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    You will die in prison from Anal fisting. Quit telling fibs about exercise and get your anus stretched in preparation. You will still bleed to death from the fissures, just much more slowly and painfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switch View Post
    You will die in prison from Anal fisting. Quit telling fibs about exercise and get your anus stretched in preparation. You will still bleed to death from the fissures, just much more slowly and painfully.
    Bad news for you, troll.

    I'm gonna beat the rap.

    The DA wants to keep charging me with negligent driving in a plea deal. I say - I tell my lawyer "no."

    They don't have a strong case. Dec 12th. We will know. They may drop it.


    And I'd like to say to you: F-off!

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    Here's Switch's contribution to this thread.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_co...&v=c03CGhbuby0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    medium paced walk for 44 minutes. I didn't check the heart beat more than 5 seconds, but knew I was over 120 HBP.
    If your heart rate is at 120 BPM (what the fuck is HBP) from walking then you're clearly in very poor shape.

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    Hey pissflaps, you bigmouthed fool, why dont you post that half naked selfie over here, the rear end baboon butt underpants beefcake shot thats all over the other forum. I bet you nearly cricked your neck taking it.

    This thread needs a good laugh, and you are the oaf we love to laugh at.

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    ... aren't you supposed to be pretending to have me on ignore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AntRobertson View Post
    If your heart rate is at 120 BPM (what the fuck is HBP) from walking then you're clearly in very poor shape.
    You're asking "what is HPB" but then saying, "you're clearly in poor shape."

    Let me explain it to you, numbnutz.

    HBP = Heart Beats Per (minute) that same a HBM. Both are used.

    I walk at a pace to keep my heart beat per minute between 120 and 130. I don't want to go over 130 on certain days.

    On nonlifting days I sometimes go HIIT or above 130 to 140ish.

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    What do you estimate your maximum heart rate to be, Gramps?

    And what is a typical resting heart rate for you? (nowadays mine is between 42 and 45)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa
    medium paced walk
    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa
    I walk at a pace to keep my heart beat per minute between 120 and 130.
    Are you morbidly obsese.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    You're asking "what is HPB" but then saying, "you're clearly in poor shape."

    Let me explain it to you, numbnutz.

    HBP = Heart Beats Per (minute) that same a HBM...
    So what is "HPB"?

    (Answer that makes sense appreciated)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    What do you estimate your maximum heart rate to be, Gramps?

    And what is a typical resting heart rate for you? (nowadays mine is between 42 and 45)
    I don't know my resting heart rate.

    Give me a week and I shall report it to you.


    I only check heart rate when doing fat usage cardio which I want above 120 but below 130 per minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrille View Post
    So what is "HPB"?

    (Answer that makes sense appreciated)
    The question was answered.


    I know you're an English teacher and you likely have low mental capabilities.

    But think about what I posted in response to the query you are addressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    I don't know my resting heart rate.

    Give me a week and I shall report it to you.


    I only check heart rate when doing fat usage cardio which I want above 120 but below 130 per minute.
    Fair enough, but why do you choose those numbers? What are they based on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    I don't know my resting heart rate.

    Give me a week and I shall report it to you.


    I only check heart rate when doing fat usage cardio which I want above 120 but below 130 per minute.
    See, this is where the gap between what you cut 'n paste and your actual lack of knowledge becomes most apparent.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Fair enough, but why do you choose those numbers? What are they based on?
    120-130 the body will utilize fat for energy if your glycogen levels in your liver are depleted --> when you wake up in the morning in a fasted state, or if you have not even in about 3+ hours.

    And yes, there will be disagreement from trainers and BBers on this, as well as "this study said this," but "this study said that.

    One thing that is agreed upon is that cardio at 120-130 HBP for 30 minutes after an intense lifting session will not cause you to lose muscle b/c the glycogen stores in the liver are depleted b/c they were used to fuel the lifting workout.

    If I eat a meal and wait and hour or 1 1/2 hour to do cardio, I can do high level cardio, or HIIT and use the carbs in the food for fuel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    120-130 the body will utilize fat for energy if your glycogen levels in your liver are depleted --> when you wake up in the morning in a fasted state, or if you have not even in about 3+ hours.
    I don't think it's quite as simple as that, Gramps. But if that works for you, fair enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    One thing that is agreed upon is that cardio at 120-130 HBP for 30 minutes after an intense lifting session will not cause you to lose muscle b/c the glycogen stores in the liver are depleted b/c they were used to fuel the lifting workout.
    I'm interested in your "depleted glycogen" comments. Is it important for you to be in such a state before doing cardio? (If so, why?) Or is it just coincidental because you usually do cardio after a heavy gym session?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    I'm interested in your "depleted glycogen" comments. Is it important for you to be in such a state before doing cardio? (If so, why?) Or is it just coincidental because you usually do cardio after a heavy gym session?
    Since (almost) nobody believes a word I say, I'll post some articles/studies.

    And to preface, do some form of cardio on an AM wake without breakfast (which is a fast) and you will indeed notice more fat disappearing.

