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Butterfly · 30-09-2006, 02:39 PM

Well this is a long overdue thread about one of Thailand best resources: Ladyboys

In this thread I will comment on what constitutes a successful ladyboys bar because not all ladyboys bars are created equal.

Guide to the Ladyboys Bars - From Worst to Best
*************************************

5. Cascade
========
Location: Top Floor - Nana Plaza
Rating: *

Cascade is a mix of pre-op and post-op ladyboys. Quality is average and the place is a bit boring. Music is so-so. I haven't been there in ages. Used to be a gogo bar for girls and then one day they all became men. They are better place to go unless you like your ladyboys fat and ugly. I might have to go back there to see if things have changed. Best to take a quick look first and then move on to the next bar.

4. Casanova
=========
Location: Corner bar on Second Floor - Nana Plaza
Rating: *

Well, this place is quite famous so for the Nana regulars, it's impossible to miss. I went there a few times but didn't like the vibe of the place. Nothing impressive and the "girls" were so-so. Music sucks big time. Guys are very agressive there and will drag you into their dent with no way to escape. The bathroom seems to have a lot of actions. Apparently a TD member here was served there but had to run out of the bar when he had to face the bill.

3. King's Corner
============
Location: Patpong
Rating: ***

Now this is a classic gogo bar. One of the oldest in Patpong. The place is always crowded and it's a mix of Ladyboys and girls. Now the real show in the bar are not the girls but the customers. Most are Chinese or Japanese package tour who got lost or dragged into this place. The funny thing is that they seem totaly clueless about what is going on here. 80% of the best looking "girls" are guys and they all seem to be fighting for the attention of those clueless tourists. The best part is when the Chinese or Japanese tourist gets completely drunk and is kissing madly with a man, usually uncut, and thinks he got the prize of the night. If he is not too drunk, he pays the bar fine and close the deal in the hotels nearby. Sometimes, they just want to touch and kiss while drinking until they realize what's going on. Now, some of those girls are stunning, and they are a few who act and talk like the "real" thing, it's close to impossible to tell what they are. They have been only 1 or 2 I was unable to tell even after inspecting (in the bar) their equipment. The bar is so popular in Patpong and a must see attraction that it's not uncommon to see couples, farangs and Thais and even Japanese, coming here for a bit of "exotic" voyeurism. Most love to watch the gogo dancing show or to buy them a lady drink for a closer look at the "beast", but it's also not unusual to see couples ordering the service of such ladyboys, usually uncut, for a bit of "exotic" fun at home. A strange kind of lesbian show fantasy where the hubby witness his wife being "topped" by another women with a cock. Anyway, I am sure he jumps in at some point wearing his Batman suit to add to the fun. Spooky and funny. A new chapter in the "menage a trois".
Music: Good to excellent depending on weekdays. Great place to have fun with visiting friends or to bring a first timer in Thailand. Good times. I am a regular.

(to be continued...) Coming up next #2 and #1

2. King Castle III
=============
Location: Patpong
Rating: ****

Definitely one of the best bars for Ladyboys. This place is for the real hardcore, for those who are jaded after a week of intense gogo bar hoping or the washout sexpats who have seen it all and want something different. The place outside doesn't look like much and it just looks like another regular boring gogo bar, well at least at the first glance. But inside it's a different story. Music is hip, very aggressive, and some of the girls are stunning, though a bit too pushy at times. The secret to this place is to come completely smashed around 10pm, when it's getting full, and find a crowded seat next to the horde of ladyboys buzzing around. After you ordered your favorite drink, watch the scenery and enjoy the show. Usually, Japanese tourists "in the know" come there, to have a bit of hardcore fun. It usually involves the Ladyboy showing off his cock for all to see, or rubbing his post-op "pussy" against their pants. It's not unusual to see them "ride" the customers, while faking sexual acts of all nature. It basically looks like a giant open brothel. Japanese sexpats surrounded by dozens of "girls" asking for a drink, while one or two stuck between their legs unzip their pants and try to catch the snake wide open while trying to perform all kind of depraving oral acts. Pretty cahotic overall. After leaving the bar, it feels like you are leaving a war zone as the actions inside can be pretty intense at times. Of course, being drunk helps as it will make you feel like you landed in HELL and couldn't get out. A pretty good feeling actually above all when you succeeded to get out alive and not barfined.

