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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    I walk at leat 4kms a day. It does nowt.
    How do you know?

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    ^ Err... I'm still a fat bastard?!

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    I used to suffer from pretty bad indigestion, in fact when they stuck one of those horrible gadgets down my throat it turned out I had peritoneal folds- next stage being an ulcer.

    I took the necessary pills for that, and altered my dietary habits. The catchword is 'food combination'. You might want to buy a book on it (I recommend Dr. Robert Youngs 'PH Miracle', you might need to get it thru Amazon). I rarely get indigestion these days, but when I do it's obvious why- drinking too much and eating heavy stodgy, poorly combined food.

    Heres some hints-

    Only eat one complex carbohydrate per meal. That means if spuds, no bread, if Nan bread, no rice and so on. Your stomach has to increase it's acidity level to digest carbs anyway, but when it is a cocktail of mixed carbs it has to do so radically. Try to cut down on white bread, and leavened bread in general. This one is important, and not hard to do.

    Meat and spuds is delicious, but rough to digest. Try to save it as an occasional treat. Nothing wrong with a nice juicy steak and salad anyway.

    Don't forget then veggies! Raw green veggies in particular are alkalising- try and find some ways to enjoy them. I find sliced raw veg and a dip, such as hommous or plain yoghurt very nice actually.

    Eliminate added sugar, period. That means no coke and fizzy drinks, unsweetened tea and coffee. Even try and avoid it added to fruit juices, canned peas and beans and so on. In practise this is hard to do- added sugar crops up everywhere in processed food- but once your taste buds adjust you won't miss it. Refined sugar is nothing but bad news.

    Get an alkalising green drink, and drink it daily. You'll probably need to go to a health food shop. Powdered wheat grass is particularly good- it really helps, believe me. This even helps counterract bad dietary habits.

    Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    I will also try a ginger bomb every day for a couple of weeks. Basically, you drink a table spoon of liquidised ginger on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. This creates a very nasty environment for the bad bacteria. Then, in the evening I will drink a pint of broccoli juice as this does a similar thing.

    The more I read, the more I'm sure about having problems with that nasty bacteria.
    Ouch. Try bactrium if you think it's bacteria in the stomach. (Not antibiotics) But, the symptoms usually include diarrhaea. Peppermint tea, Marmite and get rid of the stress factors.

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    Cant you go swimming if you need exercise, Marmite? Sour milk products are not a bad breakfast for upset stomachs... cannot remember if you can get any products with a culture called Acidophilus in the var. supermarkeds. Looks/tastes like yoghurt. Dietists say stay off the coffee.
    Liverproblems!!!! Could not have anything to do with a certain place on Rachawithi Rd
    Joke aside I hope you will get better soon...Aloe Vera juice should be soothing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    I will also try a ginger bomb every day for a couple of weeks. Basically, you drink a table spoon of liquidised ginger on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. This creates a very nasty environment for the bad bacteria. Then, in the evening I will drink a pint of broccoli juice as this does a similar thing.

    The more I read, the more I'm sure about having problems with that nasty bacteria.

    Use fat free yougurt. Eat every day and/or make lassie with it. Lassie is an Indian drink made with fruit for sweetner, yougurt and water. Yougurt is a good bacteria and does a great job. A doctor once told me that if there was only one food left on earth he hoped it was yougurt. You can also use it in place of mayo, and sour cream when cooking and or mixing things to eat. I eat eight large scoops of oatmeal mixed with warm water, 1 cup of fat free-low sugar or unsweetened yougurt and sometimes with fruit for breakfast every day. Just mix it all together and dig in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Err... I'm still a fat bastard?!
    You're not really going to lose weight doing 4K a day. But, your body weight is probably a given, within a certain range. So, don't go all out to lose weight. On the other hand, with a little bit of effort you can maintain cardiovascular health (the 4K walk helps a lot), strength, agility and balance. When I got to be 50 I was still quite strong and had plenty of endurance but I'd lost my agility and balance. I've managed to reverse that by changing the emphasis of my workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    I will also try a ginger bomb every day for a couple of weeks. Basically, you drink a table spoon of liquidised ginger on an empty stomach first thing in the morning. This creates a very nasty environment for the bad bacteria. Then, in the evening I will drink a pint of broccoli juice as this does a similar thing.

    The more I read, the more I'm sure about having problems with that nasty bacteria.
    Eating ginger is an old Chinese recipe for puku(That means guts ..for all you pakeha!!) problems.

    Ginger can work ok, but not as good as losec (Omneprazole) Just go to a Chemist and try it.FFS, if it's that bad see a quack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sabang View Post
    I used to suffer from pretty bad indigestion, in fact when they stuck one of those horrible gadgets down my throat it turned out I had peritoneal folds- next stage being an ulcer.

    I took the necessary pills for that, and altered my dietary habits. The catchword is 'food combination'. You might want to buy a book on it (I recommend Dr. Robert Youngs 'PH Miracle', you might need to get it thru Amazon). I rarely get indigestion these days, but when I do it's obvious why- drinking too much and eating heavy stodgy, poorly combined food.

    Heres some hints-

    Only eat one complex carbohydrate per meal. That means if spuds, no bread, if Nan bread, no rice and so on. Your stomach has to increase it's acidity level to digest carbs anyway, but when it is a cocktail of mixed carbs it has to do so radically. Try to cut down on white bread, and leavened bread in general. This one is important, and not hard to do.

    Meat and spuds is delicious, but rough to digest. Try to save it as an occasional treat. Nothing wrong with a nice juicy steak and salad anyway.

    Don't forget then veggies! Raw green veggies in particular are alkalising- try and find some ways to enjoy them. I find sliced raw veg and a dip, such as hommous or plain yoghurt very nice actually.

