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    Magnesium Miracle?

    The Benefits of Magnesium:

    I started taking Magnesium Bisglycinate on Thursday evening, October 26th/2017...I'd heard a lot about magnesium supplements over the years and now I've finally decided to give it a try...

    Now, my problem is that I'm naturally very fit...The problem being is that when trying a supplement that many people recommend, I don't notice much change, so the jury's out on how much benefit I'm getting...

    However, that doesn't mean that the supplement isn't doing any good...But we all want something that will really produce a noticeable effect in a relatively short time....

    Now, I've tried several "supplement type programs" before, just for my own knowledge, so it's not my first rodeo, as they say...

    One of them was Apple Cider Vinegar which I took every day for a few months...But I noticed nothing in particular...Again, I was pretty fit, so who knows?...

    This one is different, however...It's effects are pretty much immediate...My own limited research told me that about 80% of the population have a magnesium deficiency...And I'd also met some interesting people over the years, some athletes and people knowledgeable in fitness, massage, as well as your average person with some info on the subject...

    That was enough for me to try it...That, plus the fact that I wanted a "boost"...A physical boost...So you don't have to rely so much on your mind to push through the pain areas from old sports injuries, for instance...

    I spoke with Olga, an intelligent Russian lady at the shop where she recommended Magnesium Bisglycinate out of the many types of magnesium supplements they had in stock...You have to do a bit of research, plus talk to people in the know, because there is stuff that is worthless and also other types that won't be absorbed into your system, etcetera...

    Enough of that...I bought a plastic bottle of 120 capsules of 200 mg each for about $30 Canadian...I take one in the morning and another in the evening for a healthy start of 400 mg/day...A two-month supply...Enough time to notice any change...

    Thursday evening, I popped one, and then 2 the next day...I think that's when I got a pretty strong headache, which is something that usually doesn't happen with me...Having tried other stuff in the past, and after googling the effects of magnesium, I've confirmed (for myself) that it was a "cleansing effect" or "detoxification effect" where the supplement is "flushing your system," to be brief...

    Anyhow...Enough for now...But I will say this...When I go about my business, be it an uphill mountain hike, or a fast walk, weaving through the mall or down the street, I am noticing a significant spring in my step and the pain of old injuries is definitely less noticeable...

    This has only been a few days now...I'm conferring with friends and I will visit the blonde Russian bombshell, "Dr Olga," for a follow-up very soon...

    Cheers...


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    The Magnesium Miracle, by Dr. Carolyn Dean MD ND

    Every day I hear another magnesium success storyÖ

    My editor for the UK edition of The Miracle of Magnesium told me that as soon as she read my manuscript she gave magnesium to a friend who had severe muscle cramps. Her friend had visited several doctors and nobody could diagnosis her condition or offer her relief. Magnesium helped her immediately.

    My book agentís brother canít believe how much his energy has improved on magnesium and his wifeís menopausal symptoms are lifting since she began taking supplements.

    And every day I also hear distressing stories about magnesium deficiency. Just today walking along the beach near my home I met an 80-year old gentleman who asked me to sit and talk. Julius said he used to walk up and down the beach like me but now his arthritis prevented him. But he said he only began having symptoms of arthritis after taking medication for slightly elevated cholesterol.

    Instead of a diet and magnesium, his doctor immediately put him on a cholesterol-lowering drug. When he began developing pain, which was obviously from the drug, instead of stopping the drug and giving magnesium to lower cholesterol, to help detoxify the drug, and also lessen muscle cramps, his doctor gave him a strong pain medication. And then his ankles began to swell and Julius said his doctor gave him a diuretic!

    And so the story goes, one drug causing symptoms that demand another drug. Thatís what doctors learn about in medical school: drugs. They donít learn about diet and nutrients, so it seems that all they know how to do is prescribe drugs. Julius said he was going to tell his doctor to change his cholesterol medication, which, by the way, in several years had only dropped his cholesterol of 205 to 185.

    I told him to go on a cholesterol-lowering diet and take magnesium. Even though Julius said he was mad about having to take the drugs and he wished he had been given a diet in the first place, Julius said he would have to ask his doctor before taking the magnesium. And my heart sank, because his doctor probably didnít learn about magnesium supplementation in medical school and would probably say itís unnecessary.

    Doctors know potassium deficiency is a danger for people on diuretics but they donít acknowledge that magnesium is also flushed out in equal measure. Magnesium deficiency goes undiagnosed and unrecognized because until recently there was no accurate blood test for magnesium.

