Thread: Health, fitness and hospitalization of the boomers

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I too occasionally take Tramadol 50mg. I never take more, due to it being addictive. It kills my pains and gives me a feeling of elation. I used to take anti-depressants years ago. If only I'd known about Tramadol then.

I've had three operations on my left hip in the last two years. For pain they gave me Tramadol which did not help in the least. I felt no euphoria either. Paracetamol was the only thing that gave me any relief. I still take 10 tablets a day.

I have decided I am going to become head of the NHS in UK. My first act will be to divide hospitalisation into 2 different hospital types.

Type one - Under 50s only
Medical treatment will be determined by clinical need and you will be treated based on your working life. If you have always worked, and include staying at home to raise children, you will get a business class service. If you have never worked you will get a bed near the laundry or the boiler house and the medical staff will only speak in order to interrogate you.

Type 2 Over 50s

Based on clinical needs, your hospital experience will be akin to a shopping mall. There will be medical services as usual, but this is intended to be a cohesive and holistic experience. Free access to onsite swimming, gym, sauna and spa services in order to accelerate your recovery. Social clubs for the benefit of your mental health and relaxation. Free sports and movies plus in house shopping services and free live weekly Cabaret. Facilities will be provided for prolonged family visits, if desired.

All ancillary services, porterage, laundry, cleaning and pan bashing will be provided by those over 50s needing treatment, but having failed contribute to the system since leaving school.

All visitors from outside the UK will need to provide adequate health insurance for the duration of their stay.

These conditions may sound a little harsh but any one not qualified and in need of essential life saving treatment will be treated follwed by repatriation at their own expense or return to their bedsit in Slough. Followed by a medical bill of course.

Job jobbed. Other countries may feel free to use this idea without infringing copyright or patent law.

Originally Posted by Humbert

For pain they gave me Tramadol which did not help in the least

Not disbelieving you Humbert but are you sure it was Tramadol they gave you and not Tynanol. Similar names, both used for pain relief.

Originally Posted by terry57

I have been retired 18 months now and residing in Thailand

Every 6 months I return to Perth for a few weeks to sort things and stay in the loop.

Whilst there I have all my usual blood checks and what not done.

Doctor says everything is better then when I was working and living in Perth.

Good that innit.

Very good that it is. I've the feeling Thailand is cleaner than California even. Doctors there have confirmed my Thai doctors' diagnoses, the food just looks, tastes and I like it better in LOS. I breathe easier here. Prolly, for both of us, it's the reduction of stress due to the fucking worries of work that are traditional in the capitalization oriented companies of the Western world.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Not disbelieving you Humbert but are you sure it was Tramadol they gave you and not Tynanol.

Absolutely. I was in the hospital for two months for my last operations and they gave it to me every 5 hours. It had no effect but when I took para the pain subsided. I had several discussions with my MDs about it.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I too occasionally take Tramadol 50mg. I never take more, due to it being addictive. It kills my pains and gives me a feeling of elation. I used to take anti-depressants years ago. If only I'd known about Tramadol then.

I've had three operations on my left hip in the last two years. For pain they gave me Tramadol which did not help in the least. I felt no euphoria either. Paracetamol was the only thing that gave me any relief. I still take 10 tablets a day.

Not really surprising since people react differently to the same medication, particularly pain medications. I sure hope the 10 paracetamol are not 500mg each which would mean you are taking 5 grams daily. The maximum daily dose is 4 grams and some experts say it should not be more than 3 grams per day due to the hepatotoxicity. If you are taking 5 grams per day you may want to have your liver enzymes checked or reduce the daily dose. I was involved with many acetaminophen overdoses and they are not pretty.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I too occasionally take Tramadol 50mg. I never take more, due to it being addictive. It kills my pains and gives me a feeling of elation. I used to take anti-depressants years ago. If only I'd known about Tramadol then.

