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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    HIIT

    21 minutes.

    Fasted HIIT starting at 12:15 pm. Had not eaten any breakfast or any food before.
    So your heart rate was much higher than 120-130 bpm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    So your heart rate was much higher than 120-130 bpm.
    For a short time, yes.

    Up and down with HIIT.

    I'll do it again tomorrow after getting up. Then lift in the afternoon.

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    Been busy.

    Today: HIIT at Noon on a fasted stomach, as I had not eaten since about 7 PM the night before.

    I'm now dropping kilos.

    Your body adapts to IF (Intermittent fasting) and eating smaller meals and less frequently. I do NOT get hungry.

    Happy with my progress in dropping kilos (lbs. in the US). I will continue this goal and journey.

    Still lifting, when work permits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa
    Still lifting, when work permits
    Quote Originally Posted by Cold Pizza
    I'm retired
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    I retired, and then came out of retirement to work.

    I can't golf, fish, and travel the world year-round. I lose focus.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa
    I retired, and then came out of retirement to work.
    You were unemployed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    120-130 the body will utilize fat for energy if your glycogen levels in your liver are depleted --> when you wake up in the morning in a fasted state, or if you have not even in about 3+ hours.

    And yes, there will be disagreement from trainers and BBers on this, as well as "this study said this," but "this study said that.
    I'm not sure where you get your numbers from but the rule of thumb I remember is max heart rate = 200 - your age. Never go above that figure for any length of time. Exercise until you get your heart rate lower for the same routine and then extend. You'll lose weight slowly but safely and feel a lot better for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy View Post
    I'm not sure where you get your numbers from but the rule of thumb I remember is max heart rate = 200 - your age. Never go above that figure for any length of time. Exercise until you get your heart rate lower for the same routine and then extend. You'll lose weight slowly but safely and feel a lot better for it.
    That number is documented in many places. Worth noting is that I'm not dogmatic.

    Basically, workout, eat wisely seleted foods = progress.

    HIIT is supported by numerous studies.

    You go all out (in reality probably 95%) for a short duration. I can only go 20 seconds, then you basically stop. I step off the exercise bike and stand.

    In the beginning (first few minutes) i take a one-minute stoppage/break.

    After about the 11 minute mark I have to wait 1:30 and by about 18:00 2 minute stoppage.

    I do maximum 21 minutes.

    After that your body may tap into muscle.

    You will be breathing heavy as a dog.


    *Do this on a fast (which is not the same as an empty stomach).

    *wait 45 minutes to 1 hour to eat after - no longer than an hour.

    You will also have increased metabolic breakdown for the next 24 hours.


    Note, this is a scientifically proven fact: HIIT will blow away moderate cardio that you do for say 30 to 45 minutes or more.

    I have lost 5.5 kilos in about 2 weeks.


    Edit in:

    Of course, HIIT is only one part of the weight loss.

    As for WOE (way of eating).

    I eat my first meal after 12:00 and I have been eating very low carb. I don't count but probably less than 20 grams per day.
    Last edited by Grampa; 11-12-2017 at 04:21 PM.

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    And to add,

    Today was shoulders.

    Routine: increasing weight every 1 to 2 sets.


    1. Standing DB lat raises - increasing weight every 2 sets - total reps 107

    2. Standing Y-rope pull back X 3

    3. Standing cable bar pull back (3/4 motion only to hit rear delts) X 2

    4. Barbell shrugs (from the rack) to 102 reps

    5. DB shrugs to a total of 152 total reps (gripping was getting hard to do).

    6. Standing plate raise X 3.

    -Raise the plate from your chin, both hands at the side and up over your head. Try not to bend elbows much. You will feel this hitting your upper traps.


    *with the barbell shrugs, after 100 reps, lift up and hold and squeeze for 4 seconds and lower it slowly.

    I did the same the with the DB shrugs for the last few reps.

    I also returned to the barbell rack and did static barbell holds heavy. This stretches your traps. You want to stretch your traps.


    Not done: farmer's walk.


    In about 2 weeks to switch to Reverse Pyramids and do that for 2-3 weeks.

    I did have about 3/4 cup of white rice as a post work out meal.

