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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasher View Post
    Water Machine max resistance.
    How do they compare to air rowers such as Concept 2?

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    Scientifically proven protein is more filling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    How do they compare to air rowers such as Concept 2?
    Only used old air rowers. Water provides more resistance.

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    I swear this wasn’t intentional:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasher
    Scientifically proven protein is more filling.
    Cool story bro.

    A tonne of feathers is as heavy as a tonne of steel. Scientifically proven by science.

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    What is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    Cool story bro.

    A tonne of feathers is as heavy as a tonne of steel. Scientifically proven by science.
    Look it up tool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasher View Post
    What is that?
    The map? It's a route-tracker thing: 'MapMyWalk'.

    It was recommended in another thread but I confused them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dasher View Post
    Look it up tool
    Nah.

    Still a cool story bro.

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    Walking around lost

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    Well no, because I ended up back precisely where I started.

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    I’ve been looking for a rowing machine for ages. Not seen one in gyms I’ve visted or at the places I’ve stayed.
    Looked to buy a used one online but they are pretty rare there too.
    They appeal because of the range of muscle groups they exercise.

    Looking at condos with a gym and pool next month. Maybe I’ll get lucky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    I’ve been looking for a rowing machine for ages. Not seen one in gyms I’ve visted or at the places I’ve stayed.
    Looked to buy a used one online but they are pretty rare there too.
    They appeal because of the range of muscle groups they exercise.

    Looking at condos with a gym and pool next month. Maybe I’ll get lucky.
    Great exercise. Put a good cd on and rip in.

    I bought mine new on sale.

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    I ramped up to 3 x one-hour cycle rides a week and then two rides at the week-end. Completely f**ked me doing this on top of a 50-hour week. Thought I was bloody 30ish again! Thank goodness it is back to Thailand on Sunday and back to hot days, turning full beer glasses into empty ones in slow time. Hope the dog remembers how to open the fridge...

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    Forget BMI. The new way to check if you're obese is to half your height and that should be your maximum waste measurement.

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    ^ just look down, if you can't see ur nutz ur a fatty

    1750 mtrs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    Forget BMI. The new way to check if you're obese is to half your height and that should be your maximum waste measurement.
    Call me old skool again but ......

    This should be enough. A mirror. No apps, no tape measures required.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Call me old skool again but ......

    This should be enough. A mirror. No apps, no tape measures required.



    5555....
    Seems to be in high admiration of himself.


    If one doesn't recognize the grotesque rolly-polly in themselves by then, it's much too late.

    How the fuck do people consciously get like that?


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    Admit you have already.
    We all know what a fraud you are and I have no doubt that you're a fat sweaty oik.
    An abhorrent individual of no value and no worth.
    A waste of space.
    Useless.
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    FOJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle junior View Post
    just look down, if you can't see ur nutz ur a fatty

    1750 mtrs
    Not necessarily.



    1750 mtrs? Should that be mm or 1.75 mtrs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dasher View Post
    Only used old air rowers. Water provides more resistance.
    Actually, the resistance is about the same between both types of machines- 'resistance' is determined by the speed of the person rowing, and both allow changes in feel (water rowers by tank level, air rowers by damper setting)- one isn't any 'harder' than the other (or better). There are many comparison articles that explain the differences between them.

    I've got over 25mil meters on a Concept2 machine (Olympic rowers tend to use it in the off-season, and there's a huge online community), and they're becoming more popular in LOS- I've been seeing them more in gyms lately. I imported mine directly through C2 in the States- this was about eight years ago, but shipping and taxes weren't crazy expensive- I paid something like 35K (maybe closer to 40K) all-in for a Model-D. There's probably a Thailand distributor these days (though I wouldn't be surprised if it's still a better deal to import one yourself.

    One thing C2 does is allow competition between rowers around the world via RowPro software- there are regular seasonal competitions (I finished 8th out of more than 5K rowers for total meters in a challenge several years ago- I averaged over 40K meters per day for 31 straight days- I'll never do that again, but I had to try it once) - I've raced or trained with people from all over the world online in real-time- it's a real motivator.

    Each boat represents a live rower- it's a pretty cool way to train (not my pic- I pulled it off the net- 3:11 is old lady pace):

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    There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
    HST

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna
    Call me old skool again but ......