I've had three operations on my left hip in the last two years. For pain they gave me Tramadol which did not help in the least. I felt no euphoria either. Paracetamol was the only thing that gave me any relief. I still take 10 tablets a day.

Not really surprising since people react differently to the same medication, particularly pain medications. I sure hope the 10 paracetamol are not 500mg each which would mean you are taking 5 grams daily. The maximum daily dose is 4 grams and some experts say it should not be more than 3 grams per day due to the hepatotoxicity. If you are taking 5 grams per day you may want to have your liver enzymes checked or reduce the daily dose. I was involved with many acetaminophen overdoses and they are not pretty.

I've discussed this with my doctor. The maximum dosage is determined by weight. My MD said I should not exceed 12 tablets per day. For months prior to my surgeries and before being diagnosed for an infection in my prosthetic joint I was living in intolerable pain. I think the only thing that would have brought me relief was morphine but they wouldn't give me that so I just lived with the agony.

Originally Posted by Boon Mee

For all those aches and pains Boomers get, Alieve is real good stuff.

Can't get it here in LOS but if you know a "merkin coming over, ask them to bring a bottle.

Love that Booners...a "Merkin Coming over"... Want me to bring you a 55 Gallon drum of the little blue pills.

Rick C is right however, it can already be purchased in TL under Naproxen Sodium. Advil can as well. Ibuprofen. They are Pinkish colored pills and 900 mgs.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by terry57

I have been retired 18 months now and residing in Thailand

Every 6 months I return to Perth for a few weeks to sort things and stay in the loop.

Whilst there I have all my usual blood checks and what not done.

Doctor says everything is better then when I was working and living in Perth.

Good that innit.

Very good that it is. I've the feeling Thailand is cleaner than California even. Doctors there have confirmed my Thai doctors' diagnoses, the food just looks, tastes and I like it better in LOS. I breathe easier here. Prolly, for both of us, it's the reduction of stress due to the fucking worries of work that are traditional in the capitalization oriented companies of the Western world.

Yeah, same here as Terry and WJ. I was in tip top shape in Thailand when there. Food was better. I ate smaller portions. I had more time to do things right. Stress was gone, no financial worries. Slept better. Rode my bike 10- 15 miles a day. etc. Now....well back here in California and fighting the masses but I see light at the end of the conveyor belt.

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

Originally Posted by Humbert

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

I too occasionally take Tramadol 50mg. I never take more, due to it being addictive. It kills my pains and gives me a feeling of elation. I used to take anti-depressants years ago. If only I'd known about Tramadol then.

I've had three operations on my left hip in the last two years. For pain they gave me Tramadol which did not help in the least. I felt no euphoria either. Paracetamol was the only thing that gave me any relief. I still take 10 tablets a day.

Not really surprising since people react differently to the same medication, particularly pain medications. I sure hope the 10 paracetamol are not 500mg each which would mean you are taking 5 grams daily. The maximum daily dose is 4 grams and some experts say it should not be more than 3 grams per day due to the hepatotoxicity. If you are taking 5 grams per day you may want to have your liver enzymes checked or reduce the daily dose. I was involved with many acetaminophen overdoses and they are not pretty.

I've discussed this with my doctor. The maximum dosage is determined by weight. My MD said I should not exceed 12 tablets per day. For months prior to my surgeries and before being diagnosed for an infection in my prosthetic joint I was living in intolerable pain. I think the only thing that would have brought me relief was morphine but they wouldn't give me that so I just lived with the agony.

Prag, you may want to discuss it with another physician. The only time acetaminophen is dosed by body weight is in children and that should go for all medications given to a child. I doubt you are a child and the maximum daily dose for ALL adults is 4 grams (4000mg). In fact the makers of Tylenol just lowered that maximum to 3 grams (3000mg) per day.

I am just trying to save your liver.

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Love that Booners...a "Merkin Coming over"... Want me to bring you a 55 Gallon drum of the little blue pills.

