Thread: Fasting

I once read the life story of the late and Great Light heavy weight World Champion Archie Moore who always had problems in making the weight for his fights ,one of his methods was to just chew and chew and get every bit of juice out of the steak he was eating and then spit the meat out , he said this was an unbelievable strain on his will power not to swallow

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Just seems all a little complicated and unnecessary to me: what's wrong or so difficult about just sticking to a healthy and balanced diet?

That being said whatever floats your boat to where you want it to go I guess.

Why do you say "unnecessary"? Fasting to lose weight is the not the only motivation by far. I found a lot of links showing very fit people, of both sexes, doing these long fasts. What for? Have you thought about what's floating in your boat?

I think it's some primitive biology still with us from when we used to be hunters and gatherers.

I mean, we wouldn't have set meal times..eat when we were lucky to kill a beast...then fast.

I wouldn't fast longer than 2-3 days myself, as I'd worry my metabolism would slow down... but from what I've read, OP is right...fasting is very good for your body.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Why do you say "unnecessary"?

Because whatever your goal - fasting to lose weight or change body composition - you can achieve it by not fasting.

^ agree... 3 days and shooting for 15! Wow..

Mad respect.. I will try for 3 when we get home.

Originally Posted by Lukey1979

and choosing 2 days per week to consume one 500 Calorie meal seems quite manageable.

Most of my said mates consume at least 600 calories per day of beer.

So two days off brings them back to "normal"

A doctor recommended that I should fast. I asked 'will I live longer'? He replied 'no but it'll seem like it'.

Fasting beforehand is supposed to be good if you're going to do a lot of drugs, especially hallucinogens like acid or mushrooms, etc.

Very popular with the gay fraternity also apparently. ..Or is that "fisting.?" I forget.

Fasting before fisting?...Makes sense I suppose...Butters?...

I've 'ERR' fasted on liquid for 4 or 5 days a week many times....

Piece O piss....


Used to break my fast - face down on a table in the Offshore chippy - job done...!

Originally Posted by AntRobertson

Because whatever your goal - fasting to lose weight or change body composition - you can achieve it by not fasting.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Why don't you just eat less to start with?

I guess you can't imagine this then:

Of course, in only drinking water for 40 days, I lost a lot of weight. In total, my weight loss was about 15 kg or 33 pounds. During the first 2 weeks, I lost most of the weight; after that, my weight seemed to stabilize and that was quite comforting actually, because my goal was to heal myself, not to waste away!

into a 40 day water fast she stopped losing weight after day 15 or so!

Probably by 15 days your body would be turning on itself and distroying muscle tissue

shit it starts after 3 days

EATING NOTHING FOR OVER 72 HOURS

The rough part happens after 72 hours of no eating — this is the stage of autophagy. Once the fats are broken down, your body turns to breaking down protein in muscles, essentially wasting away your muscles. At this point, your brain’s requirement for glucose will have dropped from 120 grams per day to only 30 grams. But your brain will need to start getting energy from protein next. Breaking down protein and releasing amino acids into the bloodstream will produce more glucose; this transformation takes place in the liver, and your brain will be fueled by its much-needed glucose once again. Regardless, though your brain will be able to survive from protein, your muscles will slowly disappear.

Interestingly, the greatest amount of protein loss occurs during the first 72 hours. Afterward, the body adapts to conserve protein. Essentially, your metabolism slows down so much to the point that your body uses the smallest amount of energy as possible.

Your body may be able to survive for up to three weeks or even up to 70 days, depending on whether you’re also hydrated or have plenty of fat reserves to use up for energy. However, at a certain point, your immune system will be weakened due to lack of vitamins and minerals. Typically, two diseases can occur in end-stage starvation: marasmus and kwashiorkor. Marasmus is a form of severe malnutrition and energy deficiency, characterized by loss of muscle mass and edema, or stomach bloating. Kwashiorkor is the most common form of malnutrition in developing countries, caused by not getting enough protein and also characterized by fatigue, edema, and decreased muscle mass.

Originally Posted by BaitongBoy

Fook, that reminds me of the "coffee enema" craze...About 15 years ago, but I bet that "shit" is still offered at these "health spas"...Supposed to do ya good...

Anyone wanna comment on that experience?...Bet there'd be some funny stories if you'd fess up...Heh...

