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    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Just found out about a young woman I know.

    She has stage 4 breast cancer which metastasized to her lungs and spine. Sheís pretty much on her death bed. She has three kids. Oldest in high school, youngest 7 years of age.

    Religion is the reason she didnít seek help earlier.

    Suggestion.....

    If anyone of you knows someone who will preach that seeing a competent medical doctor/oncologist isnít the right path to take when confronted with cancer (because itís in Godís hands) and this preacher doesnít have any children to support and you are pretty sure no one loves them and you see them in a dark alley,.......shoot them.
    An update (I saw some posting)ÖÖ.

    The first weekend after I posted the above she was released from the hospital. That Sunday someone shared a video of her doing a little dance when reaching home.

    Early Monday morning she passed away. She will be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    One's mental strength can beat the big C.

    there are people posting on this thread who are dying. there are people posting on this thread that have loved ones who are dying.

    just STFU, prick.

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    Without meaning to be a LT apologist, he was posting at beer o'clock on a Saturday night.

    Problem is : he won't admit he has a problem.

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    ​I talk about palliative care and I am checking it all out

    I as with most of us do not know how long I might have, hopefully 5/7 yrs plus, getting me to 80

    Currently I am happy and very contented and in now way in depression

    Pain is difficult for me, even having my toe nails cut is traumatic, so with two lots of cancer around it is only sensible to explore options so as to ensure if a slow death were to happen at least it would not be in pain

    I have taken control, refused more chemo, almost guaranteed to give six months of adverse effect, am currently saying no to doctors on reversal surgery, and looked at options if these cancers return or spread, which will probably be the case

    Today if more surgery were need to stop the spread of cancer I would probably say no

    So far so good, I have loving younger wife , been married to her ten yrs, (she is wife no 4), escape for an odd massage, drink about half a bottle a day of Sangsom, and enjoy good food

    So if I can find pain suppression for when eventually it might be needed, I will have had a most remarkable, and lucky life


    Cancer scares others who do not have it often far more than me, and I always remember that living from day one is guaranteed to be terminal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loy Toy View Post
    That one quote made me happy.

    Look seriously at dietary options, possibly Chinese herbs and teas and remaining mentally strong and positive.

    My best wishes are with you Mr. Strong Man!

    I have to adapt my diet a little with my colostomy bag, and do believe diet is important

    I am not a strong man, but try to remain positive, also avoid many negative people, and keep a sense of humor

    However common sense can also achieve so much

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    All the best to you Al. I lost my Uncle last year to cancer and I still have not gotten over it.

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    I think I can understand where LT is coming from. He's coming from the outside which is very difficult.
    But I think his heart is in the right place.
    The thing that many folk don't seem to understand, IMHO, is that the so called "battle against the Big C" is bull shit.
    You get the diagnosis from the Docs. You do what they say and you may or may not come out at the other end.
    A lot, of course depends on what you've got.
    Back in 2015 when I got my diagnosis it was heart warming to receive so many emails and letters from folks with suggestions and ideas, proposals and propositions of all kinds of magnificent cures and concoctions that would fix me up.
    It got to the point where I really had to make a decision.
    A serious decision.
    Jump on the train of alternative therapies, cures, and weird and wonderful ideas or, do what my Doctors said.

    I went for the Docs. Namely Dr. Szabo and Dr. We and many others at the remarkable Alan Walker Cancer Center in Darwin.

    They have been fantastic and if I should be lucky enough to get a few extra years it will be down to them.

    NOT TO ME.

    They fought the battle. I did what I was told, and still do.

    NO, you cannot beat cancer, any form of cancer, through the power of the mind.
    This is absolute bullshit.
    You can, sometimes, recover from certain cancers by doing what you're told by the experts that are looking out for you.

    As far as palliative care is concerned I watched my mother go thorough it in the UK when she went down with cancer of the esophagus. She died within 4 weeks of the diagnosis. The folk at the center were fantastic, and she died relatively happy.

    Same same for my father who had endured eons of pain and hospitalization and finally popped it under the splendid care of the good folk at the palliative care center in Torquay (UK).

    I'll not be able to avail myself of the care and attention of the hospice that provided such splendid palliative care to my elders but I do have a reasonable idea how I'll sort things out as we get closer to the closure.

    To repeat;

    whilst I think LT has the best of intentions he hasn't and can't be expected to have much of a clue.

    To be honest, nor can any one else who hasn't actually got it.. so to speak.

    Total respect to you al007 both for posting and being open which is a brave move in it self.
    How disgraceful that TV reacted in the way they did.

    I feel sure you have a home here on The Teak Door and I certainly welcome all your input.

    I doubt any one else will disagree.

    Post away mate, post away.

    It helps us all.

    A lot.

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    Oskar Wilde.

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    Fucking depressing. Sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsnub View Post
    Fucking depressing. Sad
    No it's not it's part of this wonderful tapestry of life.

    There are innumerable times when I might have or should have died I but didn't.

    I seem to have always been bloody lucky.

    This is the last little tickle of a very good life about which I regret very little.

    I hope, with all my heart, that Al007 finds a dignified and painless way out.
    I hope for the same.

    FFS don't we all?
    C'est la vie, or not as the case may be

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    I think I can understand where LT is coming from. He's coming from the outside which is very difficult.
    But I think his heart is in the right place.
    I have spoken to some of the best oncologists in the last 12 months and they all say what they are doing is in line with patient acceptance and support keeping people as positive in themselves as possible.

    The power of personal and positive healing I can read it in Cracker's posts.

