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Old 08-06-2008, 12:52 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Its about time to start shooting all the council workers!
Stop paying the council tax too.
People pay council tax? I never did, then again I was a social-welfare-scrounging immigrant soap-dodger until I became a high-paid consultant, then I became a social-welfare-scrounging immigrant tax-dodger.
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:04 PM   #102 (permalink)
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New labour was new communism and the council tax just pays the pension of the council workers and officers

Organise stopping paying the council tax and the whole system will collapse
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Old 12-06-2008, 11:36 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Britain spent $100 on national day


A BRITISH minister has admitted that the Government spent just £230 promoting England's national day over the last five years.

Culture Minister Margaret Hodge confessed her department spent £116 on promoting Saint George's Day this year, £114 in 2007 - and absolutely nothing in the previous three years.


The admission provoked outrage from at least one patriotic member of parliament.


"I think it is a shameful indictment and it needs to be changed,'' said deputy Andrew Rosindell, who is chairman of parliament's all-party Saint George's Day Group.


"We must be the only country in the world that spends nothing or virtually nothing on celebrating its national day. It is a great pity.


"I was expecting it to be low but not that low. Other countries in the world such as Australia and the United States spend a lot of time and effort in promoting their national days and we should be doing more.


"There needs to be a change in the culture of government in the way it approaches something like this.''


Saint George's Day, which falls on April 23, is an annual non-event in England.


It is generally punctuated by English breweries trying to cash in and promote a party atmosphere; left-wingers saying that patriotism should be reclaimed from the racists; a variety of English eccentrics; and everyday folk wondering why the English just don't seem to bother.


The fact that Saint George's Day is not a public holiday only adds to the general lack of interest.
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Gassed and arrested for laughing at home

A man ended up being arrested and charged - after laughing too much at BBC TV's Have I Got News For You.
Chris Cocker, 36, from Blackburn, was chuckling so vigorously at a comment by comedy panellist Paul Merton that he fell off the sofa.
A concerned neighbour in the flat below heard the thud and called the police.
But when he refused to co-operate, Cocker was arrested. He admitted in court to resisting a police officer and was given a conditional discharge.
A charge of assaulting a police officer was withdrawn when Cocker appeared before magistrates in Blackburn, Lancashire.

Mr Cocker said: "I fell off the settee in hysterics and hit the floor and got myself up and started carrying on watching the telly and the next thing I know there was a knock on the door.
"The bit where I lost it the most was when I shut the door and the policeman had stuck his foot in the doorway and was refusing to let me shut my own front door."
After being sprayed with pepper spray, Mr Cocker was put into a police van and taken to a police station where he said he was stripped naked and spent a night in the cells.
A spokesman for Lancashire Police said officers used a pepper spray as "reasonable force" for their own protection after they feared for their safety when he became aggressive.
Have I Got News For You, currently in its 35th series, has been running on the BBC for almost 20 years and involves celebrity guests answering questions and cracking jokes about current affairs.

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Old 13-06-2008, 04:00 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Old 13-06-2008, 05:57 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Well, the best that you can say about that is that the programme has net another joke for it's audience.

Lucky for the bloke that he wasn't a Brazilian electrician!
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This is what is wrong with Britain, this guy should be given a medal but no, this is his reward for giving the sort of assistance, any concerned person shop should do


One-legged war veteran saves mother and baby from thugs ... only to be arrested for carrying a truncheon | Mail Online


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Last updated at 2:41 PM on 13th June 2008 Stephen Beerling was arrested and held for 12 hours after coming to the aid of a mother and baby in distress

A one-legged Royal Navy veteran has been arrested after he rescued his neighbour from two men.
Stephen Beerling, 52, dialled 999 and went to help his female neighbour after hearing her screaming during the night.
But the have-a-go hero was then arrested himself when officers spotted a rusty truncheon he had put in his pocket for self-defence.
Mr Beerling, a Liberal Democrat councillor, was arrested, locked up for 12 hours and charged with possessing an offensive weapon.
He told of his ordeal after learning the Crown Prosecution Service had decided to drop the charge against him.
Mr Beerling, of Maidstone, Kent, said: 'I am relieved, but very disappointed that it even came to this.
'I don't blame the police but maybe they should have used their noggin. Perhaps they were a little inexperienced.
'For me the blame lies entirely with the CPS - I just cannot understand why they wanted to press charges.'
Mr Beerling said the drama began at 2.30am on March 19 when he was woken by screams from his next door neighbour and her baby, and the sound of men shouting.
He called police and strapped on the false leg he has worn since his leg was amputated in March 2004, when he was still serving with the Royal Navy.
Aware he was probably outnumbered, he picked up a telescopic truncheon and put it in his back pocket in case he needed it for protection.

