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    Indonesia executes six by firing squad for drug trafficking



    Indonesia executes six by firing squad for drug trafficking IRISH TIMES JAN 18

    Indonesia has executed six people, five of them foreigners, for drug trafficking despite international appeals to spare them.
    The government defended the firing squad executions as necessary to combat the rising drug trade.
    Four men, from Brazil, Malawi, Nigeria and the Netherlands, and an Indonesian woman were executed simultaneously in pairs just after midnight, several miles from a high-security prison on Nusakambangan island in Central Java province.

    Named Operation Archimedes, police say 1,027 people have been arrested so far, drug seizures have included 599kg of cocaine, 200kg of heroin and 1.3 tonnes of cannabis, and that 30 Romanian children have been saved from trafficking.
    The other woman, from Vietnam, was executed in Boyolali.

    Their bodies were brought from the island by ambulances for burial or cremation, as requested by relatives and representatives of their embassies.

    President Joko Widodo rejected their clemency requests in December and also refused a last-minute appeal by Brazilian president Dilma Rousseff and the Dutch government to spare their countrymen — Brazilian Marco Archer Cardoso Moreira, 53, and Ang Kiem Soe, 52, who was born in Papua but has Dutch nationality.

    Dutch foreign minister Bert Koenders said today he had temporarily recalled the country’s ambassador to Indonesia and summoned Indonesia’s representative in The Hague to protest at Ang’s execution, which he said was carried out despite King Willem-Alexander and prime minister Mark Rutte personally contacting President Widodo.
    He called the execution “a cruel and inhumane punishment ... an unacceptable denial of human dignity and integrity”.
    Indonesia’s attorney general Muhammad Prasetyo has said there is no excuse for drug dealers and “hopefully, this will have a deterrent effect”.

    Mr Prasetyo said the new government had a firm commitment to fight against drugs and Mr Widodo has said he would not grant clemency to 64 drug convicts on death row.
    “What we do is merely aimed at protecting our nation from the danger of drugs,” Mr Prasetyo said. He said figures from the National Anti-Narcotic Agency showed 40 to 50 people die each day from drugs in Indonesia.

    He said that drug trafficking rings had spread to many places, including remote villages where most victims are youngsters. Indonesia has become the largest drug market in south-east Asia with 45% of the region’s drugs in circulation.

    A second batch of executions would be held later this year which also target drug smugglers, he warned.
    Indonesia, with a population of 250 million people, has extremely strict drug laws and often executes smugglers. More than 138 people are on death row, mostly for drug crimes. About a third of them are foreigners.
    Brazilian Moreira was arrested in 2003 after police at Jakarta airport found 13.4kg of cocaine hidden in his hang glider.
    A second Brazilian, Rodrigo Muxfeldt Gularte, remains on death row in Indonesia, also convicted of drug trafficking.
    Soei was arrested near Jakarta in 2003, after police found equipment which they estimated had been producing 15,000 ecstasy pills a day for three years. Police confiscated 8,000 pills and thousands of dollars.
    The others who were executed were Namaona Denis, 48, from Malawi, Daniel Enemuo, 38, from Nigeria, and Indonesian Rani Andriani.
    Tran Bich Hanh of Vietnam asked authorities to let her face the firing squad uncuffed as one of her last wishes.

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    The only problem with the death penalty is that the law is imperfect and undoubtedly sometimes innocent people are executed. Apart for that, if these people committed the crimes then i am sure they were fully aware in the beginning as to the ultimate Indonesian statutory penalty and therefore brought it upon themselves....RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008
    Soei was arrested near Jakarta in 2003,
    11 years on death row then topped, ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008
    A second batch of executions would be held later this year which also target drug smugglers, he warned.
    Bali nine boys and a few others will have the old sphincter muscle clenching, I would think.

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    I agree exactly with Kevin ,, those were the first thoughts in my head.

    You just hope to God 100% they got the right people .

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post

    Bali nine boys and a few others will have the old sphincter muscle clenching, I would think.

    The Bali boys have done some very positive things whilst in Jail.

