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sabang · 01-03-2008, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

The hunter/gatherer

Hunting for food ain't a problem BG. Neither culling of pests, target shooting & justified self defence. I just don't get sport hunting- I'd prefer to shoot 'em with a lens.

Norton · 01-03-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by sabang

Hunting for food ain't a problem BG. Neither culling of pests, target shooting & justified self defence. I just don't get sport hunting- I'd prefer to shoot 'em with a lens.

I was raised in almost an identical situation to BG's. All our meat was what we could hunt or fish off the land. All was done simply because there was really no affordable option. However, I agree with you. Sport hunting is unnecessary unless really for the purpose of culling over stocks to prevent the critters from starving to death because there are insufficient resources to support population. I worked as a guide for several summers at hunting lodges and I believe even BG would agree, the majority of rich "southerners" who came were absolute wankers with no respect for wildlife. Better to give them a camera!

blackgang · 01-03-2008, 12:48 PM

We would butcher an old cow, grandpa would take an old cow that wasn't to good anymore, put her in a box stall with a tub for water that I had to keep full, a feed trough with heavy salted grain in it and it was kept so she could eat all the grain she wanted along with a little hay and the salt made her drink lots of water, after a couple months on that diet and no real exercise that old bitch was close to KOBE beef off of a hereford cow old enough to vote.
But we also had a stream running by the barn yard and was full of nice trout and grand ma liked to fish so she would catch some nice trouts, we hunted deer or shot deer that fed in the meadow for fresh meat also, we were miles up in the hills so there was no electricity up there til in the 60s or 70s so you had to maintain your own meat, a whole animal with some cut off for a meal and cared for properly will last a long time before going bad, where cut meat from town is old before they sell it due to aging so it will spoil in a few days and you just can not keep that kind of meat.
And no, it an asshole comes from town and wants to hunt a set of horns then he was ran down the road and if he happen to hold a doe tag, which we had a hundred does to a buck, grandpa would take him out and fill his tag for him and load his deer and send him off..We were meat hunters and if you shot it, you ate it.
My sons wanted a 22 rifle and we were living in Nevada and I was living in a rental house on the Fleur Di Lei [sp] ranch at Beatty and working at Nevada Test site, and there were jack rabbits eating up everything and just pests and everyone used to run over em or shoot em, well I got the boys a gun and we went up to the Burro trap by a spring, we used to trap them and butcher them out there as they taste like deer, and were hundreds of em, so anyway the boys shot a jack rabbit and thru it in the back of the pickup, I asked what for? they said they shot it and so they would eat it, and its liver was clear so no rabbit disease, I let em skin it and their mom cooked it well and they did eat it., no more of that shit tho as no body cept a coyote will eat a jack rabbit..
I have killed about every meat animal in the USA and have never wasted a a bit of it, I do not only hunt during season either, if we are living out without refridgeration and electricity I will kill meat anytime I need it, as I have already explained why you can not buy cut meat in a shop, it takes some doing to protect the meat til it is gone, wrapping it during the day in heavy blankets, and hanging it out in the cool of the night and bringing it back in at daylight next day, but it is a hell of a lot easier than a hour trip to town for 1 meals meat and better meat anyway.
When you see 200 does and maybe 1 buck, it is time to deviate from a collage educated game managers ways and go back to doing what is correct,, All does and no bucks only means you have does eating up the feed and no new deers.

Norton · 01-03-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

And no, it an asshole comes from town and wants to hunt a set of horns then he was ran down the road and if he happen to hold a doe tag, which we had a hundred does to a buck, grandpa would take him out and fill his tag for him and load his deer and send him off

Now your really reminding me of my youth. Exactly the same crap.

chinthee · 01-03-2008, 01:49 PM

Shit...our yearly deer hunting trips seem tame by comparison, even though we were true Rocky Mountain people and not fukin California tourists.

Marmite the Dog · 02-03-2008, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chinthee

our yearly deer hunting trips seem tame by comparison, even though we were true Rocky Mountain people and not fukin California tourists.

You 'True Rocky Mountain' types must've bagged and smoked/salted a lot of deer if you only needed to go hunting once a year.

