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    low carb is in my opinion the most effective diet form to burn serious fat and i have more than 8years experience in bodybuilding and nutrition.
    its just very difficult to follow in thailand as they put in everything sugar here and there are no low-carb products in thailand.

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    Just eat more veges and fruit along with cutting back on any carbs. I find that food in the US has much more sugar than what the Thais can add. I do like to cut the carbs and keep all sugar to a minimum but do eat my lady's food and still am able to lose weight.
    Oh yeah, cut out the beer which is probably the hardest thing to do in Thailand.

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    Rick, just curious about rice, do you eat a lot of it?


    Even though I started this thread I have yet to commit to LC. I know it works in terms of weightloss but I have yet to do it for more than three months. The most I've lost is about 10 kilos. In general while on it, I feel calmer and have more willpower. I drink loads of water while on it which is a good thing too. I eat much more green veggies on it than I would eating Thai or western foods. I can say that LC got me off coffees with sugar. I choose coffee without sugar no matter what diet I eat these days.

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    All you need is a good intake of EFAs, zinc and plenty of probiotics. These diets are bollocks and more often than not the subject tends to put more weight on at a later date.

    Exercise

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    My thinking is that the rice in Thailand is a "good" carb and the bad ones consist of bread, pizza and pasta. I love pasta, so that was the hardest to quit or cut back. I think eating rice every day is not a bad thing. I used to have a personal friend that was a body builder and trainer of international lifters and his diet consisted of chicken and rice with plenty of water. If you have lost 10 kilos, that is a decent loss. I would continue since the body will plateau for awhile and then you will lose more.

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    I try to stick to mono dieting, where i will snack frequently on small portions of either veg, fruit, meat, fish or dairy products, little or no mixing.

    Carbs best eaten separately from proteins.

    Raw fruit, veges and nuts as opposed to cooked or preserved.
    With my false teeth, nuts and some fruits and veges are a bit tough and uncomfortable to chew, but a blender works.

    Little or no processed foods.
    No fast foods, takeaways or SODA!!

    Added vits a b c d e, esp c., lots of water.

    Stick to higher protein levels, always.

    When necessary, I'll carb up with added vitc and water and steam through a high stress period of activity with loads of energy to spare, really feel good.

    Plenty of time off .


    Don't stick masochistically to the above regime.
    Have the odd burger, ice cream or soda.
    Have a drink of alcohol.
    Mix a little sometimes.

    Coffee is a great drug, so is tea or chocolate, use wisely.

    Keep physically flexible, exercise lightly, daily
    Keep mentally active and alert.

    Try to see the humour in the whole shit scape you see.
    Smile at others.

    Laugh a lot.
    Love all, it hurts sometimes, but worth it.
    I'm a very fit, healthy and active pensioner with grand kids and that's been my diet for years
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    Not bad ENT.

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    ^Thanks Ricks

    It works well.
    There are few other refinements to the system, it is twitchable.

    For instance balanced p/h through balancing salt/sugar to water ratio at say; 1tspn salt to 1 flat tbspn sugar in 1 litre water, Sipped frequently daily.

    Alternatively,use lime/lemon juice or vit c (ascorbic acid) in water with glucose, or better yet, fructose, diabetes safe sugar.

    The ascorbate may be more, or less alkaline or acid, (sodium or potassium) ascorbate.
    Sugar is acid, salt alkaline.

    Check and vary the daily mix you need by alternating alkaline(sodium) bases, as in salt or sodium ascorbate powder. only un-buffered ascorbate, no calcium, is best. Buffered is ok.

    Use small quantities as indicated only.
    3litres of above max daily.

    You know it's working because of a heightened energy level and calm well being.
    feels good and comfortable in every way.
    Sort of nothing ,basic feeling.

    No "high"s, so no lows.
    Other things for that.

    Balanced p/h, mobile, flexible physical and mental system
    High protein, low carb low processed clean food
    Vit C is key.
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    If it works for you, that is the most important thing. Your overall nutrition plan looks sound and I may adopt a couple of your thoughts if that is OK.

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    I'm no die-hard Low-carb-or-nothing person. The best thing about LC is that by doing it you instantly get rid of all the processed foods. I can't see myself succeeding on Atkins or any specific diet longterm, so I would guess that I'll work my way into something that is generally more low carb and hopefully full of more old-fashioned home-cooked natural foods. Most of the meal foods we love were made long ago before the invention of all the additives and processing and long before sugar was so easy to come by. I guess I just would like to be eating more like in those days. It may be something like ENT says. I would like the occasional treat, too. For now, I am just finding my way. I've never been a devout believer in anything so it's going to take some time. I do believe that whether we choose to change or not often times the changes comes anyways.