    Patients are warned to take potassium supplements or eat oranges and bananas, but no advice is given about magnesium. Magnesium is not as readily available as potassium; itís deficient in the soil and most fertilizers donít contain magnesium, so most foods are lacking. Also cooking and processing foods depletes magnesium. Itís found in whole grains, greens, nuts and seeds, but most people donít eat much, if any, of those foods.

    And yet, for some reason doctors think that we get all our nutrients in our very SAD, Standard American Diet and they donít recognize the need for nutrient supplementation. It all stems back to a medical education that is funded by drug companies that have no vested interest in promoting nutrients.

    Vitamins and minerals canít be patented and are relatively inexpensive. My research for The Miracle of Magnesium reminded me that all the metabolic processes in the body, ALL OF THEM, depend on vitamins and minerals, which act as necessary co-factors.

    Magnesium itself is a co-factor and responsible for the function of 325 enzymes; is an absolute requirement for calcium to be incorporated into bone; keeps toxic chemicals out of the brain; dances with calcium to create nerve impulses and muscle impulses; keeps muscles relaxed, including the heart and blood vessels, and triggers dozens of health conditions if it is deficient.

    The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for magnesium is between 350 and 400 milligrams per day, which is just enough to ward off outright deficiency. But for optimal health and for the twenty-two conditions that are triggered by magnesium deficiency, perhaps twice as much magnesium is needed.

    One of the highest sources of magnesium is kelp, but one tsp. only has about 30 milligrams. One tablespoon of almonds has 33 milligrams. Because we probably donít get nearly enough magnesium from our diet we have to investigate magnesium supplements.

    I used to use several types of magnesium. I have written about those in many of my books and blogs. But in 2012 I decided to create a magnesium product that I could use for my own symptoms.

    Itís called ReMag Magnesium Solution. Itís picometer-sized which means itís absorbed 100% at the cellular level, so your cells have immediate access to usable magnesium. ReMag is a 60,000ppm concentration of 99.99% pure elemental pico meter magnesium. Itís 100% bio-available and can be used topically as well. Another bonus: no laxative effect!

    Let me explain the laxative effect with this mineral. Magnesium has a wonderful failsafe mechanism that prevents it from building up in the body Ė the laxative effect. Whatís not absorbed into the bloodstream and into the cells after a dose of magnesium goes through the kidneys into the urine and also through the intestines as loose stool.

    My problem is that any other form of magnesium in pills or powder gave me a fairly immediate laxative effect. This means Iím unable to get enough magnesium into my blood and cells to effectively fight my magnesium deficiency symptoms before it explodes out the other end!!

    Sorry, a bit dramatic, but thatís what happens to a certain percentage of magnesium users. When I began using the right type of magnesium [ReMag] I finally found relief for most of my magnesium deficiency symptoms (heart palpitations, charley horses, insomnia, muscle twitching) with no laxative effect.

    The only contraindications to magnesium are caused in people with outright kidney failure, bowel obstruction, Myasthenia gravis, or heart block. Also, if you have a heart condition you may find that taking magnesium can lessen the need for heart medication and you should be under doctorís supervision to guide this process.

    The following 22 medical areas that magnesium deficiency triggers or causes have all been scientifically proven. However, since the publication of The Magnesium Miracle people have sent me magnesium success stories that go beyond the following list. Iíve been told that magnesium has caused skin to become smooth, gums to heal, and improvements in sexual response.

    In the next edition of my book Iíll present updated research on the ability of magnesium to lower cholesterol in the same way as statin drugs but without the side effects. There is also evidence that magnesium is important for the treatment of diabetic neuropathy. As I say in the book, if you are able to only take one supplementómake sure itís magnesium!

    Magnesium Deficiency Triggers or Causes
    The Following Conditions:

    Anxiety and Panic attacks- Magnesium (Mg) normally keeps adrenal stress hormones under control.

    Asthma- Both histamine production and bronchial spasms increase with Mg deficiency.

    Blood clots- Mg has an important role to play in preventing blood clots and keeping the blood thin-much like aspirin but without the side effects.

    Bowel disease- Mg deficiency slows down the bowel causing constipation, which could lead to toxicity and malabsorption of nutrients, as well as colitis.

    Cystitis- Bladder spasms are worsened by Mg deficiency.

