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AntRobertson · 02-01-2008, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, that's why there's the X & Y chromosomes...

Who needs X & Y chromosones when you have K & Y jelly?

That's actually quite clever/witty all things considered. Smilie detracts from it though.

Still, monkey's and typewriters and all that eh.

stroller · 02-01-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

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Well, that's why there's the X & Y chromosomes...

Who needs X & Y chromosones when you have K & Y jelly?

Excellent!
A Green on the way soon as the software allows!

(maybe this type of humor Tony is talking about?)

Hehe, the K&Y got the boys all excited, almost as good as playing with guns, eh?

Boon Mee · 02-01-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

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Originally Posted by Mr Earl

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Well, that's why there's the X & Y chromosomes...

Who needs X & Y chromosones when you have K & Y jelly?

That's actually quite clever/witty all things considered. Smilie detracts from it though.

Back to the lack of humor again Tony?
Won't post a smilie this time just for you!...heh

AntRobertson · 02-01-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Back to the lack of humor again Tony?

Well it isn't as though you've magically developed a wit all of a sudden is it.

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Won't post a smilie this time just for you!...heh

Nope, still not funny.

Frankenstein · 02-01-2008, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

Charlton Heston & the NRA have small cocks!

I hear it improves the action significantly.

Boon Mee · 03-01-2008, 12:31 AM

^
It's a pump-action actually...

Boon Mee · 03-01-2008, 03:26 AM

For those interested...

Amazon.com: The Founders' View of the Right to Bear Arms - A Definitive History of the Second Amendment: Books: David E. Young

Boon Mee · 08-01-2008, 10:14 PM

Heh - where's Lily for this one:

MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME: Michigan sees fewer gun deaths — with more permits.

Six years after new rules made it much easier to get a license to carry concealed weapons, the number of Michiganders legally packing heat has increased more than six-fold.

But dire predictions about increased violence and bloodshed have largely gone unfulfilled, according to law enforcement officials and, to the extent they can be measured, crime statistics. The incidence of violent crime in Michigan in the six years since the law went into effect has been, on average, below the rate of the previous six years. The overall incidence of death from firearms, including suicide and accidents, also has declined.

More than 155,000 Michiganders -- about one in every 65 -- are now authorized to carry loaded guns as they go about their everyday affairs, according to Michigan State Police."

It's a fact, Jack, it doesn't work to take guns away from the folks.

Michigan sees fewer gun deaths -- with more permits

Marmite the Dog · 08-01-2008, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Boon Mee

It's a fact, Jack, it doesn't work to take guns away from the folks.

So how many people were killed or injured through the abuse of handguns in Michigan?

Boon Mee · 11-01-2008, 03:17 AM

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It's a fact, Jack, it doesn't work to take guns away from the folks.

So how many people were killed or injured through the abuse of handguns in Michigan?

Is not the question we're addressing here but how more guns = less crime w/permits.

stroller · 11-01-2008, 04:14 AM

You have not shown that taking guns away from people doesn't work, but given an example of how regulated issuing to carry has not increased crime-rates. As for the decline of deaths from firearms, you have not provided any figures nor made a plausible argument about cause and effect.
Try again.

It's really extremely simple: someone without a gun can't shoot anyone.

Jet Gorgon · 11-01-2008, 11:43 AM

I think anyone who's been taught how to use a gun correctly and legally, and has common sense and decency, would never aim at a person (well, I might take out an intruder's nuts if he had a knife to my mom's throat). I'd rather die from a bullet than a knife slashing frenzy.

AntRobertson · 11-01-2008, 11:57 AM

Smeg, bless him, posted the following in another thread. he was of course using it to illustrate just how crap Thailand is but I think it's relevant to this thread also:

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NationMaster - Murders with firearms (per capita) (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom) #1 South Africa:0.719782 per 1,000 people
#2 Colombia:0.509801 per 1,000 people
#3 Thailand:0.312093 per 1,000 people
#4 Zimbabwe:0.0491736 per 1,000 people
#5 Mexico:0.0337938 per 1,000 people
#6 Belarus:0.0321359 per 1,000 people
#7 Costa Rica:0.0313745 per 1,000 people
#8 United States:0.0279271 per 1,000 people
#9 Uruguay:0.0245902 per 1,000 people
#10 Lithuania:0.0230748 per 1,000 people
#11 Slovakia:0.021543 per 1,000 people
#12 Czech Republic:0.0207988 per 1,000 people
#13 Estonia:0.0157539 per 1,000 people
#14 Latvia:0.0131004 per 1,000 people
#15 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of:0.0127139 per 1,000 people
#16 Bulgaria:0.00845638 per 1,000 people
#17 Portugal:0.00795003 per 1,000 people
#18 Slovenia:0.00596718 per 1,000 people
#19 Switzerland:0.00534117 per 1,000 people
#20 Canada:0.00502972 per 1,000 people
#21 Germany:0.00465844 per 1,000 people
#22 Moldova:0.00448934 per 1,000 people
#23 Hungary:0.00439692 per 1,000 people
#24 Poland:0.0043052 per 1,000 people
#25 Ukraine:0.00368109 per 1,000 people
#26 Ireland:0.00298805 per 1,000 people
#27 Australia:0.00293678 per 1,000 people
#28 Denmark:0.00257732 per 1,000 people
#29 Spain:0.0024045 per 1,000 people
#30 Azerbaijan:0.00227503 per 1,000 people
#31 New Zealand:0.00173482 per 1,000 people
#32 United Kingdom:0.00102579 per 1,000 people

One thing that's immediately apparent from that list is that the nations with stricter gun controls fall near the bottom.

