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Old 30-12-2007, 02:03 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^But did you know that only about 1% of people carrying illegal firearms are ever caught.
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:31 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept.
You sound like a real control freak, up to you what I can have in my home


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Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons?
Now you sound like an idiot..


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How an ambiguous bit of text from the 1700's relates to the modern world is beyond me.
But since it is in the US constitution it is none of your business anyway and there is no need for you to go there either.


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If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes.
If you do not like to live in a free country where you are free to have in your home what you wish to have then go to countrys where you have few personal freedoms and you feel safer, kinda like Thailand where it is the cops who decide who has a gun in his house and who don't, do you feel safer now??


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Milkman's point is so good it's worth repeating: Quote: The only people that would stop owning/carrying them IMO, would be law-abiding citizens, giving the criminals a lot more power.
As long as guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Just like in mexico where cars are stopped on the roads at night and the people shot and robbed because the bad guys know who got guns and who don't.


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Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.
Boy that would sure stop the terrorist shit wouldn't it,, coarse most of the terror is done not with sporting weapons but with 50 KG powder packs and rockets.. But you keep making noises likle that and someone will cover you up.
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:32 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Fek, you guys just made me want to go back to the farm to load up and shoot. Dam right I have a right to own a gun and shoot it, too. Somebody comes on the folks' farm property, takes the RCMP a couple hours to respond. Shoot the marauders if they come busting into your home. End of fekin story. Read "In Cold Blood".
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:34 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I can see how that would be the case where you have to distinguish between legal andf illegal, but where there are no legal arms even the LAPD should be able to figure out that the people carrying arms must be carrying them illegally. Either that or the cops could just round up all the black people on a regular basis and search them. I mean, they aren't going to round up white people....
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:35 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.
While you are thinking along those lines,, why not just arrest everyone that has a gun and is not licensed to have one??
maybe if the laws were supported that there are on the books, there would be no illegal gun owners or users.
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Either that or the cops could just round up all the black people on a regular basis and search them. I mean, they aren't going to round up white people....
Now you are getting really stupid as well as racist,,
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:39 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Chicago has a ban on firearms. If you do executive protection, armed security, a PI or a policemen, then you could get a license. I was able to get around the law and I always carried a gun in the states. Here I can't. However, I feel safer here than in Chicago. That may eventually be my demise....
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Old 30-12-2007, 02:52 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept.
You sound like a real control freak, up to you what I can have in my home
Really? Does America not control vehicle exhaust omissions? Are there not controls over what you may or may not burn in your yard for fear of polluting the atmosphere? Are there not controls over what you may erect on your land for fear that it may not look pretty?

You are happy with not being allowed to smoke up Arkansas, or not making the neighbourhood unsightly, but you want to give psychopaths the right to own a gun.

Seens logical until it is your kid that gets shot for a laugh.


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Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons?
Now you sound like an idiot..
You sound like one of these guys who wants the right to get a gun out whenever he is losing an argument.

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If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes.
If you do not like to live in a free country where you are free to have in your home what you wish to have then go to countrys where you have few personal freedoms and you feel safer, kinda like Thailand where it is the cops who decide who has a gun in his house and who don't, do you feel safer now??
Yes. I come from the UK where the suggestions I have made are in place and the country is a much safer place to live. The regular cops don't need to carry guns and the per capita murder rate is 10% of America's.


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Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.
Boy that would sure stop the terrorist shit wouldn't it,, coarse most of the terror is done not with sporting weapons but with 50 KG powder packs and rockets.. But you keep making noises likle that and someone will cover you up.
Who is talking terror? I am referring to everyday murder, most of which is committed by people who know each other and with small arms, not with powder kegs and rockets, but in a country where any nutter is allowed to own an RPG I can see how nobody would consider it unusual for the neighbours to own the odd rocket or two.

As far as terrorism is concerned I fail to see how having the right to bear arms would have prevented 9/11.