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    EFAs as pointed out by JJ above are essential for longevity.

    Probiotics as in acidophilus yoghurt and cheeses and other fermented foods, all aid in processing our food intake without depleting vital digetive enezymes that we manufacture in the liver.

    Acidophilus yoghurt is great for those who fart a lot, the result of undigested proteins fermenting in the large intestine.

    Remedy.

    Start consuming large quantities of said yoghurt daily (about a litre a day at one time,not little dribs), allowing the stuff to flush through your intestines to reach the larger intestine to an extent undigested.

    Then the bioforms in the yoghurt get to work on the undigested proteins in the lower intestine, removing the gas source and reducing flatulence almost at once. Clean shit.

    Quickly, you become fart free!

    Halleluja!
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    ^ Ricks
    Cool bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    My thinking is that the rice in Thailand is a "good" carb and the bad ones consist of bread, pizza and pasta.
    What you need to look at is hte glycemic index. Anything processed, like breads or pastas have a higher glycemic index. In regards to rice, Thai Jasmine rice has a very high glycemic index while basmati rice has a lower glycemic index. Brown rice has a lower glycemic index too.

    ENT has given great pointers regarding mixing and taking probiotics. I don't think I've ever seen probiotics in Thailand, so the yougurt thing is good. This would have to be with plain unsweetened yogurt.

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    ^ Yup.

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    Cook any probiotic and it doesn't work, same as yeasts and vitamin c

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    yes low carb works. i do it every couple of years for a few months to shed the cow now fat

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    I am a big fan of yogurt as well. Lots of good stuff on this thread, thanks guys.

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    Just a clip about Bill Clinton eating a vegan diet. Might be interesting to some.


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    Hampsha, I had heard about that. One ideology that I follow is the blood type diet. I'm O+ which is the oldest blood type and we should have high protein and avoid grains such as wheat and corn, and dairy. You see so many people with gluten and dairy sensitivities or allergies, and sure enough, they're type O.

    Type O seems to be the most varied type, with a mix of meats such as beef and lamb, lots of fish and seafood, many fruits and veggies, and herbs and spices allowed.

    Type A's should be vegetarian. I can't remember the rules for B, but AB is a happy balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hampsha
    Just a clip about Bill Clinton eating a vegan diet. Might be interesting to some.
    Saw this show on CNN, was titled "The Last Heart Attack" and it was excellent. Have been following most of their recommendations for a month. Here are the books for that diet:



    Have not bought into the no fish yet...


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    Most diets may work if you stick to them but most diets are not possible over long periods. Usually, someone who has lost weight will quickly regain it

    so, for a normal lifestyle, try to cut down on sugars and fats, eat plenty of veggies and fruits

    if you calorie intake is less than you burn, then you will stay slim

    whatever you eat
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    I'm O+ which is the oldest blood type and we should have high protein and avoid grains such as wheat and corn, and dairy.
    I'm O+, too. I should try 100% wheat,corn and daiiry free for 6 months to see what happens. My biggest problem is the milk I put in coffee every morning. To give that up, I would have to give up the coffee.

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    Looks great, Lorenzo. One thing I have learned is if you can't cook, you will never succeed long-term. I can't cook! No matter LC or veggie, I am very limited. My mom was a great cook but growing up, I only learned to make sandwiches, hotdogs and hamburgers. I can also make Spaghetti. Pretty much everything I make is unhealthy. Someday, I would like to take a cooking course.

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    ^ I have been cooking for 25 years, better and better every year. Just like a diet .. small steps.. never too late to start.

    Had this Lentil soup tonight. Threw in a few extra veggies AROY!!





    The babe in this vid is a hottie

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    Lorenzo, that looks really nice. I like your placemat too. Hampsha, you shuold checl on the net for easy recipes or quick recipes. There are lots of things you could cook in the oven which are easy and healty. Things like roast beef, lamb, chicken, fish.

    Also, you should invest in a nice grill pan. You can grill meats, fish and veggies on it.

    Here's a good site for beginner cooks: Beginner Cook Recipes - Food.com

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