AntRobertson · 11-01-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I'd rather die from a bullet than a knife slashing frenzy.

End result's the same. Apparently being stabbed isn't as painful as one might think and neither is the pain associated with it (i.e a 'stabbing' pain) correct. I saw a documentary on it once and they interviewed surviours of stabbings and shootings and the stabbing victims said it was more like a dull, blunt, punch than 'stabbing' - can't recall what the gun-shot victims said though.

stroller · 11-01-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I think anyone who's been taught how to use a gun correctly and legally, and has common sense and decency, would never aim at a person

You think, well, that's reassuring.

Anyway, I take it you support stricter gun-control then?

stroller · 11-01-2008, 01:36 PM

Yep, playing with guns is good for boys:

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Between 1994 and 1998, 6,287 children committed suicide with a firearm and an additional 1,896 children were killed by unintentional gun injuries in the United States. All together, 23,776 children under age 19 died from a gun related injury during these years, which is equal to 13 children a day.

Gun Safety Guide

Ivor Biggun · 11-01-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stroller

Yep, playing with guns is good for boys: Quote: Between 1994 and 1998, 6,287 children committed suicide with a firearm and an additional 1,896 children were killed by unintentional gun injuries in the United States. All together, 23,776 children under age 19 died from a gun related injury during these years, which is equal to 13 children a day

Is that to say if children didn't have access to guns there wouldn't have been 6,287 suicides ? If someone wants to kill themself then the method doesn't come into it, they'll kill themselves.

blackgang · 11-01-2008, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

So how many people were killed or injured through the abuse of handguns in Michigan?

Less than there were before the issue of carry permits.

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Originally Posted by Ivor Biggun

Originally Posted by stroller Yep, playing with guns is good for boys: Quote: Between 1994 and 1998, 6,287 children committed suicide with a firearm and an additional 1,896 children were killed by unintentional gun injuries in the United States. All together, 23,776 children under age 19 died from a gun related injury during these years, which is equal to 13 children a day

Well how many children were killed in South Africa with bush knives during the same time?

Jet Gorgon · 12-01-2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AntRobertson

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I'd rather die from a bullet than a knife slashing frenzy.

End result's the same. Apparently being stabbed isn't as painful as one might think and neither is the pain associated with it (i.e a 'stabbing' pain) correct. I saw a documentary on it once and they interviewed surviours of stabbings and shootings and the stabbing victims said it was more like a dull, blunt, punch than 'stabbing' - can't recall what the gun-shot victims said though.

It's the FEAR quotient, Ant. Somebody shoots you, it's a done deal. Somebody pulls a knife out and starts slashing you up, well, go think on that one.

Jet Gorgon · 12-01-2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by stroller

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Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon

I think anyone who's been taught how to use a gun correctly and legally, and has common sense and decency, would never aim at a person

You think, well, that's reassuring.

Anyway, I take it you support stricter gun-control then?

I dunno, Strolls. There are so many laws and controls now in the West, but are people any better for it? Fek, they even have trash police now.
If I grew up in a controlled state and couldn't fire a gun when I was 12, would I be a better person? Dunno. I didn't turn out to be a killer. I still like popping cans off the fencepost with the .22 when I go home.

08-01-2008, 10:14 PM	#108 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 05:21 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,871	Heh - where's Lily for this one: MORE GUNS, LESS CRIME: Michigan sees fewer gun deaths — with more permits. Six years after new rules made it much easier to get a license to carry concealed weapons, the number of Michiganders legally packing heat has increased more than six-fold. But dire predictions about increased violence and bloodshed have largely gone unfulfilled, according to law enforcement officials and, to the extent they can be measured, crime statistics. The incidence of violent crime in Michigan in the six years since the law went into effect has been, on average, below the rate of the previous six years. The overall incidence of death from firearms, including suicide and accidents, also has declined. More than 155,000 Michiganders -- about one in every 65 -- are now authorized to carry loaded guns as they go about their everyday affairs, according to Michigan State Police." It's a fact, Jack, it doesn't work to take guns away from the folks. Michigan sees fewer gun deaths -- with more permits __________________ ผมเป็นคนบ้านนอก

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03-01-2008, 12:31 AM	#106 (permalink)
Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 05:21 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,871	^ It's a pump-action actually...

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Boon Mee Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 05:21 PM Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 12,871	For those interested... Amazon.com: The Founders' View of the Right to Bear Arms - A Definitive History of the Second Amendment: Books: David E. Young

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stroller Kraut Last Online: 09-09-2009 07:24 PM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,185	You have not shown that taking guns away from people doesn't work, but given an example of how regulated issuing to carry has not increased crime-rates. As for the decline of deaths from firearms, you have not provided any figures nor made a plausible argument about cause and effect. Try again. It's really extremely simple: someone without a gun can't shoot anyone.

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Jet Gorgon Jihad Barbie Last Online: Yesterday 11:18 PM Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Libbies Posts: 12,428	I think anyone who's been taught how to use a gun correctly and legally, and has common sense and decency, would never aim at a person (well, I might take out an intruder's nuts if he had a knife to my mom's throat). I'd rather die from a bullet than a knife slashing frenzy.

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