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Nawty

Had another invenimation treatment yesterday.

1 sting from a bees bum.

Was itching to do a couple more, but no, must keep to the program.....but the desire is getting stronger.....no must not....but I want to.....

I am wondering if BeeBumJooce is addictive.....I cannot stop thinking about the next hit, day and night.....I am craving several hits at a time now.

Then there is the cost effect to consider......addiction could cause economic upheavel.....a group of about 1500 bees cost 2500b, so if i was taking 10 a day, well, it would soon effect the hive population and might have to drive around dark streets to find another score.....1500 bees please.....all wrapped in foil....no i am hollusinating now, getting ridiculous.....need a hit to settle down.

Next treatment is saturday, if 1 single hit does not satisfy me this time, i will do 2 on sunday.

I have another plan....we have a certain plant which attracts dozens and dozens of small wild bees everyday to the flowers on it.

I am going to catch 10 at a time and put them in a small jar, then hold it upside down on the required area and let them all go at it and see if wild bees offer a superior edge over the domestic cousins......cuz.

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Nawty

Wonder if you could dry bees and smoke em....

beazalbob69

While you are at it you could also use maggots to clean out rotting flesh from a bad wound.
They use leeches for something now also but for what escapes me at the moment? Something about blood clotting?
I have also heard about the bee sting therapy somewhere dont remember where.

Isnt there something about pissing on a jellyfish makes it happy or something like that....

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Rural Surin

....make lovely condiments for your sticky rice.

nidhogg

As noted earlier (by crippen, IIRC) bee venom therapy has quite a following - especially amongst arthritis patients.

BUT -BIG FUCKING BUT - here mate, some people are allergic to bee venom, and a mildly allergic reaction initially can get more severe on subsequent stings till you trigger a massive allergic reaction leading to anaphylactic shock and likely DEATH.

So, maybe be careful there?

Allergic Reactions to Insect Stings

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Nawty

oooooh oh....that sounds like me when younger, but have not been stung until last weekend for 20 odd years.

Each time I was stung as a young buck, the swelling got worse and worse, until the last time when my whole leg swelled from a sting on the foot.....so I expected much worse this time round, especially with the double hit on first day.....not my fault.

But now yesterdays treatment has not swollen at all, nothing really this time except for some redness and itch and small 10baht coin size swelling.

UpTooYou

Any pics?

Mr Earl

This has been around a while.
bee sting therapy

Nawty

never thought of tweezers.....good idea, shall take a pair next trip

Panda

Nawty. Please be aware that mild allergies can progress to Anaphylaxis which is a full on allergic reaction that can, and often does kill!

Suggest you read up on it and be aware of the symptoms. You could be playing with fire since you used to be overly sensitive to bee stings when younger.

If you get any of the following symptoms, --- itchy rash, numbness swelling tingling of the lips and face, dizziness, shortness of breath, --- be VERY WORRIED INDEED!

I am not joking here mate. This is a serious post.

Bobcock

If he dies....he dies....No Big Loss.

Nawty

make note.....take Knobs out of the Will

DaffyDuck

I'd suggest he stick his head into a beehive for the beneficial effects, but he's dumb enough that he would actually try it.

DrAndy

Is there any difference in the venom between wasp and bee stings?

you can re-use a wasp

Rural Surin

Better chance that any common wasp and hornet toxins will be stronger, as bee's barbs exist for principally defence purposes, yet their cousins are omnivorous and tend to have a longer lifespand. One only needs to test the difference.....

Nawty

While sticking my head into a bees hive would be beneficial.....nothing can help Daffney to become a likable person in any group of people...so consistant he is.

As for Wasp versus Bees....wasps do not produce honey, honey is medically beneficial and one of the healthiest and most natural things around.

Seems probable that bees venom could well be associated with this. Whereas wasps are as useless....well as daffney.

Have been stung by a wasp and it did nothing but hurt.

I would like to remind the posts above concerned with my safety, that I am not doing this for just myself, this is a medical experiment that just may make it into another medical journel...hey DD.

Where would we be if people had not offered themselves up for medical experiments ? Daffney is an example of taking experimentation to far of course, but even the experts make mistakes.

Tomorrow is treatment day....cannot wait.

But I shall take note of the warnings and will not jump right into 3 invenimations at once, just 2 on sunday if tomorrows is not producing much effect.

I shall also not jump right into the 10 wild bees in a jar technique, as we do not know how strong the 'wild' venom is. It might be the same as scorpions...the smaller they are, the harder they sting....so caution here.

Maybe I could sting the dog first and see what happens.

Anybody know the medical procedure for propholactic shock or whatever it is called ??

nidhogg

propholactic shock - thats where a condom scares you right?

Anaphylactic shock is normally treated with a self administered Epi-pen followed by immediate hospitalization.

So long as you realize that, in cases of anaphylactic shock, people can die within minutes without intervention, knock yourself out.

Nawty

How do you knock yourself out ??

But seriously now.....if AS was going to happen, surely it would have by now right ?? and it should happen immediately if it is going to happen right ? and if I have now had 4 stings in a 7 day period with no allergic or severe reaction, then all should be ok right ?

But really interested in the treatment of it if it comes on so severely and quickly...for my kids sake, not so much mine.....never know if they might be allergic or not, although my son got stung by a wasp at school last month 4 times and he was taken to the hospital immediately but was fine, no reaction at all.

nidhogg

As I am aware at the moment, real severe cases are unlikely to occur (but some times do!) on a first exposure. Someone normally has a mild/moderate reaction first or second time, and then on subsequent exposures the reaction gets progressively more severe. Its the same with the nut allergies etc.

My mother is allergic to bee stings. She has been stung about twice (in UK) as I recall. Second time her whole arm swelled up like a ballon. The next sting (if ever) could have very serious consequences for her.

For people who know they have a severe allergic reaction to something they might get exposed to (food, environment whatever), they normally carry an Epi-pen, which is a basically a needle with a drug called epinephrine for self injection:

Epinephrine autoinjector - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think I posted a link earlier about the signs and symptoms of bee sting allergy, you should have a read. If you start to develop any of the signs on subsequent envenomations, I would think really carefully about carrying on.

Have fun.

Nawty

As I said before, I had those mild reactions as a youngster.....maybe 5 bites all up and each time they got worse as in the amount of swelling, so much that the last time, about 20 years ago at least, my leg swelled up very large froma bite on the foot.

But now, nothing really after 4 bites except for some small local swelling.

I am wondering that if it is like asthma. you can grow out of it.

I am doing this to see if it helps tennis elbow, of which i now have 2 and I have never played tennis. Would be nice if it works.