    Depression-Serotonin, which elevates moods, is dependent on Mg. A Mg-deficient brain is also more susceptible to allergens, foreign substances that can cause symptoms similar to mental illness.

    Detoxification- Mg is crucial for the removal of toxic substances and heavy metals such as aluminum and lead.

    Diabetes- Mg enhances insulin secretion, facilitating sugar metabolism. Without Mg insulin is not able to transfer glucose into cells. Glucose and insulin build up in the blood causing various types of tissue damage.

    Fatigue- Mg-deficient patients commonly experience fatigue because dozens of enzyme systems are under-functioning. An early symptom of Mg deficiency is frequently fatigue.

    Heart disease- Mg deficiency is common in people with heart disease. Mg is administered in hospitals for acute myocardial infarction and cardiac arrhythmia. Like any other muscle, the heart muscle requires Mg. Mg is also used to treat angina, or chest pain.

    Hypertension- With insufficient Mg, spasm of blood vessels and high cholesterol occur, both of which lead to blood pressure problems.

    Hypoglycemia- Mg keeps insulin under control; without Mg episodes of low blood sugar can result.

    Insomnia- Sleep-regulating melatonin production is disturbed without sufficient Mg.

    Kidney Disease- Mg deficiency contributes to atherosclerotic kidney failure. Mg deficiency creates abnormal lipid levels and worsening blood sugar control in kidney transplant patients.

    Liver Disease leading to liver failure- Mg deficiency commonly occurs during liver transplantation.

    Migraine- Serotonin balance is Mg-dependent. Deficiency of serotonin can result in migraine headaches and depression.

    Musculoskeletal conditions- Fibrositis, fibromyalgia, muscle spasms, eye twitches, cramps and chronic neck and back pain may be caused by Mg deficiency and can be relieved with Mg supplements.

    Nerve problems- Mg alleviates peripheral nerve disturbances throughout the whole body, such as migraines, muscle contractions, gastrointestinal spasms, and calf, foot and toe cramps. It is also used in treating central nervous symptoms of vertigo and confusion.

    Obstetrics and Gynecology- Mg prevents Premenstrual Syndrome; prevents dysmenorrhea (cramping pain during menses); is important in the treatment of infertility; and alleviates premature contractions, preeclampsia, and eclampsia in pregnancy. Intravenous Mg is given in obstetrical wards for pregnancy-induced hypertension and to lessen the risk of cerebral palsy and Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS). Mg should be a required supplement for pregnant mothers.

    Osteoporosis- Use of calcium with Vitamin D to enhance calcium absorption without a balancing amount of Mg causes further Mg deficiency, which triggers a cascade of events leading to bone loss.

    Raynaudís Syndrome- Mg helps relax the spastic blood vessels that cause pain and numbness of the fingers.

    Tooth decay- Mg deficiency causes an unhealthy balance of phosphorus and calcium in saliva, which damages teeth. Material excerpted from Dean, Carolyn. The Miracle of Magnesium (2003 Ballantine Books: New York, NY), 2003. pp. 5-7.

    I donít necessarily think a person needs to have their magnesium levels tested before taking magnesium. Itís a very safe mineral that does not build up in the body. If you take ďtoo muchĒ magnesium, you will just get the laxative effect that eliminates the excess. However, if you are on a handful of drugs and ask your doctor if you can take magnesium, they may just say no. Or they will do a standard serum magnesium test, which usually turns up normal.

    Serum magnesium is a very inaccurate measurement of magnesium in the body. Magnesium in the blood stream, AKA serum magnesium, measures only 1% of the total body magnesium; the range is 1.8-3.6mg/dL. When serum magnesium drops, mechanisms in the body push the levels up by dragging magnesium out of the bones and muscles. This is done for a very important reason Ė the heart muscle requires a constant level of magnesium or it will go into spasm Ė AKA a heart attack!

    A somewhat better test is the Magnesium RBC. It may measure 40% of the bodyís total magnesium. The range is 4.2-6.8mg/dL. But donít be fooled into thinking that if your level is 4.2 you have enough magnesium. Someone recently wrote asking my source for the optimum range of magnesium being 6.0-6.5mg/dL. He asked if this tighter range come from research, or did I arrive at it empirically. He also said that his nutritional-metabolic doctors were unaware of using 6 as the floor instead of 4.