Mr Beerling then raced downstairs and went outside to help, and said his neighbour was being harassed by two men.
He tried to calm the men down while he waited for police, who later arrested both men and charged them with affray.
But when officers spotted the truncheon in his back pocket he was also arrested, taken to Maidstone police station, kept in the cells overnight and charged with possessing an offensive weapon.
His case was due at Maidstone Crown Court this week but on Wednesday the CPS decided to drop the charge.
The former sailor said: 'I could not believe what was happening. When they tried to open the truncheon, it was all rusted up. I've had it for years and it's just been sitting in a drawer.
'It could be classed as an offensive weapon if it was taken out into public and used with intent. I hadn't even taken it out of my pocket.
'But despite everything that's happened I wouldn't think twice about stepping in to help people again. I could not have stood by and let it go.
'I believe the most important thing for right-thinking people to do is to stand up to criminals who blight our society. It is the only thing we can do.'
In a joint statement, Kent Police and Senior Crown Prosecutor Janet Garnon-Williams said: 'Police officers lawfully arrested Mr Beerling for possessing an offensive weapon.
'However, a decision has now been taken jointly between CPS and police to discontinue the case, as there is not a realistic prospect of conviction.'
A police spokeswoman said the two men arrested with Mr Beerling were charged with affray, but the charges were later dropped.

One of the men was also charged with possession of cannabis and was given a £100 fine by Maidstone magistrates.
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I stopped 4 youths vandalising some property belonging to a road contruction firm. In doing so I physically had to restrain one youth and escort him off of the contractors property. Within one hour I was arrested and locked up due to the youth reporting me for assault. I was detained for about 4 hours before the police decide that the youth was lying. Was he charged with any offence ? No. This for me was the deciding factor in getting out of that shit hole.
I understand what the guy went through. I blame the police for not using their better judgement.
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FIFTY police swoop on boy, 12, for taking £10 note hanging out of a cash machine


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14th June 2008 More than 50 police officers swarmed on a 12-year-old boy accused of stealing a £10 note which was hanging out of a cashpoint.

The army of officers was called after a row broke out when a woman, 27, accused Pascoe Petgrave of stealing the tenner from an HSBC bank machine in Thornton Heath, south London.

Pascoe Petgrave, 12, is seen in the background, being arrested by several police officers in Thornton Heath, south London
Pascoe, who stands at just 4ft 7in, said he had been given his mum's bank card to withdraw money when he spotted the note - but the woman who had been nearby claimed it belonged to her.

Pascoe's cousins - two women aged 21 and 28 - stepped in to stand up for him and a large crowd gathered before the trio were arrested on suspicion of theft.

The boy's mother Maxine, a 38-year-old nurse, who was called to the scene by the cousins, then watched in astonishment as her son was handcuffed and taken into police custody. All three cousins have since been bailed while enquiries continue.
Maxine Petgrave at home with Pascoe

Mrs Petgrave said yesterday: 'He's never been in any trouble before. This was a horrific ordeal for my 12-year-old boy, he was handcuffed and put into a headlock.

'When my house was burgled a year ago I wish they had sent just one of those officers. How did a row over a £10 note hanging out of an ATM machine get to that point?'

A Croydon police spokesman confirmed they were investigating an allegation of theft of £10.

When asked why 50 officers had been present, she added: 'Police attended the scene and during the course of investigating the matter, a large crowd had gathered.

Elements of this crowd were hostile to police activity which resulted in a call for further assistance being made. That was answered by other colleagues, who subsequently attended.'
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Probably a race to see who could get the tenner first.

I think that some of the London coppers watch The Bill too frequently.
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Makes me laugh when people talk about the plod as people to be respected.
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This is what is wrong with Britain, this guy should be given a medal but no, this is his reward for giving the sort of assistance, any concerned person shop should do
It's absolutely disgusting, thanks for reminding me why I left and why I won't be going back.
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Old 16-06-2008, 09:04 AM   #114 (permalink)
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we live on the south coast in gosport, not exactly the crime capital of the world and pretty much everyone owns there homes and works.

2 nights ago i popped to the shop to find a gang of 100 maybe more kids beating the hell out of each other and any cars and shops they could find.
that is the problem with the uk, parents dont give 2 shits as long as there kids are out of sight. so every one else has to put up with em. parents are the problem.
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You're correct. The government can't be everywhere (in every home) nor should it be.
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As long as kids cant be seen or heard they dont care. my neighbours kid in my old flat got brought home by the cops for shopliffting or something, 2 hours later he was off out again adn i saw his mum who was telling me how bad the cops were and how embarrasing it was having them bring him home, so we could all see.
Simple dont let the little bastard go out robbing!!
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Makes me laugh when people talk about the plod as people to be respected.
In Thailand the local police are highly respected by Thais. Sometimes known as being shit scared of them.
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The government can't be everywhere (in every home) nor should it be
They've managed to photograph every house in the UK looking for conservatories & extentions they haven't been told about, so they can raise the council tax.
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