    This should be enough. A mirror. No apps, no tape measures required
    Yep, 'tis.

    But depends what your goal is also. Comes a point where measurements are the only reliable way to track composition etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe View Post
    Actually, the resistance is about the same between both types of machines- 'resistance' is determined by the speed of the person rowing, and both allow changes in feel (water rowers by tank level, air rowers by damper setting)- one isn't any 'harder' than the other (or better). There are many comparison articles that explain the differences between them.

    I've got over 25mil meters on a Concept2 machine (Olympic rowers tend to use it in the off-season, and there's a huge online community), and they're becoming more popular in LOS- I've been seeing them more in gyms lately. I imported mine directly through C2 in the States- this was about eight years ago, but shipping and taxes weren't crazy expensive- I paid something like 35K (maybe closer to 40K) all-in for a Model-D. There's probably a Thailand distributor these days (though I wouldn't be surprised if it's still a better deal to import one yourself.

    One thing C2 does is allow competition between rowers around the world via RowPro software- there are regular seasonal competitions (I finished 8th out of more than 5K rowers for total meters in a challenge several years ago- I averaged over 40K meters per day for 31 straight days- I'll never do that again, but I had to try it once) - I've raced or trained with people from all over the world online in real-time- it's a real motivator.

    Each boat represents a live rower- it's a pretty cool way to train (not my pic- I pulled it off the net- 3:11 is old lady pace):

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    Interesting post FS. If I were living in a condo or apartment and getting maximum use out of it, I’d probably go for the quieter of the two.
    Do you think the rower represents the best all round exercise value, giving all round muscular and aerobic improvements?
    In my experience the fittest I have ever been was following 3 months of langlauf ski training or 3 months of serious boxing training. Any comparison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    Interesting post FS. If I were living in a condo or apartment and getting maximum use out of it, I’d probably go for the quieter of the two.
    Do you think the rower represents the best all round exercise value, giving all round muscular and aerobic improvements?
    In my experience the fittest I have ever been was following 3 months of langlauf ski training or 3 months of serious boxing training. Any comparison?
    I don't know about skiing, but I trained in Muay Thai for years and nothing beats sparring for a punishing aerobic workout. It will tone you as well, but it won't build much muscle- boxing would be the same.

    I row for an aerobic workout, and also lift at the gym (my schedule allows me to get there most mornings after I drop my kid off at school)- if you wanted to row strictly for muscle gain, it won't do a lot as it doesn't give the same kind of stress as lifting weights- it also works mainly the 'pulling' muscles of the upper body (biceps and back) and doesn't do much for the 'pushing' muscles (chest, shoulders, triceps)- it's very good for legs, of course. For an aerobic exercise, though, it's hard to beat rowing- it's very low-impact, and I was starting to have knee issues from running, and rowing solved that problem. Bicycling it great, but it doesn't really do much at all for upper-body. A good, commercial-quality rower that will last for many years is also pretty cheap compared to a good bicycle.

    For me, the combination of rowing at home and lifting at the gym has worked out pretty well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FailSafe
    One thing C2 does is allow competition between rowers around the world via RowPro software- there are regular seasonal competitions (I finished 8th out of more than 5K rowers for total meters in a challenge several years ago- I averaged over 40K meters per day for 31 straight days- I'll never do that again, but I had to try it once) - I've raced or trained with people from all over the world online in real-time- it's a real motivator.

    Each boat represents a live rower- it's a pretty cool way to train (not my pic- I pulled it off the net- 3:11 is old lady pace):
    So it's online and real-time?

    Not my cup of tea but I've got to admit that's pretty cool.

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    Yes- you can schedule a row hours or days in advance, and people from anywhere can register to take part (it can be a race or just a training session where everyone tries to maintain a certain pace), and it starts at the same time for all rowers (obviously you tend to see people from countries that are somewhat close to your own time-zone). There are also 'leaderboards' (by time and distance) where you can download the prerecorded row of someone ahead of you (provided they uploaded with the RowPro software- maybe a third of rowers use it, but there are thousands of rowers grouped by gender, age, and weight-class) and run against them (though not live, but at their exact pace) in an attempt to pass them.

    It's a good way to stay motivated.

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