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    I've been doing the same. The weather has cooled down to the mid-teens so a swim has to be accompanied by a bit of internal motivation (like "harden up, fucker"). I'm not that fast to be sure, but I've got my time for 2K mtrs to just a tick or two under 40 minutes. OK, OK, I'm slow, but hey...

    pues, estamos aqui

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    I just received a repo comment from Neverna saying "you are full of sh*t. "

    Please explain.

    Do you doubt the studies I noted on HIIT, or my lifting routine?

    Your comment is not clear.


    And to further note, I only do HIIT 2-3 times per week in Non-lifting days. And I will only do it once per week when I reach my goal.

    I'm obviously losing kilos also b/c I'm reducing caloric intake - this IS the most - important thing.

    "Diet is everything. "

    Exercise just accelerates it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    I just received a repo comment from Neverna saying "you are full of sh*t. "

    Please explain.

    Your comment is not clear.
    Let me explain it in terms you will understand.

    "you are full of sh*t"
    is proven
    is documented in many places
    this is a scientifically proven fact
    All clear now?

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    No.

    Show data.

    HIIT studies have been done for 15+ years.

    Show us the studies that negate HIIT.

    I'm waiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    No.

    Show data.
    As you are a bit slow upstairs (and possibly drunk), I'll explain it to you. Those quotes are what you have posted in the last 2 pages of this thread. You posted such comments with no data to support your claims. I'm just echoing your BS. You just dismiss comments by others with "it's poven", "it's a fact", "it's documented". Well, sonny, it's documented that you are full of shit. You can find it documented here at Teakdoor. As it's well documented, it must be a "fact" - a Teakdoor fact. Of course, you don't have to like it or agree with it, but that won't change the "facts".

    Have a nice day, Gramps. Off to court tomorow, aren't you? Good luck. Don't forget to take some money with you to buy some KY Jelly in the prison shop.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    As you are a bit slow upstairs (and possibly drunk), I'll explain it to you. Those quotes are what you have posted in the last 2 pages of this thread. You posted such comments with no data to support your claims. I'm just echoing your BS. You just dismiss comments by others with "it's poven", "it's a fact", "it's documented". Well, sonny, it's documented that you are full of shit. You can find it documented here at Teakdoor. As it's well documented, it must be a "fact" - a Teakdoor fact. Of course, you don't have to like it or agree with it, but that won't change the "facts".

    Have a nice day, Gramps. Off to court tomorow, aren't you? Good luck. Don't forget to take some money with you to buy some KY Jelly in the prison shop.

    I have been reading about and DOING - HIIT - on and off for over 10 years and you say I am lying?

    No, you show that HIIT fasted does not work.

    Why don't you? B/c you cannot.


    You don't know sh*t.

    You do not even workout, b/c you've never posted single fucking contribution on this thread except to say "bullshit."


    Typical lazy TDer.

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    Gramps, old man. Why the fuck are you rabbitting on about HIIT? I haven't mentioned it. It's you that's talking about HIIT. Not me. Calm down, lad, calm down.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    You do not even workout
    Got any proof of that, Milky Black Fart the multinicker?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    you've never posted single fucking contribution on this thread except to say "bullshit."
    Now that is not true. Was that a deliberate lie or are you intoxicated again?

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    You're a troll who is an admin here.

    You are another reason why TD is shit.

    Fuck off [at][at][at][at].

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    You're a troll who is an admin here.

    You are another reason why TD is shit.

    Fuck off [at][at][at][at].
    Isn't it time for you to change nics? Barbara, Snatch, Black Fart, Cold Pizza, Grampa. Pick a better one next time. Loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa
    You do not even workout
    He probably gets more exercise than you do.

    Cut 'n pasting your dribble on here doesn't burn many calories.

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    I'm usually the only Farang in the gym but today this Farang bint rolled up.

    The gym is full of machines which i prefer over free weights simply because you are made to use the correct technique, this avoids injury if not being silly and going to heavy.

    So I work out in 60 second breaks one machine at a time, the bint decides to jump in between my 60 second break and fuks with the weights.

    Says fok all, just barges in there.

    Nasty Farang eh, no wonder i don't like em.

    Just thought Id share.

    Thanks eh.

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    Thank you for contributing, Terry.

    Much appreciated.

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    ^ Good morning! What time are you in court today, Gramps?

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