    Of course I may be wrong but I really want to believe his fight will see him through.

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    The power of the mind is a factor....just not the only factor.

    However it can be a powerful factor when in conjunction with others.

    There are innumerable stories to illustrate this.

    Just as an example, totally off the cuff, I remember one true story : a man who was given not long to live, and who thought "stuff it....I'm going to enjoy myself".

    He then rented a whole lot of funny movies and watched them in his hospital bed, having a great laugh all day, for a week or so.

    His cancer went into remission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerjack101 View Post
    it's part of this wonderful tapestry of life
    ...otherwise known as the Vale of Tears...I see the rush to develop new cancer therapies bears fruit almost daily, but still not there yet, and feel much as I did in the 80s when virologists were searching for a cure for AIDS...for many, it's a race against time where luck appears to be the deciding factor in life...
    Majestically enthroned amid the vulgar herd

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    Simply hideous of TV to ban your posts. You have a great posting manner, al007. It's their loss, so stuff 'em!
    All the very best wishes for your well-being, al007. Good luck with everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yortyiam View Post
    Simply hideous of TV to ban your posts.
    But typical, apparently. Just more extreme than usual.

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    18 April 2018


    I want to post Information about Colostomy Bags, and Cancer and what I have learnt in five months living with one, there was no information on TV, and if not banned I would have posted this there, my style is too honest for the liking of moderators


    This will be of little interest to many but if I can help one person only I am happy


    I have colorectal and prostate cancers, I underwent Holep prostate surgery, in India, a couple of years ago, and then radiation and chemotherapy at the very top Cancer hospital Chulalongkorn, (government funded) in Bangkok


    Initially I cam out with a clean bill of health, but six months later it had returned, and I had eleven hours on the operating table, with part of my lower colon removed and my ass shut down, and stitched closed


    I now have a temporary colostomy bag, originally I was appalled at the idea, maybe just hide and die


    Five months on, I still do not like it but am learning to live with it, I even go for full body massages, I am also close to saying no on reversal surgery as my life today is very good, I want no more surgery and the doctors can not give guarantees the surgery will be successful, if it were not more surgery, would follow


    I awake from the operation with this bag on my stomach, I say to my dear wife, well you need to learn how to take care of this, today I do 95% of the maintenance


    I have a stoma that has no control and just exudes shit at will, this is surrounded by a flexible wafer that is stuck to my skin, we were given one brief lesson on caring for it, and told to empty as needed and change evert there days


    I buy my supplies from Convatec in Bangkok at competitive prices, I also pay all my own medical costs, I am cheaper than buying from the govt hospital and also cheaper than buying discounted from the use, and then not having to worry about shipping and duty


    I average between changing about seven to eleven days, and have only had one semi disaster so far when too much pressure caused it to part one night, today I sleep on a large towel and have spare towel under my pillow in case I have an emergency situation


    I carry spare in the car and with us when we are out just in case


    I empty between three and six times a day, and often half way through the night, my wife if she wakes also checks to see bag not getting to full or under too much pressure


    When I empty I have a low stool by the loo, open the bag and top up with water, let go into loo and immediately flush, this takes away a lot of the smell, I then flush again a couple of times


    I do not use the suggested closure clips merely a couple of rubber bands, the nurse said only one, but I said they break, and I do not the a ship up with only one rope, a band breaks and a bag full of wet mess all out on the floor not very nice


    So far so good


    With help from Convatec I am using better sized products, and get samples to try FOC


    I followed many forums on colostomy, but found depressing and came to the conclusion a large proportion of disasters are self inflicted, and unsubscribed from most


    I constantly monitor whats happening if food coming through my body gets too hard I take more fruit juice and soda, the bubbles keep it all moving


    I eat a lot of fruit and veg and have to chew food very well, and longer than normal, it all comes out a very small hole


    we hear of blockages, so far so good none


    To keep the doctors happy I gave up bottled beer and now restrict my self to Sangsom (Thai rum) for medicinal reasons I add a lot of soda, and today this is limit of my medications


    No one told me I need a colostomy belt to help secure the bag


    When I change it all I clean around with alcohol, not Sangsom, but blue medical alcohol, I also do not drink this one !, I also use a har drier to dry the skin, and after fitting the new bag again use heat from the hairdryer to warm the adhesive and make it stick better, and then lie flat out for min 30 mins


    I have an emergency plan, my wife knows where to go , where to stop the car and where to find the hospital trolley just in case, we have even practised this routine


    Two years ago I was one night haemorrhaging blood, we had no plan, I checked my blood pressure decided to drive to KK some 20kms away, said to wife if I feel too bad you drive, we got to And E at small private hospital, they said you can not park there, I opened the door and fell to the ground calling for help and trolley, said to the security guard please park the f***ing pick up that is upsetting you
    Today we have a plan we have practised


    I was discharged three days later after colonoscopy, MRI and CT scan having seen three consultants, who all pronounced me fit, despite the incriminating evidence to the contrary, I keep copies of all records and scans


    Needless to say this hospital paid me reasonable compensation not to go to court


    If she ever calls an ambulance, it means she wants me dead, they are unlikely to turn up and maybe wait for ever, and go instead to the bonfire


    Stay Happy, Be Happy, Hope for some luck, and Make some of your own










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    Quote Originally Posted by al007 View Post
    Stay Happy, Be Happy, Hope for some luck, and Make some of your own
    Brilliant therapy mate.

    Keep strong and positive.

    Also happy to see those around you are happy to support you in your battle.

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