Rick C is right however, it can already be purchased in TL under Naproxen Sodium. Advil can as well. Ibuprofen. They are Pinkish colored pills and 900 mgs.

Being a doper from California, I cannot believe the thread now includes posts about Alieve, aspirin, acetaminofen, Ibupfrofen, etc.

How did I forget Advil?

More ibuprofen. I found ibuprofen 800mg to work best for my aches and pains. Again you need to eat some food before taking it.

^ I'll take 2000 mg of Tylenol or Ibuprofen (usually for a hangover). Is that dangerous?

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Love that Booners...a "Merkin Coming over"... Want me to bring you a 55 Gallon drum of the little blue pills.

Grab a handful of Lilly F Forties while yer at it too!

I like opium.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

^ I'll take 2000 mg of Tylenol or Ibuprofen (usually for a hangover). Is that dangerous?

No, that combination is fine. There are times I take aspirin along with tylenol. Two different mechanisms of action as is tylenol and ibuprofen.

Originally Posted by wjblaney

Originally Posted by JPPR2

Love that Booners...a "Merkin Coming over"... Want me to bring you a 55 Gallon drum of the little blue pills.

Rick C is right however, it can already be purchased in TL under Naproxen Sodium. Advil can as well. Ibuprofen. They are Pinkish colored pills and 900 mgs.

Being a doper from California, I cannot believe the thread now includes posts about Alieve, aspirin, acetaminofen, Ibupfrofen, etc.

I never take meds. I hate them and if I do have to, I take minimum dosage. Its best to avoid building up the tolerance and requiring you take 3 x the standard dosage.

The big recent fad addiction in America right now is Advil, Tylenol, Aleve, Bayer all with sleep additives. FFS!!!. Every shelf and tons of ads about sleep disorders so drop an Advil PM, Tylenol PM, Aleve PM. Crazzzzzzy drugged up world. I guess its the 12 hour days and all the stress. Can't turn it off.

^ OK, your problem is with meds, whether for pain, sleeping aids or recreation? Let me be clear: everyone reacts differently to every medication. So your or my opinion about potency, effect, duration, dosage, favorites, etc. could possibly mean shit to anyone else who reads this thread.

^ The worst being alcoholism, which causes a whole host of problems.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

More ibuprofen. I found ibuprofen 800mg to work best for my aches and pains. Again you need to eat some food before taking it.

Can be taken with a glass of milk. Doctor took me off Ibuprofen. He told me it would fcuk up me kidney's and prescribed Tramadol instead.

Yes, I have moved away from ibuprofen type medications and for the past 6 months, I have just used aspirin and acetaminophen.

As a side note, after being on this thread, I have purchased some tramadol and so far, it seems to be working well. I like to change up the pain killers to avoid tolerance.

Originally Posted by rickschoppers

As a side note, after being on this thread, I have purchased some tramadol and so far, it seems to be working well. I like to change up the pain killers to avoid tolerance.

Say, that's interesting. Just curious: how many mg per dose and many doses per day have you been taking? For your other pain killers, same question.

Again, you need to realize everyone is different, but any literature about pain killers will recommend starting at a lower dose and then titrate up until pain relief is achieved. I started with 50mg in the morning and then 50mg at night. Pain is one of the things that keeps me awake at night and since I have been taking the tramadol, I have been sleeping much better. I have increased the morning dose to 100mg since I am much more active during the day.

By changing my pain medication, I should be able to achieve pain relief at a lower dose. I figure over time, tolerance will develope and I will need to increase the dose. When this happens, I will either increase the dose of tramadol, or change to a different pain killer and start titrating again.

I think I already mentioned my past aspirin/acetaminophen doses and I have found ibuprofen 800mg three times a day works for my pain. I have taken various other pain killers, but jo opiates, in the past. My arthritic hand and my back are the best indicators whether a pain killer is working or not at a particular dose.