AntRobertson · 02-03-2008, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

We would butcher an old cow, grandpa would take an old cow that wasn't to good anymore, put her in a box stall with a tub for water that I had to keep full, a feed trough with heavy salted grain in it and it was kept so she could eat all the grain she wanted along with a little hay and the salt made her drink lots of water, after a couple months on that diet and no real exercise that old bitch was close to KOBE beef off of a hereford cow old enough to vote.
But we also had a stream running by the barn yard and was full of nice trout and grand ma liked to fish so she would catch some nice trouts, we hunted deer or shot deer that fed in the meadow for fresh meat also, we were miles up in the hills so there was no electricity up there til in the 60s or 70s so you had to maintain your own meat, a whole animal with some cut off for a meal and cared for properly will last a long time before going bad, where cut meat from town is old before they sell it due to aging so it will spoil in a few days and you just can not keep that kind of meat.
And no, it an asshole comes from town and wants to hunt a set of horns then he was ran down the road and if he happen to hold a doe tag, which we had a hundred does to a buck, grandpa would take him out and fill his tag for him and load his deer and send him off..We were meat hunters and if you shot it, you ate it.
My sons wanted a 22 rifle and we were living in Nevada and I was living in a rental house on the Fleur Di Lei [sp] ranch at Beatty and working at Nevada Test site, and there were jack rabbits eating up everything and just pests and everyone used to run over em or shoot em, well I got the boys a gun and we went up to the Burro trap by a spring, we used to trap them and butcher them out there as they taste like deer, and were hundreds of em, so anyway the boys shot a jack rabbit and thru it in the back of the pickup, I asked what for? they said they shot it and so they would eat it, and its liver was clear so no rabbit disease, I let em skin it and their mom cooked it well and they did eat it., no more of that shit tho as no body cept a coyote will eat a jack rabbit..
I have killed about every meat animal in the USA and have never wasted a a bit of it, I do not only hunt during season either, if we are living out without refridgeration and electricity I will kill meat anytime I need it, as I have already explained why you can not buy cut meat in a shop, it takes some doing to protect the meat til it is gone, wrapping it during the day in heavy blankets, and hanging it out in the cool of the night and bringing it back in at daylight next day, but it is a hell of a lot easier than a hour trip to town for 1 meals meat and better meat anyway.
When you see 200 does and maybe 1 buck, it is time to deviate from a collage educated game managers ways and go back to doing what is correct,, All does and no bucks only means you have does eating up the feed and no new deers.

...

Is that the distinct twang of a banjo I'm hearing?

blackgang · 02-03-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

You 'True Rocky Mountain' types must've bagged and smoked/salted a lot of deer if you only needed to go hunting once a year.

Berore I was born, you could hunt for food with no season or license, but a few years prior they made a season and game protection, but if you needed the meat out on the ranch or homestead the game warden, who was an Oregon state po;iceman would not give you any shit, and most people still do eat deer when they want out on the ranches.
But the city guys only have a ferw weeks vacation and a lot do go off and camp int mountains and get together and play poker, drink and hunt, hell of a time, but what you kill the city guys mostly take to a custom meat processor and have venison salami and other sausages made, the meat aged, cut wrapped and frozen for his freezer, we that live out just gut it, skin it, hang it and keep fresh as long as possible, jerk a lot of it, Deer Jerky is my favorite snack, if no electricity then some will go into canning jars for later use, none is wasted.
I was gonna scan off a couple pics of my last cabin to show you whats like, but my scanner shit the bed, says it cant be found, then said it cant be config cause it running, no light on it so I think the transformer quit, but if it cant find it, how the fuk it know it running??

Boon Mee · 02-03-2008, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Is that the distinct twang of a banjo I'm hearing?

Perhaps in your case, the bleating of sheep?

AntRobertson · 02-03-2008, 07:09 PM

^Nope, definately banjo. I don't know about you good 'ole boys but the two sounds are very easy to distinguish.

Marmite the Dog · 02-03-2008, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by blackgang

I was gonna scan off a couple pics of my last cabin to show you whats like, but my scanner shit the bed, says it cant be found, then said it cant be config cause it running, no light on it so I think the transformer quit, but if it cant find it, how the fuk it know it running??

