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    ^ some dodgy machine his wife got from an unscrupulous insurance salesman are the readings he's going on.

    They're both trying to unburden the chubby fucker

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    @JPPR - I'm a Filipina, not a native speaker, so I translate my sentences. Maybe "struck" was the wrong word - what's more appropriate?

    My colleagues both experienced numbness & high BP. I think for the girl, it's her first episode of HPN, so she's still in the denial stage. As for the guy, he's a bit hard headed & still loves fatty & sugary foods.
    My apologies Katie23. "Diagnosed" is probably a better word. "Struck" is a word used when it came on instantly. High BP is usually something that takes a bit of time to develop like Diabetes. Example would be a heart attack or a stroke is something someone is "Struck" with.

    Hope that helps

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    Many people, myself included, are inevitably agitated when having BP taken (white coat syndrome) with the resultant higher than expected readings. A while ago, got myself one of these machines, simple to use, with the benefit of bluetooth to transfer each reading to your phone via an app (which then catalogues daily/weekly/monthly figures and averages).


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAG View Post
    Many people, myself included, are inevitably agitated when having BP taken (white coat syndrome) with the resultant higher than expected readings.
    That would be me, lol. I've got something like that BP cuff, but I guess it's an older model as there's no bluetooth facility or the like.

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    @AO - HPN is the medical abbreviation for hypertension. Whenever I have my annual med checkup (c/o employer), it's what the nurses/docs write on my paper during the "interview" part - what meds are you taking (none), family history (HPN), present & past illnesses, etc.

    @JPPR - I sometimes think in Tagalog (my mother tongue) and translate thoughts into English in my head when writing here. So sometimes the words are lost in translation. However, sometimes I think in English, when it's for work or technical stuff.

    Re: HPN, stroke and the like, yeah, it takes time to build up. I have a friend who had a mild stroke in late June - he's still on medical leave & not allowed to work. The nurses said that his condition took months or years to develop, as he has HPN, is diabetic, overweight & lacks exercise. Combination of all those factors led to his stroke. He was also included in the same beach holiday - seafood & pork indulgence. He had the stroke a few days after the holiday - it's like the food indulgence was the tipping point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    The nurses said that his condition took months or years to develop, as he has HPN, is diabetic, overweight & lacks exercise.
    Sounds he he more or less chose his own fate.. My guess is he diabetes would be diet related. Choices have to be made.

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    Don't buy into the health charlatans...

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    next TD poster to pop his clogs odds-

    4/5 Jeff by cholera or TB or some other third world disease
    Evens Cujo by electrocution from dodgy bp monitor
    6-4 Luigi from AIDS or pimp
    5-1 Headworx from falling down a coverless storm drain
    7-1 Chitty from third degree burns from the front of a hotrod
    8-1 the field from old age

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    if you can get it...Tritace tablet, 1 a day is for hypertension (high blood pressure).

    Its effective.

    Of course, always seek an additional medical confirmation before following Dr. Dhupp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by happynz View Post
    That would be me, lol. I've got something like that BP cuff, but I guess it's an older model as there's no bluetooth facility or the like.
    Screenshot of this morning's reading on my phone:


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    ^cool. My ofc clinic also has an Omron monitor, but probably an older model too.

    @AO - yeah, my guy friend brought the stroke onto himself. Sometimes when we eat out and we see.him indulging, we remind him to rein in his food intake. But then he will say, pfft, he has meds. Re: his diabetes, he has controlled it before - when he was just diagnosed. He lost a lot of weight. But then the past year or so, he slacked and gained weight again, plus the other unhealthy habits. He's able to walk but his speech & thought processes were affected. Hopefully he'll be fit to work again in a few months. This guy is in his early 40s.

    Happy weekend to all - keep happy and healthy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    if you can get it...Tritace tablet, 1 a day is for hypertension (high blood pressure).

    Its effective.

    Of course, always seek an additional medical confirmation before following Dr. Dhupp.
    I'm sure this drug will work just fine treating the symptoms of high blood pressure, but it does nothing about what is causing HBP, your body is telling you something, need to take positive action not mask the cause with a drug!
    After taking this drug for a while sure you will start suffering one of the many side effects listed below, what then, take more drugs to treat? This is why drug companies make so much money and so many folks end up Dependant on prescribed pharmaceuticals.
    Side effects:-


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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I'm sure this drug will work just fine treating the symptoms of high blood pressure, but it does nothing about what is causing HBP, your body is telling you something, need to take positive action not mask the cause with a drug!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    I'm sure this drug will work just fine treating the symptoms of high blood pressure, but it does nothing about what is causing HBP, your body is telling you something, need to take positive action not mask the cause with a drug!
    After taking this drug for a while sure you will start suffering one of the many side effects listed below, what then, take more drugs to treat? This is why drug companies make so much money and so many folks end up Dependant on prescribed pharmaceuticals.
    Side effects:-

    all meds.have side affects,but if you take any other drugs,check if there is any INTERACTIONS with this drug [tritace] I went to hell and back after a doctors incompetence,prescribeing a drug that had interactions with many meds.i was taken,eg.DILLANTIN interacted with many of my life saveing meds.yet for 5months the doctor done NOTHING,I WAS A STUPID FARANG. thai knows better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    need to take positive action not mask the cause with a drug!
    ^ Exactly right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    After taking this drug for a while sure you will start suffering one of the many side effects listed below, what then, take more drugs to treat? This is why drug companies make so much money and so many folks end up Dependant on prescribed pharmaceuticals.
    Even worse is your tolerance level increases over time and those the 5mg tabs don't help anymore so they prescribe a 10Mg tab which likely doubles the side effect potential.

