters and drunken louts. Environment Secretary Hilary Benn has backed on-the-spot fines of up to £110 for those who overfill their bins, leave them out too early, or put out extra sacks of rubbish alongside them. The price of defying rubbish regulations is £30 higher than the £80 fixed penalty fine given to shoplifters or those involved in drunken disorder in city centres. The confirmation that Labour has been putting pressure on town halls and their bin police comes after three years of rapid growth in the number of fines handed out to residents for 'littering' - the offence committed by those who infringe strict wheelie bin rules. Around 20,000 tickets for breach of rubbish collection rules are thought to have been issued in 2006, the latest year for which figures have been released. Tickets usually demand fines of £100 or £110. Legislation covering on-the-spot fines for bin offences says they should be at least £75, but lays down no upper limit. The Government has always insisted that the upper levels of bin fines were a matter for local councils to decide, but yesterday the Environment Department confirmed that ' enforcement' guidance laid down for councils from Whitehall has set the £110 level. A spokesman for Defra said: 'The guidance is not new. It sets fines at between £75 and £110.' Now families who overfill bins could get a £110 fine... compared to just £80 for drunken yobs and shoplifters \| Mail Online

11-07-2008, 10:56 AM	#163 (permalink)
bkkandrew Clingin' on... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BKK Posts: 4,002	Suprised no-one has posted the Littlejohn article today about The Isle of White Council advetising for Air Traffic Controllers using application forms in Braile. Then again, this thread is now a private spat between Ant & Gent. A bit like Ant & Dec, but without the humour...

11-07-2008, 11:42 AM	#165 (permalink)
bkkandrew Clingin' on... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: BKK Posts: 4,002	^Guess it just seems more due to the tedium. As you were then...

21-07-2008, 02:43 PM	#170 (permalink)
darksider Ban Chang Last Online: 07-08-2008 01:38 AM Join Date: May 2008 Location: UK, Soon Rayong Posts: 182	That typifies the malaise we are suffering from, the rights of the scrote outweigh everything else.

25-07-2008, 05:18 PM	#172 (permalink)
Sir Burr Rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb Last Online: Today 12:59 PM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Phuket. Posts: 4,981	The Nanny State gone mad. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/7524526.stm

26-07-2008, 05:38 PM	#173 (permalink)
Begbie Senior Member Last Online: Yesterday 09:41 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Lagrangian Point Posts: 5,526	Smokers should be put in the stocks. It would save them 30 quid.

29-07-2008, 10:51 PM	#175 (permalink)
mad_dog Elite Member Last Online: Today 02:59 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 4,465	New Labour have produced an almost totalitarian Big brother Nanny state. Libertarianism is the only way yeah!

05-08-2008, 01:07 AM	#177 (permalink)
paulsmithson Nakhon Sawan Last Online: Today 12:22 PM Join Date: May 2007 Location: Samut Songkram Posts: 313	\Country has gone to the dogs, Invaded without a single shot being fired.Drestined to become a Dimmi state to the mudslimes in the very near future. Thank god I am out of it and living here where we have PAD and people who love their country! The land of the free is no longer the USA nor the Uk nor anywhere in Europe---it is here where the people have the right to protest and a good king and total loyalty to their country . FFS I live here on a visa issued for 12 months and subject to legal and finacial checks. How I wish the Uk did the same.