    In many states in the USA you can order your own Magnesium RBC blood test without a doctorís prescription. The company that provides this service is Request A Test and the price is $49.00. With your zip code they line you up with a local blood draw lab and you get your results back within 72 hours.

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    Been taking Mag supplements for a about a year now. Not noticed anything major, tbh; I keep myself pretty fit also. Main benefits (for me) seem to be quick healing from any aches pains or sprains, and sleep like a baby most nights. Deep relaxing sleep, that makes me feel good in the mornings.

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    What's the name of the supplement you're taking?...

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    I take a Calcium Citrate, Zinc and Magnesium supplement. They're all in one pill.

    But the magensium in this is only 20% of daily recommended dosage.


    Hence I think I'm low on it......?

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    Sounds maybe 80% low...Heh...

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    Stop wasting your money and just eat 3-4 cloves of garlic a day raw.

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    I was taking magnesium before my recent heart attack ( myocardial infarction) and felt a marked improvement in my energy levels, but am a bit weary of mixing it with my
    heart medicines, (blood thinners etc).
    will ask the specialist on Monday when I see him.

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    Good info.

    I had low level but very annoying lower back pain for 5 years, and all two doctors could offer me was an Xray to check for structural damage, and anti-inflammatory tablets.....which half worked.
    Finally I took magnesium and about a week later I suddenly realized I was mostly ok.

    That was about 6 years ago, and I'm still mostly ok.

    Tablets with magnesium oxide are crap. It is the least readily-absorbed form. I take tablets with 4 different forms of MG to cover my bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    What's the name of the supplement you're taking?...
    It's this one: https://th.iherb.com/pr/Solgar-Magnesium-Citrate-120-Tablets/64171

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    ^ Cheers...

    "Magnesium citrate is used medicinally as a saline laxative and to completely empty the bowel prior to a major surgery or colonoscopy. It is available without a prescription, both as a generic and under various brand names including Citromag and Citroma. It is also used in the pill form as a magnesium dietary supplement. It contains 11.23% magnesium by weight. Compared to trimagnesium citrate, it is much more water-soluble, less alkaline, and contains less magnesium."

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    Will have to ask around about more types...Some say that magnesium bisglycinate (or simply magnesium glycinate) are comparable, though there is a fair bit of argument over absorbability and other factors, including some of the companies mixing other stuff in "the blend," like magnesium oxide (less cost) without letting you know...

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    A few bananas a day helps with your magnesium content and provide a great source of energy.

    Interesting article,,,

    https://draxe.com/magnesium-deficien...s-must-eating/

    Top 10 Magnesium Rich Foods Plus Proven Benefits

    Are You Getting Enough Magnesium-Rich Foods?

    Magnesium deficiency is dramatically under-diagnosed because it doesn’t show up on a blood test! Only 1 percent of the magnesium in your body is stored in your blood, and the majority of it’s stored in your bones.
    Some of the main health challenges that have been linked to a magnesium deficiency include:

    • Hormone imbalance and PMS
    • Fibromyalgia
    • Heart attack
    • Type 2 diabetes
    • Osteoporosis
    • Constipation
    • Tension or migraine headaches
    • Anxiety and depression
    • Chronic fatigue

    As you can see, increasing your intake of high magnesium foods is essential to your health.

    How to Increase Your Magnesium Intake

    If you think you might be low in magnesium, your best way to address this issue is to start consuming foods that are high in magnesium.
    Buying foods from your local farmers market and foods that are grown organically may have higher levels of magnesium. The soil from conventional farms is depleted of magnesium because they don’t rotate their crops or let the land rest. Also, they typically only put nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium back in the soil, but leave out magnesium.
    Typically, the foods you’ll find that are highest in magnesium are green leafy vegetables, which are packed with chlorophyll. Chlorophyll is known as the “life blood” of a plant and has the ability to absorb the sun’s light and turn it into energy.
    One major difference between human blood and chlorophyll is that human blood has iron at the center of the cell, but plants have magnesium at the center of the cell.

