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Old 27-03-2008, 03:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Jet Gordon is one of those hypocrite conservative, full of hot airs and no substance, she is funny though
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Old 27-03-2008, 03:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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The use of slurs don't really bother me. Just words. What is bothersome particularly in the political issues area is when people base their entire argument (for or against) on the race, sex, or age of an individual rather than their stance on the substantiative issues that matter.
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Old 27-03-2008, 03:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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try and stay on topic dearie. this is about racist posts in issues.

it's about posts like these...

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eenie meenie miney mo, catch a xxxxx by the toe. 55555555
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Just calling a spade a spade
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Ham hocks, chitlins and corn bread for state dinners?
and there are countless others.

care to explain yourself?
That's very low,missed reading those.I make jokes about Aussies and Kiwis because people know it's not malicious but racial slurs are unforgivable.

Jet I thought you had more intelligence and class than that and anyone else as well here who sees fit to use derogatory racist comments.Totally unacceptable behaviour,gutter level.
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Old 27-03-2008, 04:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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an issues mod compared the african american wife of presidential candidate barack obama to a monkey.
It wasn't me who said that.

But you need to go back and read the other posts.

I even stated that GWB looks like a monkey. Does that make me racist?
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Old 27-03-2008, 04:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Old 27-03-2008, 04:26 PM   #26 (permalink)
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an issues mod compared the african american wife of presidential candidate barack obama to a monkey.
It wasn't me who said that.

But you need to go back and read the other posts.

I even stated that GWB looks like a monkey. Does that make me racist?

Zactly. One is acceptable. One is not. Why is that?
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Old 27-03-2008, 04:27 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Chintee an issues mod? Well I'll be damned.
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Old 27-03-2008, 05:00 PM   #28 (permalink)
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There are some racist bastards on here that seem to always find something racist in almost every post to comment on, and think that removes them from ever being considered as the racist asshole that they really are.

IMHO.
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Old 27-03-2008, 05:53 PM   #29 (permalink)
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she looks exactly like a big monkey
My Asian students say some Asian students in class look like a monkey. I think George W. Bush looks like a monkey. (smirkingchimp.com).

And now that I look at it more, Michelle Obama does sort of look like a monkey.

So what?
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Old 27-03-2008, 05:55 PM   #30 (permalink)
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never mind.
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Old 27-03-2008, 06:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think some people post racist comments in an ironic kind of way when in reality they are not racist, IMO not a very good idea to post things like that on a forum as words are easily misinterpreted. There are also those people that are just down and out racists however.
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Old 27-03-2008, 06:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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she looks exactly like a big monkey
Ray is so rapid in his desire to discredit posters he doesn't like that he didn't take notice of the fact that I have endorsed Obama for President and specifically said his wife looked like that not based on her color, but features - not exactly the actions of a racist you clown.
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And now that I look at it more, Michelle Obama does sort of look like a monkey. So what?
It fits with the notion that the black "race" is less intelligent which some folks like to bring up when discussing Obama, and has further connotations calling Bush a monkey doesn't evoke, such as the African jungle (why don't 'they' go back there), and blacks being a different line of humans which developed directly from apes.

That's "so what".

But I suspect you knew this already, or do you really need a German to explain the imagery of racism in the States?
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And now that I look at it more, Michelle Obama does sort of look like a monkey. So what?
It fits with the notion that the black "race" is less intelligent which some folks like to bring up when discussing Obama....
Maybe it fits the notion with you Stroll, but it doesn't fit the notion with me.
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Old 27-03-2008, 07:03 PM   #35 (permalink)
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It very much depends on who says it and how, whether such references are intended or not. A seemingly innocuous remark about someone's physical features can be deeply offensive, either intentionally or perceived to be by the reader. Not saying Chinthee implied anything of the sort, in fact I am sure he didn't.

Just answering the question about the difference in comparing Bush and Michelle to a monkey. Is there any doubt that either is offensive?
Or is it just stating a 'fact', or maybe even making a valuable contribution to a political discussion?
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Old 27-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #36 (permalink)
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^Yes, Stroller is right that not knowing the speaker's background or the context, when comparing people to monkeys, with regard to blacks, there is an underlying racist connotation that can be errantly read into the speaker's comments. I think on this board Butterfly refers to Thais as monkeys and refers to the Thai language as "speaking monkey." That is certainly not flattering, and I suppose you could argue there is a racist connotation to that too.

Bush as a white man monkey doesn't evoke the same imagery.

At the same time, the OP's kneejerk over the top one-color simplistic paintbrush he uses to indict all the members he accuses of being racist is nonsense as usual. I don't think for a minute that someone like Jet Gorgon is a racist, and has even mentioned she almost married a black. Sure, there are racists on this board, and sensible intelligent members can probably spot and discern them easily.
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Old 27-03-2008, 08:10 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 27-03-2008, 08:16 PM   #38 (permalink)
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My Asian students say some Asian students in class look like a monkey. I think George W. Bush looks like a monkey. (smirkingchimp.com).

And now that I look at it more, Michelle Obama does sort of look like a monkey.
Well, they haven't been out of the trees as long as we have so it's natural she looks like a monkey, eh?

...how's that for a so-called 'racist' comment!
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I think on this board Butterfly refers to Thais as monkeys and refers to the Thai language as "speaking monkey."
it is a type of racism and discrimination, even though I do it to characterize their "cultural" difference which I find annoying some time. I don't see Thai as "inherently" inferior or sub-human though, just "socially" silly, and their behavior make me think of cute monkeys, hence me calling them that way. Apparently I am not the only one, and I have seen many Thais calling other Thais monkeys, in the same spirit, really harmless at the end. However, I would never call a blackman monkey for obvious reasons, as their physical appearance would be the reason for calling it that way and it would be pure racism and discrimination, regardless how they would act.

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and has even mentioned she almost married a black
She is damaged good for sure then
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