Do you plug your camera into the PC? If so (especially with Canon cameras) plug it back in and turn it on and off then unplug it and plug the scanner back in. It might work.

blackgang · 02-03-2008, 08:48 PM

No, these are prints taken with my old Canon AE1, taken in the early 90s and in a album, my scanner is a flatbed I bought when I got my first puter from Computerland in CM and it finally shit the bed I think, at least the transformer box is cold when I toot it out and no lights in the scanner.
My cabin was built like a refrigerator cabinet,,in to out was 7/16 sheetrock, 4"fiberglass blanket ins.,6"Douglas fir 6X8 squared timbers, 1 1/2 aluminum covered rigid foam TOVEX and then 3/4 cedar shiplap siding , triple pane windows with vinyl framing, 12" insulating rigid foam in the roof,ceiling.
-40* F and you could keep it warm with a cigarette lighter.

Marmite the Dog · 02-03-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Do you plug your camera into the PC?

I meant a recent camera, not the one you took the photos with. Canon cameras and scanners use the same Windows function and unless they are disconnected in the right sequence can cause problems with reading other pieces of equipment.

blackgang · 02-03-2008, 09:02 PM

OH, OK I misunderstand ya,
Yea I got a fuji dig. A nd the scanner is a MicrotekI will check it out,, thanks dude.
But still when I hit the on switch in back of the scanner it should light up tho shouldnt it? it dont do nothing..

Marmite the Dog · 02-03-2008, 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackgang

But still when I hit the on switch in back of the scanner it should light up tho shouldnt it? it dont do nothing..

Probably.

It may well be fucked if that's the case.

tom · 05-03-2008, 10:33 AM

The anti gunners got Bush elected president in 00. The U.S.A. would not be in the mess its in now if that had not happend. How this issue gets handeled this time around will be interesting. Not even the most liberal Dems are talking gun control. And there has been a lot of nutter gun rampages lately.

AntRobertson · 05-03-2008, 10:56 AM

How many more incidents like this before something's done?

Quote:

Six dead, three hurt in US shooting: CNN

5:03PM Tuesday March 04, 2008

Firefighters found six bodies and three wounded children at the scene. Photo / Reuters

LOS ANGELES - Six people, including two children, have been killed and three other children wounded in a shooting in Memphis, Tennessee, US authorities have told CNN.

A fire department official told CNN that a unit had responded to an emergency call from a home tonight.

Firefighters found six bodies and the three wounded children at the scene, the official said.

The wounded were a seven-year-old boy, a 10-month-old girl and a 4-year-old whose gender was not immediately known, CNN said.

All three had suffered gunshot wounds and had been rushed to hospital, the report said.

The local Commercial Appeal newspaper said there was no motive at this stage.
"We just don't know the motive or cause of death, but we do have four adults and two children (dead)," Memphis police Lt Jerry Guin told the paper.
"I've been on a scene where there were one or two or three (victims), but I don't remember anything this large."
- AAP

tom · 05-03-2008, 12:08 PM

^ Before what can be done?

AntRobertson · 05-03-2008, 12:17 PM

^Something. Anything.

blackgang · 05-03-2008, 12:40 PM

I don't know, but Thailand has some strict gun control laws, farang can not get a gun permit and a lot of Thai can't either and you do have to have a permit to be legal and it seems like they have trouble with people getting shot, even with heavy control,,

Quote:

Songkhla - Three men and three women were killed and two other were injured when an angry neighbour opened fire at them while they were drinking and singing late Saturday night, police said.

The shooting took place at about midnight at a small pavilion inside the house of the victims in Songkhla's Hat Yai district.

Five of them died at the scene after being shot at their neck or head. Another died at the Raj Yindee Hospital.

The Nation
nationmultimedia.com

Maybe some Pro Bono here for a good kiwi lawyer to force compliance of the existing laws..