    Top 10 Magnesium Rich Foods

    Green leafy vegetables aren’t the only foods rich in magnesium and chlorophyll. Here are the top 10 foods high in magnesium that you will want to add into your diet.
    (Men RDA 400 milligrams and Women RDA 310 milligrams a day)

    1. Spinach — 1 cup: 157 milligrams (40% DV)
    2. Chard — 1 cup: 154 milligrams (38% DV)
    3. Pumpkin seeds — 1/8 cup: 92 milligrams (23% DV)
    4. Yogurt or Kefir — 1 cup: 50 milligrams (13% DV)
    5. Almonds — 1 ounce: 80 milligrams (20% DV)
    6. Black Beans — Ĺ cup: 60 milligrams (15% DV)
    7. Avocado — 1 medium: 58 milligrams (15% DV)
    8. Figs — Ĺ cup: 50 milligrams (13% DV)
    9. Dark Chocolate — 1 square: 95 milligrams (24% DV)
    10. Banana — 1 medium: 32 milligrams (8% DV)

    Other foods that are also high in magnesium include: salmon, coriander, cashews, goat cheese and artichokes.

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    Cheers, Chitty...

    However:



    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    One of the highest sources of magnesium is kelp, but one tsp. only has about 30 milligrams. One tablespoon of almonds has 33 milligrams. Because we probably don’t get nearly enough magnesium from our diet we have to investigate magnesium supplements.
    Plus, I think that the magnesium glycinate form may be more readily absorbable...

    I'm not knocking the power of the foods in their natural form, but with some stuff you'd have to take a few barrow loads to meet the standard...

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    I've been eating three bananas a day and 200 grams of Almonds for the last five days and the difference is amazing.

    Probably cheaper to take the supplements in the long run though.

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    ^ Good to hear you're noticing the difference...I've always eaten bananas...In sports, they were the "cure" for cramps, etcetera...But things are more refined, if you will, than they were in the old days...Much more knowledge, and facts, too...And much of it is not well known...

    Probably, most of the foodstuffs are shite, as well...

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    Hope your not drinking and smoking whilst taking your supplements.

    Supplements are a rip off and its been proven time and time again,though the gullible keep buying them.

    Carry on getting a kick from the Placebo effect.

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    Do you take anything other than "the piss," Chico?...Heh...

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    I thought it was Earl who took the piss




    Making this popular comfort food suitable for a low-carb diet starts with the buns. It took me several attempts to finally make a bun that is fluffy and tastes just like bread. My keto buns are one of the most popular recipes in the KetoDiet app and I recently shared it on my blog. This recipe shows how you can make a delicious keto-friendly burger!
    Here are some of my favourite burger fillings:


    • ham & cheese
    • crunchy BLT
    • tuna with mayo and onion
    • slow-cooked meat with mayo / soured cream dressing
    • crispy bacon & avocado

    What's your favourite burger filling? :-)
    Hands-on10 minutesOverall15 minutes

    Nutritional values (per serving)

    Total Carbs 17.5 grams
    Fiber 9.6 grams
    Net Carbs 7.9 grams
    Protein 30.6 grams
    Fat 55.5 grams
    of which Saturated 13.5 grams
    Energy (calories) 664 kcal
    Magnesium 124 mg (31%)
    Potassium 857 mg (43%)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Do you take anything other than "the piss," Chico?...Heh...
    I eat natural foods,that have benefits....Heh...

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    Piss has loads of benefits...On this forum, anyway...Think of the magical Golden Shower...Good for yer skin...That's what a friend said...But magnesium piss is probably better for a fella like you...Heh...

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    Just off to eat my Garlic.

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    Is she from Nana?...Probably filled with "nutrients"...555...

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    The tablets I take (and swear by) contain :

    Magnesium amino acid chelate
    Magnesium phosphate
    magnesium aspartate
    magnesium orotate

    Once again, I'd like to state that anything with magnesium oxide is crap. I asked a chemist why the hell Blackmores (a famous and well-respected Australian brand) make tablets which contain magnesium oxide, together with one or two other forms.
    He replied : "it's cheap to make".

    Magnesium is found in many different foods. However soil is often deficient in it, and we absorb it less readily as we age.
    Plus, an optimal dose (350 mg / day) will act as an anti-inflammatory. If you have tight muscles in your lower back, you may be like me and have a disc slowly leaking it's internal gel. Which causes inflammation in the surrounding muscles for up to 10 years.

    It also stops heart palpitations. I recommended it to one of our TD members years ago and he reported his palpitations stopped. Naturopaths call it "The Great Relaxer".

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    ^Probably explains why I sleep well on it. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Stop wasting your money and just eat 3-4 cloves of garlic a day raw.
    And have no close friends?

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    Shouldn't need to take supplements unless you are lacking. A balanced diet and you're okay. Anything in excess supplied as a supplement will just be expelled naturally as being no good.

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