Note: Most of the "girls" there are proud to be post-op and will glady show off their piece, so be ready for a lot of flashing. Actually the pre-op will also proudly show off their cock if requested. If they ask for a tip, ignore them, you are actually doing them a favor by looking and starring at their "piece of work".

Recommendation: Great place for taking newbies or Ladyboys afficionados.

************ The winner is ************

well, actually there are 2 winners, as I can't decide which one is really the best. Different bar for different type of afficionados. And the Moog was correct, as a regular of Obession, it is there at the top.

1. Obsession
==========
Location: Ground Floor at the end of Nana Plaza
Rating: *****

Obsession, ah, the Mecca of Ladyboys bar. A must go. The bar is stunning, has amazing looking "girls", usually there as a temporary stop before making their trip to the big op. That's right, Obsession is a pre-op ONLY bar, and the best looking girls are there to start their carreer by exclusively financing it there. There is not much else to say, but only to see. The music sucks though, but it gives a cheerful Disco "ambiance" that only a ladyboy gogo bar could get away with. Most men there know what's going on and are looking for some big time actions. Girls are playful and not too pushy. They will gladly flash their "piece" and a tip is not always required. Pics are welcomed if done properly. Blowjobs inside the bar is not a problem, sometimes for free if you speak nice. The only problem with this bar is that the "girls" don't stay long. Once they have the money, usually in less than 2 or 3 months, they leave and become "real" women. Then they go overseas to continue their career. It's sad really. You can no longer see them dancing, cheerful and proud, on that stage, with that dreadful Disco music in the background. They are making the bar. Oh well, at least that bar was not the last stop for them. Good "ambiance" and overall feeling of "happy girls".

Recommendation: great to bring crazy friends with you for complimentary handjobs or blowjobs. Not for the shy newbies.

************ The second winner is ************

1. Jenin's Bar
==========
Location: Pattaya, Marine Disco
Rating: *****

(to be continued)

(to be continued)

1. Jenin's Bar
==========
Location: Pattaya, Marine Disco
Rating: *****

Jenin's Bar is definitely the best place. It's in Pattaya though, so a bit of a drive to get there. The best night is Saturday, as the pretty "girls" full of yaba and also drunk, are frigging horny and will put on a show with their best dress to please those people standing by. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, Jenin's Bar is an outside bar so the girls are doing their show right on the top of the bar outside. Usually dressed in very provocative ways, they are the main attraction of the area (Marine Disco), as tourist couples will pose and take pics with them out of curiosity, usually with them flashing their tits or dick, depending on your type of ladyboys. The place doesn't start to live up to its reputation before 1am on a good night as everyone is busy to get ready and look the best. The music is awesome, and the place has definitely a vibe. Watching the girls dancing in their awesome provocative dress will make your head(s) turn. It usually means that you are ready for some actions in the disco upstair or in the back sois nearby. The place starts to be really crowed with regulars around 3am. Party goers like to end the night at this place for a few last drinks as there is always a show going on or something "interesting" going on. Music is loud and crazy, and exactly right. I usually like to go there completely smashed around 2:30am, when the bar is at its best. Girls don't bother me much as most know me already and I usually had a shorttime before, so I buy them a few drinks until they can catch their prince of the night. I am always surprised how many Metrosexual, Alpha type, young guys (usually in their late 20s) show up there and catch one for the night. Anyway, the bar is always an adventure and definitely a must see destination in Pattaya. The owner (Jenin) is a neat Thai girl who has been running this bar for ages. I think she is in jail now for cokaine traffiking (the bar purpose) so some ladyboy friend of her has taken over while she is away.I think she will be back in 5 years I was told. Who knows. Anyway, the place hasn't changed much, and it's still one of the best place to have fun in South Pattaya.

Recommendation: Music excellent, good crowd, awesome girls, good drinks. A must do alone or with a couple of friends. Being smashed is a must as everyone is. And there is no barfine for anyone.

And this concludes our review of "A complete guide to Thailand Best Ladyboys Bars". I hope this guide will be useful and helpful for everyone. Ladyboys are amazing piece of work. Don't be afraid of them, they are only girls.

I hope you will enjoy those places and don't forget to report back here if you have something to add or update on all those recommendations.

machangezi · 30-09-2006, 02:43 PM

I see Cmn reading with interest.

Something's fishy eh?

buadhai · 30-09-2006, 02:43 PM

We just can't wait to see what's number one, that's all....