IMHO

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01-03-2008, 12:48 PM	#163 (permalink)
blackgang I am in Jail Last Online: 25-10-2009 08:00 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 13,218	We would butcher an old cow, grandpa would take an old cow that wasn't to good anymore, put her in a box stall with a tub for water that I had to keep full, a feed trough with heavy salted grain in it and it was kept so she could eat all the grain she wanted along with a little hay and the salt made her drink lots of water, after a couple months on that diet and no real exercise that old bitch was close to KOBE beef off of a hereford cow old enough to vote. But we also had a stream running by the barn yard and was full of nice trout and grand ma liked to fish so she would catch some nice trouts, we hunted deer or shot deer that fed in the meadow for fresh meat also, we were miles up in the hills so there was no electricity up there til in the 60s or 70s so you had to maintain your own meat, a whole animal with some cut off for a meal and cared for properly will last a long time before going bad, where cut meat from town is old before they sell it due to aging so it will spoil in a few days and you just can not keep that kind of meat. And no, it an asshole comes from town and wants to hunt a set of horns then he was ran down the road and if he happen to hold a doe tag, which we had a hundred does to a buck, grandpa would take him out and fill his tag for him and load his deer and send him off..We were meat hunters and if you shot it, you ate it. My sons wanted a 22 rifle and we were living in Nevada and I was living in a rental house on the Fleur Di Lei [sp] ranch at Beatty and working at Nevada Test site, and there were jack rabbits eating up everything and just pests and everyone used to run over em or shoot em, well I got the boys a gun and we went up to the Burro trap by a spring, we used to trap them and butcher them out there as they taste like deer, and were hundreds of em, so anyway the boys shot a jack rabbit and thru it in the back of the pickup, I asked what for? they said they shot it and so they would eat it, and its liver was clear so no rabbit disease, I let em skin it and their mom cooked it well and they did eat it., no more of that shit tho as no body cept a coyote will eat a jack rabbit.. I have killed about every meat animal in the USA and have never wasted a a bit of it, I do not only hunt during season either, if we are living out without refridgeration and electricity I will kill meat anytime I need it, as I have already explained why you can not buy cut meat in a shop, it takes some doing to protect the meat til it is gone, wrapping it during the day in heavy blankets, and hanging it out in the cool of the night and bringing it back in at daylight next day, but it is a hell of a lot easier than a hour trip to town for 1 meals meat and better meat anyway. When you see 200 does and maybe 1 buck, it is time to deviate from a collage educated game managers ways and go back to doing what is correct,, All does and no bucks only means you have does eating up the feed and no new deers.

01-03-2008, 01:49 PM	#165 (permalink)
chinthee Sundance is my bff Last Online: 10-08-2009 09:13 PM Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,028	Shit...our yearly deer hunting trips seem tame by comparison, even though we were true Rocky Mountain people and not fukin California tourists.

02-03-2008, 07:09 PM	#170 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 12,587	^Nope, definately banjo. I don't know about you good 'ole boys but the two sounds are very easy to distinguish.

02-03-2008, 08:48 PM	#172 (permalink)
blackgang I am in Jail Last Online: 25-10-2009 08:00 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 13,218	No, these are prints taken with my old Canon AE1, taken in the early 90s and in a album, my scanner is a flatbed I bought when I got my first puter from Computerland in CM and it finally shit the bed I think, at least the transformer box is cold when I toot it out and no lights in the scanner. My cabin was built like a refrigerator cabinet,,in to out was 7/16 sheetrock, 4"fiberglass blanket ins.,6"Douglas fir 6X8 squared timbers, 1 1/2 aluminum covered rigid foam TOVEX and then 3/4 cedar shiplap siding , triple pane windows with vinyl framing, 12" insulating rigid foam in the roof,ceiling. -40* F and you could keep it warm with a cigarette lighter.

02-03-2008, 09:02 PM	#174 (permalink)
blackgang I am in Jail Last Online: 25-10-2009 08:00 PM Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Phetchabun city Posts: 13,218	OH, OK I misunderstand ya, Yea I got a fuji dig. A nd the scanner is a MicrotekI will check it out,, thanks dude. But still when I hit the on switch in back of the scanner it should light up tho shouldnt it? it dont do nothing..

05-03-2008, 10:33 AM	#176 (permalink)
tom Ao Nang Last Online: 01-06-2009 12:42 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 128	The anti gunners got Bush elected president in 00. The U.S.A. would not be in the mess its in now if that had not happend. How this issue gets handeled this time around will be interesting. Not even the most liberal Dems are talking gun control. And there has been a lot of nutter gun rampages lately.

05-03-2008, 12:08 PM	#178 (permalink)
tom Ao Nang Last Online: 01-06-2009 12:42 PM Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 128	^ Before what can be done?

05-03-2008, 12:17 PM	#179 (permalink)
AntRobertson Ich Bin Ein Auslander Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 12,587	^Something. Anything.

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