    Here is an article:

    The Fat Burning Mechanism – Glycogen Depletion


    Cardiovascular Fitness, Lose Fat

    A large number of people go to the gym, hoping they will burn fat and lose excess weight, without even knowing how the “fat-burning” mechanism actually works. If you want to lose fat, it is absolutely important to know what the body uses as energy source.

    Our body uses glycogen as a primary source of energy. Glycogen is actually the storage form of glucose (carbohydrates) in animals and humans.It is stored in the liver and muscles.When there is no glycogen available, the body will reach for its secondary energy source – stored fat and muscle protein.

    An average person has to do about 30-40 minutes of moderate intensity cardio in order to burn the stored glycogen. This means that if you do cardio for an hour, you are burning fat only the last 20 to 30 minutes, while the first 30-40 minutes you are only depleting your glycogen stores.

    There are a few ways to burn mostly fat when you do your cardio workout:

    –Do morning cardio or fasted cardio sessions.When your body goes longer periods without food (like fasting or 8-9 hour sleep) it depletes glycogen in order to sustain itself.This is why morning cardio will burn mostly fat.It is a good idea to take a protein shake or
    BCAA prior to the workout to prevent muscle breakdown.


    –Work with weights before the cardio session.Weight training is a glycogen depleting activity and it is a good practice to do your weight workout before the cardiovascular workout.


    –Modify your diet and lower the amount of carbohydrates you are consuming. This way the body will not have excess carbohydrates that can be stored as glycogen, so even light activities will burn fat.Many diets are built around the idea of reduction of carbs – just take the Atkins diet for example (lots of protein and fats, but almost no carbs)

    Knowing what glycogen is and how your body uses it will certainly help you maximize your cardio sessions to burn the maximum amount of fat, but this is not the only factor that comes into play when trying to lose fat. Below are a few other tips that will help you to lose fat.


    http://www.fitnessandpower.com/training/cardiovascular-fitness/the-fat-burning-mechanism-glycogen-depletion


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    ^ please note: I disagree that you need to take a protein shake before a fast AM cardio to keep your body from eating into muscle.

    But of course, this is ( as usual) disputed.

    *Taking a BCAAs will cause an INSULINE SPIKE! Avoid BCAAs if you want to burn off / use fat as an energy! It's been proven!

    Our ancestors were foraging and hunting for food. Our bodies did not and do not have a stop-watch saying, "oh we need protein or a protein shake.

    Again, you decide.


    Look at the science, NOT "Bro science" which has no been debunked.

    Google "Bro science."

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    Here's why I do 120 to 130 PBP at certain times. Because I'm in a fasted state and want to use fat as an energy source and not carbs/glycogen/muscle:

    Best of Both

    While changing nutritional strategies can lead to a switch in your main fuel source, you will always burn both carbs and fat during exercise. One of the main factors, aside from diet, that influences the ratio of fat burning to carb burning is exercise intensity. At low intensities your body will turn to fat for energy, but as you start to train harder, it will switch to burning more glycogen, notes Dr. Edward Coyle of the Gatorade Sports Science Institute.

    Entire article:

    https://www.livestrong.com/article/3...t-vs-glycogen/

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    ^How much yard time they giving you per week, convict?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    Here's why I do 120 to 130 PBP at certain times. Because I'm in a fasted state and want to use fat as an energy source and not carbs/glycogen/muscle:

    Best of Both

    While changing nutritional strategies can lead to a switch in your main fuel source, you will always burn both carbs and fat during exercise. One of the main factors, aside from diet, that influences the ratio of fat burning to carb burning is exercise intensity. At low intensities your body will turn to fat for energy, but as you start to train harder, it will switch to burning more glycogen, notes Dr. Edward Coyle of the Gatorade Sports Science Institute.
    The important thing is the intensity, not the heart rate per se. Yes, they are related to some extent, but to pick 120-130 bpm just because you read it somewhere, makes no sense at all. But if it's 120-130 because for you that is low intensity, then that's OK. For some people 130 would not be low intensity. For some it would.

    One other point I'd make is that, IMVHO, you're more at risk of injury when you train with muscles that have been depleted of glycogen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    The important thing is the intensity, not the heart rate per se. Yes, they are related to some extent, but to pick 120-130 bpm just because you read it somewhere, makes no sense at all. But if it's 120-130 because for you that is low intensity, then that's OK. For some people 130 would not be low intensity. For some it would.

    One other point I'd make is that, IMVHO, you're more at risk of injury when you train with muscles that have been depleted of glycogen.
    For cardio I do real walking (around the neighborhood), stationary bike and treadmill. Very simple, low impact.

    The HPB 120 to 130 is proven. I don't want to go into aenorobic zones most of the time.

    The glycogen depletion occurs during the workout, so by the end of the workout it's depleted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grampa View Post
    Since (almost) nobody believes a word I say
    Gee, I wonder why that could be.

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    Earlier today: Chest & Tri

    Yesterday: Back & Bi


    Pretty much the same exercises with increased weight.

    Will vary things up exercise-wise in 2 week.

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    Today:

    HIIT

    21 minutes.

    Fasted HIIT starting at 12:15 pm. Had not eaten any breakfast or any food before.

    Waited 45 minutes after finishing to eat 3 whole eggs and a small cup of yoghurt (no sugar, no sweetner).

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