ChiangMai noon · 30-09-2006, 02:57 PM

I'm kind of curious why this would be in travellers tales.
Also kind of curious about the sort of bloke who goes for ladyboys.
Do the same sort of bloke go for the pre-op[ as post op variety?

buadhai · 30-09-2006, 03:29 PM

The Cascade had the potential to be a great fun place. They must have spent a fortune on the waterfalls, revolving stages and all. Sadly, they were penny wise and pound foolish when it came to hiring female talent.

Still, I used to pop in to enjoy the cool air and waterfalls. One day a few of the performers looked a bit better. I smiled at one pretty dancer who came and sat next to me after the dance set was over and then said "hello" in a voice that can only be described as baritone. Ah, er, something wrong here.

I thanked "her", got up and left and haven't been back since.

Butterfly · 30-09-2006, 04:19 PM

^ Yes Cascade was one of my favorite before it become a ladyboy bar. The girls used to be pretty there and then one day the girls were getting fat, and then the next it was full of ladyboys. They probably spent all the money on the stage and the bar decor itself. No money left for the girls.

Ok I am back, I will update that thread

kingwilly · 30-09-2006, 04:32 PM

this thread needs pics !

Marmite asked me to post that !

Mhz · 30-09-2006, 04:38 PM

I see Stroller reading the thread as well. Something is fishy fishy.

Wait a minute what am I doing in this thread??

Butterfly · 30-09-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingwillyhggtb

this thread needs pics !

When it comes ladyboys, words and imagination are better than pics

stroller · 30-09-2006, 05:10 PM

Purely academic interest on my part.
I'll have to check the veracity of B'fly's reports on my next BKK trip - can't let him post stuff which isn't true.

Mhz · 30-09-2006, 06:25 PM

Quote:

3. King's Corner
============
Location: Patpong
Rating: ***

Been there. Actually the first go go bar I visited was king's Corner. Uncle macha took me there cos he wanted to show me and I couldn't do anything. Thanks God uncle macha was with me cos little Mhz was bothering me alot and at that time I could'nt differ a Ladyboy and a girl.

hillbilly · 30-09-2006, 06:38 PM

^ and we wonder why Patpong prevails?

Mhz · 30-09-2006, 06:48 PM

That was the first and the last time I visited Patpong.

I can see Fankie reading the thread at the moment.

lom · 30-09-2006, 08:17 PM

I´m leaving the thread now before anyone accuses me of reading it.

buadhai · 30-09-2006, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lom

I´m leaving the thread now before anyone accuses me of reading it.

Too late. We caught you. And, BTW, do you always smoke after shagging a hen?

The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog · 08-11-2006, 10:55 AM

So where are the 1 and 2 rated bar.

I presume Obsession is right up there.

Where are the smaller ladyboys? All the one's i've seen are big brutish ones. Don't say its because of the hormones they take. Female hormones don't make you tall - I should know, I take Propecia and that's oestrogen (you should see my man titties).

Rigger · 08-11-2006, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ Yes Cascade was one of my favorite before it become a ladyboy bar. The girls used to be pretty there and then one day the girls were getting fat, and then the next it was full of ladyboys. They probably spent all the money on the stage and the bar decor itself. No money left for the girls.

I ended up in this place the first time I went to Nana I was pisst as a fart as I had started on the ground floor and would have a beer in one and move to the next so by the time I got to the Cascade I was in no pain. Walked in sat down and ordered a beer then relized it was a poove hang out I was glad I had the wife with me

Mr Earl · 08-11-2006, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mhz

Thanks God uncle macha was with me cos little Mhz was bothering me alot and at that time I could'nt differ a Ladyboy and a girl.

at least you didn't go an marry one like some Australians have been known to unknowingly do!

Butterfly · 08-11-2006, 01:30 PM

Thanks for the reminder Moog. I took old stroll to Cascade the other night, and he was quite pleased with the scenery, we had a great time. No I didn't barfine one. However we proceeded with other girlie bars, and then we both got barfined

Ok, time to update this thread with #1 and #2

coming soon...