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You are happy with not being allowed to smoke up Arkansas, or not making the neighbourhood unsightly, but you want to give psychopaths the right to own a gun.
Good point. Best uptil now.
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As long as guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. Just like in mexico where cars are stopped on the roads at night and the people shot and robbed because the bad guys know who got guns and who don't.
Where do the outlaws get the guns?

They steal them from the houses of lawful gun owners. No guns to steal, no guns on the street.


I can understand why America has these crazy gun laws. They defeated the Brits and a lot of their soldiers were local militia with their own guns. Very relevant to the time the laws were made, can't see anyone needing to own a assault rifle in this day and age. Military weapons are designed to kill people why let the civvies own them?
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Any Canadian can answer this one.... the USA.
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They steal them from the houses of lawful gun owners. No guns to steal, no guns on the street.
If illegal immigrants and drugs can be got into a country easily, then I'm sure guns are no problem.
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How an ambiguous bit of text from the 1700's relates to the modern world is beyond me.
But since it is in the US constitution it is none of your business anyway and there is no need for you to go there either.
Righto then, I expect that's the last we'll be hearing comments from you on any issue anywhere in the world other than the US then. Nice one.
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However, I feel safer here than in Chicago. That may eventually be my demise....
Sure, when the Jihadist Muzzies will cut your throat yelling "Allah o Akbar" - could be anytime now, they're about to take over the world and Thai Muslim rebels operate throughout the country to kill off all infidels.
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I see no need for ordinary civilians to own guns unless they belong to properly controlled clubs where the guns are kept.
You sound like a real control freak, up to you what I can have in my home
Really? Does America not control vehicle exhaust omissions? Are there not controls over what you may or may not burn in your yard for fear of polluting the atmosphere? Are there not controls over what you may erect on your land for fear that it may not look pretty?

You are happy with not being allowed to smoke up Arkansas, or not making the neighbourhood unsightly, but you want to give psychopaths the right to own a gun.

Seens logical until it is your kid that gets shot for a laugh.

You are sounding stupid again, Psycopaths are not allowed to own a gun in the USA, There are all number of reasons that prevent people from legally owning guns,


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Does the right to bear arms extend to nuclear weapons?
Now you sound like an idiot..
You sound like one of these guys who wants the right to get a gun out whenever he is losing an argument.

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If Americans are prepared to live with that risk then fine. Frankly I'm not, although I have no objection to people shooting whatever weapon they choose for sport. I just don't agree with people keeping such lethal weapons in their homes.
If you do not like to live in a free country where you are free to have in your home what you wish to have then go to countrys where you have few personal freedoms and you feel safer, kinda like Thailand where it is the cops who decide who has a gun in his house and who don't, do you feel safer now??
Yes. I come from the UK where the suggestions I have made are in place and the country is a much safer place to live. The regular cops don't need to carry guns and the per capita murder rate is 10% of America's.


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Making it an offence for anyone other than law enforcement to carry a gun outside a recognised firing range, with say a ten year term, would enable the cops to clear a lot of unwanted people off the streets PDQ.
Boy that would sure stop the terrorist shit wouldn't it,, coarse most of the terror is done not with sporting weapons but with 50 KG powder packs and rockets.. But you keep making noises likle that and someone will cover you up.
Who is talking terror? I am referring to everyday murder, most of which is committed by people who know each other and with small arms, not with powder kegs and rockets, but in a country where any nutter is allowed to own an RPG I can see how nobody would consider it unusual for the neighbours to own the odd rocket or two.

As far as terrorism is concerned I fail to see how having the right to bear arms would have prevented 9/11.[/quote]

As you might have noticed, the right to keep and bear arms did not stop 9/11, the right to keep and bear arms is one of the freedoms that the American people have held for themselves whether it has anything to do with protecting world freedom or not is a moot point, There were no firearms involved in 9/11, I heard that there were a few small box cutter knives but no firearms, so you are sounding like a fool again.
No one in the USA is allowed to legally own an RPG, nor a full autofire weapon, there are special licenses for collectors to hold such weapons, you seem to actually know very little about what you are trying to seem expert on tho.
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