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    Sleep

    The title says it all. We all need sleep.

    Do we get enough?

    I suspect a lot of the members on the board do not get enough adequate, real, REM, sleep.

    I don't.

    I can go to bed early and fall asleep. But I wake up 2 hours too early most mornings. I try to shut my mind down which has been activated, thinking wasteful thoughts about tasks to be done, and what my relationship with someone is. Sports, news, you name it.

    I call this: wasteful thinking.

    Once my mind is activated, it's like I'm ready to go - to get up.

    But it's too early. I'm deprived of sleep.

    No stress (that I know of), no diet issues, no extra caffeine.

    I don't know why.


    But what I can do is attempt....to sleep better


    Questions for members:


    1. how much sleep do you get?

    2. Have your sleep patterns changed?

    3. Do you get enough sleep?

    4. Do you take a nap?

    5. Do you do anything to aid your sleep?

    6. Do you take any supplements (e.g. melatonin)?

    7. Do you take any natural things (e.g. Chamomile tea)?


    Over to you.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    5. Do you do anything to aid your sleep?
    Reading your posts usually does the trick...

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    Is there no youtube vid for guidance?

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    ^
    I fell asleep reading that!

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    555..Sleeplessness is often due to a lack of exercise. Ergo I would hazard a guess that the OP does not have a sleeping partner?

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    Advanced Sleep Phase Syndrome

    Within the hypothalamus of the brain a circadian rhythm (or “body clock”) controls the timing of sleep and wakefulness. It works by synchronizing sleep (and other biological processes) with the light/dark cycle. Circadian rhythm disorders occur when a person gets the correct quantity and quality of sleep but at undesired times i.e. their “body clock” is out of sync. One example of a circadian rhythm disorder is Advanced Sleep Phase Disorder (ASPD), which is characterized by early evening bedtimes (approximately 8-9pm) and early morning awakenings (approximately 4-5am). It contrasts with Delayed Sleep Phase Disorder (DSPS) which is associated with late bedtimes (between 1-6am) and late awakenings (between 10-2am). The estimated prevalence of ASPD is 1% and it is most commonly seen in older adults. Individuals suffering from ASPD can often feel isolated because their overwhelming drive to sleep can render them unable to participate in occupational, family or social activities in the evening hours.

    The exact cause of ASPD is not completely understood. However, there appears to be a strong genetic link, with sufferers having a 50% chance of passing it onto their children. Whether a sufferer needs medical treatment depends on their personal circumstances. The disorder itself is not necessarily dangerous or unhealthy. Some sufferers are able to achieve the correct amount of sleep if their family and work routines allow them to go to bed early and wake early. However, with some sufferers, their family and work routines render it impossible to go to bed early and as a result they experience sleep deprivation. If ASPD is causing sleep deprivation then you should consult your doctor because it can have a negative impact on both physical and mental health.



    https://www.sleepassociation.org/pat...hase-syndrome/


    This is me. I have been an early sleeper/riser all of my life but as I have gotten older, I wake 4-5 am. Doesn't cause a problem for me, as I can still sleep 7-8 hours and get chores done in the cool of the morning. If the weather turns cooler, I sleep later. Both my father and his mother were the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas View Post
    555..Sleeplessness is often due to a lack of exercise. Ergo I would hazard a guess that the OP does not have a sleeping partner?
    I exercise, but lately it's been erratic days of exercise due to work schedule.

    I have a partner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenR View Post
    The Role of Insomnia
    The primary cause of difficulty staying asleep near morning is insomnia, which is defined as difficulty falling or staying asleep, and is frequently associated with early morning awakenings. These awakenings may occur throughout the night, but they tend to be more frequent in the second half of the night, due to a diminishing ability to sleep toward the morning hours.

    The ability to sleep is linked to two processes, one called the homeostatic sleep drive and the other being the circadian rhythm (which will be discussed more later).
    This IS, my problem.

    Awakening way too early. Last night I went to bed at 9:45 pm, and I woke up at 4 am and have been up since then.

    Thanks for the additional info, also, StevenR

    Also, thank you to misskit for your info.