    Bit late now but Eh.

    Its seems they will be topped.
    Last edited by terry57; 19-01-2015 at 10:57 PM.

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    would it affect their life insurance ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KEVIN2008
    the ultimate Indonesian statutory penalty
    which will not happen to the little boy driving his fathers car too fast

    none of the rich fcukers get topped

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    ^
    Unfortunately this is true. I have no problem with Capital punishment for People like these two who have trafficked large quantities of drugs and been busted.

    The thing is, Indonesia is so dam corrupt, the death penalty is so over the top because of the other crimes committed by serving Politicians and other Hi-So's in their society.

    If these two where busted in a real country and faced the ultimate punishment fair enough but to do it in a Micky Mouse Asian country just ain't fair crack.

    Indonesia is rotten to the core. Everyone knows it.
    Stroller is a Yerman faggot.

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    And their planes are fcked...

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    very tragic. It's unfortunate that people get involved in drug trafficking. It's even more unfortunate that their punishment is death.

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    And that the small fish get to die.

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    ^

    Yes,

    Thing is these two were the main players who set up the gig hence why they will be getting topped.

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    ^ Which two? One of the Brazilians (Soe) appears to have been a producer but the other five were mules.

    Plenty of small-fry to take over. Executing these 6 won't stop the problem. They need to get to the main guys and execute them.

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    ^

    I'm referring to the two retard Aussies that are up for it in Bali.

    Had enough drugs to sink a battle ship.

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    Every now and again examples have to be made. If this hadn't happened then Indonesia may well have been seen as a soft touch. Good one Indonesia, IMO.

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    Malaysia topped two young Aussies back in the Eighties.

    Barlow and Chambers were Busted clean with a heap of smack and had been trafficking the shit.

    Both from my home town, one was the Brain and the other was the mule.

    Massive outcry when Malaysia hung them.

    A few days later all forgotten. The vast majority of humans ain't got much sympathy for these lot at the end of the day.

    Most speak up just to make themselves feel better.

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    I used to work in Indo 30 odd years ago , even then there were signs up in the airports ( Jakarta and Bali) in many languages informing people that drug smuggling had the death penalty, I doubt that they have been removed, so anyone caught deserves their punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Every now and again examples have to be made.
    Why ?


    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    If this hadn't happened then Indonesia may well have been seen as a soft touch.
    And ?

    Has the execution of any prisoners made any different whatsoever to the drug problem ?

    I'll give you a clue. No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozcol
    I used to work in Indo 30 odd years ago , even then there were signs up in the airports ( Jakarta and Bali) in many languages informing people that drug smuggling had the death penalty, I doubt that they have been removed, so anyone caught deserves their punishment.
    yep, still there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post



    Has the execution of any prisoners made any different whatsoever to the drug problem ?

    I'll give you a clue. No.
    A fact so often overlooked; harsh penalties do nothing to deter drug smuggling as is seen anywhere else, even worse those caught are rarely the real culprits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    A fact so often overlooked; harsh penalties do nothing to deter drug smuggling as is seen anywhere else, even worse those caught are rarely the real culprits.
    The only we'll find out is if the 'death sentence' is not enforced. Then we can do a comparison on 'before and after' figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    The only we'll find out is if the 'death sentence' is not enforced.
    Already known, only too obvious, your statement makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin
    A fact so often overlooked; harsh penalties do nothing to deter drug smuggling as is seen anywhere else, even worse those caught are rarely the real culprits.
    The only we'll find out is if the 'death sentence' is not enforced. Then we can do a comparison on 'before and after' figures.
    Plenty of studies have already been done, before and afters plus side by side comparisions with similar Asian or Latin American countries or even similar states in the US.

    The death penalty does not deter criminals or drug smugglers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwilly View Post

    The death penalty does not deter criminals or drug smugglers.
    Deters the hell out of the ones who get executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post

    A fact so often overlooked; harsh penalties do nothing to deter drug smuggling as is seen anywhere else, even worse those caught are rarely the real culprits.
    Are you saying that most people who get caught smuggling drugs are innocent ?

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