    Again, Meds have become part of our lazy society and a huge part of the population have become pharmaceutical junkies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Again, Meds have become part of our lazy society and a huge part of the population have become pharmaceutical junkies.
    Sad isn't it, part & parcel of the "Nanny state" which is run by corporations, life expectancy is rapidly going downhill in many so called civilised areas where the use of legal drugs are heavily prescribed!
    Thankfully some people are getting smart and taking responsibility for their own health & not leaving it to some drug pushing "Doctor" who in reality is just a representative of the pharmaceutical industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Airportwo View Post
    Sad isn't it, part & parcel of the "Nanny state" which is run by corporations, life expectancy is rapidly going downhill in many so called civilised areas where the use of legal drugs are heavily prescribed!
    Thankfully some people are getting smart and taking responsibility for their own health & not leaving it to some drug pushing "Doctor" who in reality is just a representative of the pharmaceutical industry.
    Indeed.

    "They" say we are living longer now because of the medical and drug advancements but the trade off appears to be the quality of life is dramatically reducing. So its begs the question. Do you want to live longer and be a junky tied to your doctors control taking endless meds?

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    My blood pressure is slightly above normal until I need to go to the doctors and then it rockets. So they keep testing it and it gets higher and higher...

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Again, Meds have become part of our lazy society and a huge part of the population have become pharmaceutical junkies.
    .................................................. ^That word again...for something that applies far more in the US than elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by armstrong View Post
    My blood pressure is slightly above normal until I need to go to the doctors and then it rockets. So they keep testing it and it gets higher and higher...
    Indeed, that's why it's a good idea to have your own test equipment. Ideally when testing, you'll be sitting comfortably, and will have not drank alcohol or caffeine, exercised, smoked or ate food 30 minutes before taking a measurement. For most, readings are lower in the morning than they are in the evening. If you're readings are consistently in the 'at risk' area, research what elements of your lifestyle could be altered and make a plan for change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    .................................................. ^That word again...for something that applies far more in the US than elsewhere.

    I disagree. Look at the world. Chinese, Japanese, Filipino's, Thais, Australians, English.....All those societies have become lazy, over weight and taking meds. Every hospital I see in Thailand is PACKED with people. In fact most have waiting lines. I doubt they are going in to say "Hello Doc Just wanted to drop by and see how you are doing"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    ^ some dodgy machine his wife got from an unscrupulous insurance salesman are the readings he's going on.

    They're both trying to unburden the chubby fucker
    Are you talking about me? choo must be talking about me cause there's no one else here.
    Anyway I've cut the beer way down as I said, going to the gym or doing a 5 k powerwalk everyday along with
    some weight training and watching what I eat. Living on chicken breasts and salads, no pasta , very little bread Oatmeal porridge and a banana for breakfast, chicken salad samich on wholemeal bread for lunch, chicken breast and either salad or mixed green vegetables for dinner. I've lost 4 kg since I started this thread , would be more except a couple of blowouts along the way. (two big beer sessions and 2 Mcdonalds pigouts.)
    I should get another BP reading. I feel great though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPPR2 View Post
    Indeed.

    "They" say we are living longer now because of the medical and drug advancements but the trade off appears to be the quality of life is dramatically reducing. So its begs the question. Do you want to live longer and be a junky tied to your doctors control taking endless meds?
    "Big Pharma" has a huge PR machine, proportionate to their obscene profits, they have built the myth of "we are living longer now", they never mention quality of life.
    A recent article I read stated that in many of the old working class areas of the UK life expectancy was now 64, the same as Ethiopia! Someone isn't telling the truth?

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    Talking about meds I've noticed on internet adds lately (the last few years I suppose) a huge increase in adds for drugs to combat diseases you never knew existed. One that sticks in my craw, I mean mind, is one for 'dry eye disease' FFS.
    Take these tablets and your eyes won't be dry anymore. Followed by a horrendous list of possible side effects any of which would be worse than having dry eyes. followed by advice to see your eye doctor. Who the fuck 'has' an eye doctor.
    Americans, WTF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    I feel great though.
    One thing that will help you greatly & if it has been mentioned I apoligise is some good supplements, the fallacy that if you eat well you get all the nutrients you need used to be true, now food is grown for profit not health, a lot of nutrients that you think you are getting are not present, magnesium is high on this list, if your not taking one get a good quality supplement.

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