    Eliminate added sugar, period. That means no coke and fizzy drinks, unsweetened tea and coffee. Even try and avoid it added to fruit juices, canned peas and beans and so on. In practise this is hard to do- added sugar crops up everywhere in processed food- but once your taste buds adjust you won't miss it. Refined sugar is nothing but bad news.

    Get an alkalising green drink, and drink it daily. You'll probably need to go to a health food shop. Powdered wheat grass is particularly good- it really helps, believe me. This even helps counterract bad dietary habits.

    Good luck.
    Good advice, and I have noticed that not eating complex carbs makes a big difference. But, I do occasionally want to eat shitty food, so I will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    Try bactrium if you think it's bacteria in the stomach. (Not antibiotics) But, the symptoms usually include diarrhaea. Peppermint tea, Marmite and get rid of the stress factors.
    I've got some Japanese good bacteria stuff. I'll see how that goes.

    Stress factors - very funny.

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    Cant you go swimming if you need exercise, Marmite?
    No.

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    FFS, if it's that bad see a quack.
    I did, as I said already. But docs in Thailand are quite simple unable to diagnose stuff.

    Actually, I'm starting to think that I'm KW or Scampy. Getting lots of advice, but not taking it. Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat
    IMHO. Forget about fitness centers and spending a lot of money. Buy a good book on stretching and walking. You may not look like Mr. Universe after a period of time but you will be in top physical condition simply by walking.
    It all depends on what works best for you as an individual and what your goals are - if you are looking to go full body tone for example walking isn't going to do it.

    Whatever you do motivation is the key. I honestly couldn't be arsed with walking (at least not the amount that would be required for it to be benficial) but have no problems with going to the gym 3 or 4 times a week. Go figure, there's no rationale behind it all just what works for me.

    Gym's needn't be expensive either. I've just renewed my membership, 16,000B for 3yrs so just north of 5,000B per year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klongmaster View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ceburat
    IMHO. Forget about fitness centers and spending a lot of money. Buy a good book on stretching and walking. You may not look like Mr. Universe after a period of time but you will be in top physical condition simply by walking.
    Good advice this...especially for you guys who live in an apartment or condo...as I did for my first 10 years here...lived on the 5th floor and never took the lift...stairs are excellent aerobic exercise...



    good thread marmers: I often have this problem so will try some of the things mentioned here...
    Agree regarding the lack of need to join a gym to stay fit.
    Walking will work but to shed the pounds you will also need to change your dietary habits- ie eat less of the wrong things.

    Bangkok is not the best city in the world to walk or run in unless you can get to a park.

    I notice lots of locals in the park doing Tai Chi (?) . What does that do for you haelthwise? I have never tried it myself.

    By the by KM why are the two guys in the photo using the escalaltor to "walk up" a handful of steps to go to the gym or was that the reason for inserting the photo?

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    ^ geez, Troubled, try and edit that last sentence out before anyone else reads it...

    Some great advice here. I radically changed my diet in London -- went to the gym every lunch hour, but wasn't losing body fat. I changed my diet to get rid of most fats, which was tough as I love dairy, cheese, peanut butter, etc. But, after one month, the staff couldn't believe the drop in my fat content. I'd still treat myself to a Big Mac or something equally greasy spoon once a week, but if the main diet has lots of nutritional stuff, it shouldn't harm. I eat lots of Japanese food now, and veg, mostly in hearty home-made soups.
    Hope you find something that works, Marmers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jet Gorgon
    I'd still treat myself to a Big Mac
    A Big Mac is a treat? Sick woman!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Isn't there a Fitness Thailand in Bangers?
    No.

    Fitness (Thailand) Chiang Mai

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson
    Isn't there a Fitness Thailand in Bangers?
    No.

    Fitness (Thailand) Chiang Mai
    Huh, weird! Only a few hours ago I was sitting here and thinking to myself: 'Say, I wonder if that question I asked in Marmite's Indigestion thread several months ago has been answered?'


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Otherwise, is there a sure-fire way to make yourself puke?
    Watch half an hour of Thai TV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Otherwise, is there a sure-fire way to make yourself puke?
    ...That Katoey Cabaret show at the Asia hotel should do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog
    Actually, I'm starting to think that I'm KW or Scampy. Getting lots of advice, but not taking it. Sorry.
    bladdy hell, i missed this comment!

    Since when did u or anyone else advise me not to buy a pretend wedding ring for the indo bird ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Chuchok View Post
    Proton pump inhibitor is what you want.Too much acid can cause ulceration of the oesophagus.

    Simply put, go to Chemist ask for Omneprazole or Losec.Take one a day for a couple of days.They are a bloody wonder drug.

    I had you problem and used to put up with it,that's untill I started bleeding from the gut.
    After a few years mulling it over, I bought some of these tablets today (Dosate 20mg Omeprazole) and I drop a tab just before having a sarnie this evening. I could feel it do it's thing, but I think it's been overpowered by my stomach and my stomach burn is just as bad as ever.

    I'm a bit reluctant to take another one.

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    it takes several weeks of taking the meds to see results.

    I used to have every symptom you have. A few years ago I went in a Thai drugstore and got Miracid. I started taking it and have done so the past few years. No more bloat, no more acid burn, and no more feeling like I was going to vomit.

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    OK. I'll take it twice a day before stodgy meals and see what happens.

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    try changing your diet, eat more fruit and veg, less meat

    leave out the stodge

    you may even lose weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    try changing your diet, eat more fruit and veg, less meat
    My diet is already like that. The problem occurs when fresh baguettes are pulled out of the oven.

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