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    Mabe you worry too much about them red blobs

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    Beer after 5PM is the sleep killer for me. Will always wake up at 2 or 3 AM. Days I don't imbibe I sleep like a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conche View Post
    Mabe you worry too much about them red blobs
    It's passive aggressive behavior from posters who actually love me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thailazer View Post
    Beer after 5PM is the sleep killer for me. Will always wake up at 2 or 3 AM. Days I don't imbibe I sleep like a baby.
    I do imbib regularly. Almost every night I have beers and a couple Gin & Tonics from about 5 to 9.

    This is something that will not stop. I get too bored if I don't imbib.

    Maybe that's sounds like an excuse or means I'm been shallow, but that is my situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Conche View Post
    Mabe you worry too much about them red blobs
    Maybe he worries too much about EVERY fucking thing.

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    A little alcohol doesn't bother me, but a cup of coffee, a glass of iced tea, or a Mountain Dew in the afternoon will keep me wide awake. Shocking how sensitive I am to caffine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskit View Post
    A little alcohol doesn't bother me, but a cup of coffee, a glass of iced tea, or a Mountain Dew in the afternoon will keep me wide awake. Shocking how sensitive I am to caffine.
    When at work I have probably, 4-5 cups from morning to afternoon. I make the first 2 at home medium strength and the rest at work, weaker. But it's caffeine nonetheless.

    I also drink at last 1 cup of Green Tea, usually a double-bagger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cujo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Conche View Post
    Mabe you worry too much about them red blobs
    Maybe he worries too much about EVERY fucking thing.
    You have a point.

    Girlfriends have told me many times that I "think about things too much."

    I do.

    I also think too much (a form of minor worry) over things I cannot control.


    This is a mental / thinking issue which I can correct if I put my effort into.

    "wasted thinking" over things I cannot control.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
    I do imbib regularly. Almost every night I have beers and a couple Gin & Tonics from about 5 to 9.

    This is something that will not stop. I get too bored if I don't imbib.

    Maybe that's sounds like an excuse or means I'm been shallow, but that is my situation.
    It seems to me you have a drink problem. Your drink problem could be the cause of your sleep problem.

    "Alcohol might help you nod off, but even just a couple of drinks can affect the quality of your sleep"

    "Even a couple of drinks can interfere with the normal sleep process. When you drink alcohol close to bedtime, you can go straight into deep sleep, missing out on the usual first stage of sleep, called rapid eye movement (REM) sleep."

    In the course of a night you usually have six to seven cycles of REM sleep, which leaves you feeling refreshed. However, if you've been drinking you'll typically have only one to two, meaning you can wake feeling exhausted.
    https://www.drinkaware.co.uk/alcohol...hol-and-sleep/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza View Post
    I do imbib regularly. Almost every night I have beers and a couple Gin & Tonics from about 5 to 9.

    This is something that will not stop. I get too bored if I don't imbib.

    Maybe that's sounds like an excuse or means I'm been shallow, but that is my situation.
    It seems to me you have a drink problem. Your drink problem could be the cause of your sleep problem.
    Not a problem. I enjoy it.

    It does not qualify any of the criteria for problem, except for one: I do not want to stop these sessions.

    I'll be meeting mates today at 5 pm for beers.

    I do think the booze is a part of the sleep issue.

    Thank you for the info on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Last night I went to bed at 9:45 pm, and I woke up at 4 am and have been up since then.
    Nothing wrong with that...6 full hours of sleep...I'd be up at 3...

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    Cut out the caffeine and green tea...it too contains caffeine. Just try it....it won't kill you.

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    If you are tired and go to bed at 9pm and wake at 3am then your body has had what it needs .

    I dont think thats too much to worry about , whats more annoying is when you go to bed at whatever time and cannot get to sleep........

    How old is your mattress ? ????? ?

    Well change her for a younger model then !

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Nothing wrong with that...6 full hours of sleep...I'd be up at 3...
    Chinese idiom?

    6 for a man
    7 for a woman
    8 for a fool

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    ^ That's good...And a foolish woman?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    Last night I went to bed at 9:45 pm, and I woke up at 4 am and have been up since then.
    Nothing wrong with that...6 full hours of sleep...I'd be up at 3...
    But I feel tired.

    I might have sleep apnea (only way to check I suppose, is to get tested somehow).

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