I'm used to drinking my coffee in the morning...

ok, I,ll comment, a few years back my wife and I went to one of these spas in Bangkok, the idea is they give your colon a bloody good flush out of all the nasty in there, they strap you in and stick a nozzle up yer BLURTER ( quite a cute bird inserted it by the way and I got half a Johnson) you then lie back for an hour and watch what comes out of your ass in clear tubes, quite weird it was. We were supposed to come back for 4 more visits but Mrs BLD wasn't exacltly chuffed at loosing her ass cherry and said no fucking way, quite surprised she went for it in the first place as she's quite a traditional Lao bird, personally I reckon I could of got the same result by drinking Chang or some other ordinary Thai beer

There are many misconceptions about fasting, put forth by the big pharma medical profession.

There's much evidence fasting works to cure many diseases, in addition to just keeping a person strong.

Originally Posted by Mr Earl

There are many misconceptions about fasting, put forth by the big pharma medical profession.

There's much evidence fasting works to cure many diseases, in addition to just keeping a person strong.

I do believe some fasting can be healthy by removing crap built up in our system and as well mentally gaining control over our body's unlike most of the population.
I just did a 5 week, fruits, salad, protein shake diet. dropped 6 kilo with weight training 3 days a week and been highly active 7 days a week in extrem heat.
In the past doing 6 days a week weight training l am lucky to see 2 kilo if any weight loss.
Just went to the pub for a few beers and the people l would consider fit looking would be 10% or less.
As a race being healthy we have failed, so something needs to change

Many things come into play here, does he have a job that is physically and mentally taxing or is he sitting at home ? Does he have a family that takes up every waking hour ? I very much doubt he has either, l maybe wrong ?
I know with good diet and training you can change your body in 5 weeks with out starving yourself. Me personally not that impressed with the results showed in his videos

Originally Posted by wjblaney

into a 40 day water fast she stopped losing weight after day 15 or so!

Well not quite stopped, just didn't lose as much.

That's quite normal though no matter what you're doing. Weight loss isn't a lineal process. And...

Originally Posted by Rigger

Probably by 15 days your body would be turning on itself and distroying muscle tissue

...there's that too.

There's 'good' weight loss (i.e. bodyfat) and 'bad' weight loss (i.e. muscle mass). The key is to maximize the former and minimize the latter. I just can't see fasting aids that.

Originally Posted by Rigger

Me personally not that impressed with the results showed in his videos

Yeah me either.

Originally Posted by Rigger

Many things come into play here, does he have a job that is physically and mentally taxing or is he sitting at home ? Does he have a family that takes up every waking hour ? I very much doubt he has either, l maybe wrong ?

I think he's trying to make himself into a youtube star and his goal is to get 1,000,000 subscribers. This is his resume: Actor/Model/Voice-Over Talent

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

loosing her ass cherry

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

I reckon I could of got the same result by drinking Chang or some other ordinary Thai beer

I think some of our board members have lost their arse cherry by drinking chang and some other ordinary thai alcohols

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

ok, I,ll comment, a few years back my wife and I went to one of these spas in Bangkok, the idea is they give your colon a bloody good flush out of all the nasty in there, they strap you in and stick a nozzle up yer BLURTER ( quite a cute bird inserted it by the way and I got half a Johnson) you then lie back for an hour and watch what comes out of your ass in clear tubes, quite weird it was. We were supposed to come back for 4 more visits but Mrs BLD wasn't exacltly chuffed at loosing her ass cherry and said no fucking way, quite surprised she went for it in the first place as she's quite a traditional Lao bird, personally I reckon I could of got the same result by drinking Chang or some other ordinary Thai beer

Did you lose any weight?

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by beerlaodrinker

ok, I,ll comment, a few years back my wife and I went to one of these spas in Bangkok, the idea is they give your colon a bloody good flush out of all the nasty in there, they strap you in and stick a nozzle up yer BLURTER ( quite a cute bird inserted it by the way and I got half a Johnson) you then lie back for an hour and watch what comes out of your ass in clear tubes, quite weird it was. We were supposed to come back for 4 more visits but Mrs BLD wasn't exacltly chuffed at loosing her ass cherry and said no fucking way, quite surprised she went for it in the first place as she's quite a traditional Lao bird, personally I reckon I could of got the same result by drinking Chang or some other ordinary Thai beer

Did you lose any weight?

Please read my post #5 I spoke to my eldest daughter in the UK yesterday, as to how much her late mother lost in weight cos she went with her, my late wife lost just short of 2.5 kilo's and my daughter who is a "big girl" lost 3 (that was by their scales before and after)