Thread: The Disappearing Male

Have you seen this documentary yet? Shocking in my view. I caught a couple vids in the past on this stuff on the BBC and on French TV some time ago. The world seems to be in denial of this. Thais really are totally ignorant towards this.

The Disappearing Male on Vimeo


I often wonder why there are so so many ladyboys in Thailand. Could this be one of the reasons for so many?


If you have kids, you might want to think about all plastics your kid is being exposed to.

Japan seems to be big into plastics and of course has been loaded with industry for some time.


Here's a BBC story from a couple years ago...


Plastic chemicals 'feminise boys' 2009

BBC NEWS | Health | Plastic chemicals 'feminise boys'

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Chemicals in plastics alter the brains of baby boys, making them "more feminine", say US researchers.
Males exposed to high doses in the womb went on to be less likely to play with boys' toys like cars or to join in rough and tumble games, they found.
The University of Rochester team's latest work adds to concerns about the safety of phthalates, found in vinyl flooring and PVC shower curtains.
The findings are reported in the International Journal of Andrology.
Plastic furniture
Phthalates have the ability to disrupt hormones, and have been banned in toys in the EU for some years.
However, they are still widely used in many different household items, including plastic furniture and packaging.
There are many different types and some mimic the female hormone oestrogen.


The same researchers have already shown that this can mean boys are born with genital abnormalities.
Now they say certain phthalates also impact on the developing brain, by knocking out the action of the male hormone testosterone.
Dr Shanna Swan and her team tested urine samples from mothers over midway through pregnancy for traces of phthalates.
The women, who gave birth to 74 boys and 71 girls, were followed up when their children were aged four to seven and asked about the toys the youngsters played with and the games they enjoyed.
Girls' play
They found that two phthalates DEHP and DBP can affect play behaviour.
Boys exposed to high levels of these in the womb were less likely than other boys to play with cars, trains and guns or engage in "rougher" games like playfighting.


Elizabeth Salter-Green, director of the chemicals campaign group CHEM Trust, said the results were worrying.
"We now know that phthalates, to which we are all constantly exposed, are extremely worrying from a health perspective, leading to disruption of male reproduction health and, it appears, male behaviour too.
"This feminising capacity of phthalates makes them true 'gender benders'."
She acknowledged that the boys who have been studied were still young, but she said reduced masculine play at this age might lead to other feminised developments in later life.
But Tim Edgar, of the European Council for Plasticisers and Intermediates, said: "We need to get some scientific experts to look at this study in more detail before we can make a proper judgement."
He said there were many different phthalates in use and the study concerned two of the less commonly used types that were on the EU candidate list as potentially hazardous and needing authorisation for use.
DBP has been banned from use in cosmetics, such as nail varnish, since 2005 in the EU.
The British Plastics Federation said: "Chemical safety is of paramount importance to the plastics industry which has invested heavily in researching the substances it uses.
"Moreover, the new European Chemical Regulation, REACH, will ensure further rigorous evaluation and testing or chemical substances and their uses.""




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Interesting documentary Hampsha... Thanks for posting it. Here's a somewhat related video of something closer to home. The group that produced this and started to distribute DVDs ended up getting death threats.

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Looks like humanity is moving from natural evolution to chemically altered evolution. How's that going to turn out?

Originally Posted by DrAndy

you may not understand why, but because they are not discriminated in the same way as in the west, they feel freer to dress and behave as they feel

as for "ever increasing number" of katoey, that is your perception. What bars do you go to?

Is it taboo?

You may be right Andy about the Thai experience verses the western experience. I don't go to bars much anymore. I just see a hell of a lot in the school where I work in Esarn. I heard that the figures for the numbers of 'gays' in society is supposed to be 6%. There just seems to be a lot of feminine males/ladyboys around.

It just seems strange that no one seems to want to answer the question of why gays exist. When children are retarded parents want answers but when they are born gay they are just gay and that's it. There's no questioning as to why it is so. No doubt gays are the third 'sex' but is it really nature's plan? If so why would nature want gays? There might be reason for this. Shouldn't there be more investigation into this? Is it natural or chemical?

Anyways, the issue is about more than gays or ladyboys. There are men being born with their testes inside their bodies and need operations too fix that. There are males being born with less sperm and smaller penises due to what these people claim are chemicals. This is a bigger issue.


In the case of Thailand, Thais generally just accept whatever comes out of a womb as being basically natural in my opinion. This society is totally apathetic to most health and safety issues and that means the issues of chemicals affecting them. The average Thai's generally-carefree attitude makes them vulnerabe.

Thailand's plastic industry is immense. Plastic is used everywhere with disregard for health problems it might cause. The Thai govenment does very little from my view in bringing awareness to this issue and most issues out there. PTT, the largest petro-chemical company is a state-owned enterprise so some involved in that might not want certain issues to be issues in Thailand. For them, it's alll about business. Thais are addicted to plastics and beauty products. Asian women use more beauty products than other races if I remember right. In the past they must have been using real crap as today's products are still being found to have bad chemicals in them. What effects have all these chemicals had on them or their offspring?

Originally Posted by Hampsha

It just seems strange that no one seems to want to answer the question of why gays exist. When children are retarded parents want answers but when they are born gay they are just gay and that's it. There's no questioning as to why it is so. No doubt gays are the third 'sex' but is it really nature's plan? If so why would nature want gays? There might be reason for this. Shouldn't there be more investigation into this? Is it natural or chemical?

I think there are many studies and some conclusions

you seem to think that there are three sexes, so class males, females and gay as seperate entities

if you looked at the question properly you would realise that there is a complete spread of sex types, from the extreme male to the extreme female; in between are all sorts of variations and degrees of malemess/femaleness. Gays are not all identical, and neither are those who wish to classify themselves as male or female