30-09-2006, 02:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,324	A Complete Guide to Thailand Best Ladyboys Bars Well this is a long overdue thread about one of Thailand best resources: Ladyboys In this thread I will comment on what constitutes a successful ladyboys bar because not all ladyboys bars are created equal. Guide to the Ladyboys Bars - From Worst to Best ************************************* 5. Cascade ======== Location: Top Floor - Nana Plaza Rating: * Cascade is a mix of pre-op and post-op ladyboys. Quality is average and the place is a bit boring. Music is so-so. I haven't been there in ages. Used to be a gogo bar for girls and then one day they all became men. They are better place to go unless you like your ladyboys fat and ugly. I might have to go back there to see if things have changed. Best to take a quick look first and then move on to the next bar. 4. Casanova ========= Location: Corner bar on Second Floor - Nana Plaza Rating: * Well, this place is quite famous so for the Nana regulars, it's impossible to miss. I went there a few times but didn't like the vibe of the place. Nothing impressive and the "girls" were so-so. Music sucks big time. Guys are very agressive there and will drag you into their dent with no way to escape. The bathroom seems to have a lot of actions. Apparently a TD member here was served there but had to run out of the bar when he had to face the bill. 3. King's Corner ============ Location: Patpong Rating: * Now this is a classic gogo bar. One of the oldest in Patpong. The place is always crowded and it's a mix of Ladyboys and girls. Now the real show in the bar are not the girls but the customers. Most are Chinese or Japanese package tour who got lost or dragged into this place. The funny thing is that they seem totaly clueless about what is going on here. 80% of the best looking "girls" are guys and they all seem to be fighting for the attention of those clueless tourists. The best part is when the Chinese or Japanese tourist gets completely drunk and is kissing madly with a man, usually uncut, and thinks he got the prize of the night. If he is not too drunk, he pays the bar fine and close the deal in the hotels nearby. Sometimes, they just want to touch and kiss while drinking until they realize what's going on. Now, some of those girls are stunning, and they are a few who act and talk like the "real" thing, it's close to impossible to tell what they are. They have been only 1 or 2 I was unable to tell even after inspecting (in the bar) their equipment. The bar is so popular in Patpong and a must see attraction that it's not uncommon to see couples, farangs and Thais and even Japanese, coming here for a bit of "exotic" voyeurism. Most love to watch the gogo dancing show or to buy them a lady drink for a closer look at the "beast", but it's also not unusual to see couples ordering the service of such ladyboys, usually uncut, for a bit of "exotic" fun at home. A strange kind of lesbian show fantasy where the hubby witness his wife being "topped" by another women with a cock. Anyway, I am sure he jumps in at some point wearing his Batman suit to add to the fun. Spooky and funny. A new chapter in the "menage a trois". Music: Good to excellent depending on weekdays. Great place to have fun with visiting friends or to bring a first timer in Thailand. Good times. I am a regular. (to be continued...) Coming up next #2 and #1 2. King Castle III ============= Location: Patpong Rating: Definitely one of the best bars for Ladyboys. This place is for the real hardcore, for those who are jaded after a week of intense gogo bar hoping or the washout sexpats who have seen it all and want something different. The place outside doesn't look like much and it just looks like another regular boring gogo bar, well at least at the first glance. But inside it's a different story. Music is hip, very aggressive, and some of the girls are stunning, though a bit too pushy at times. The secret to this place is to come completely smashed around 10pm, when it's getting full, and find a crowded seat next to the horde of ladyboys buzzing around. After you ordered your favorite drink, watch the scenery and enjoy the show. Usually, Japanese tourists "in the know" come there, to have a bit of hardcore fun. It usually involves the Ladyboy showing off his cock for all to see, or rubbing his post-op "pussy" against their pants. It's not unusual to see them "ride" the customers, while faking sexual acts of all nature. It basically looks like a giant open brothel. Japanese sexpats surrounded by dozens of "girls" asking for a drink, while one or two stuck between their legs unzip their pants and try to catch the snake wide open while trying to perform all kind of depraving oral acts. Pretty cahotic overall. After leaving the bar, it feels like you are leaving a war zone as the actions inside can be pretty intense at times. Of course, being drunk helps as it will make you feel like you landed in HELL and couldn't get out. A pretty good feeling actually above all when you succeeded to get out alive and not barfined. Note: Most of the "girls" there are proud to be post-op and will glady show off their piece, so be ready for a lot of flashing. Actually the pre-op will also proudly show off their cock if requested. If they ask for a tip, ignore them, you are actually doing them a favor by looking and starring at their "piece of work". Recommendation: Great place for taking newbies or Ladyboys afficionados. ******** The winner is ******** well, actually there are 2 winners, as I can't decide which one is really the best. Different bar for different type of afficionados. And the Moog was correct, as a regular of Obession, it is there at the top. 1. Obsession ========== Location: Ground Floor at the end of Nana Plaza Rating: * Obsession, ah, the Mecca of Ladyboys bar. A must go. The bar is stunning, has amazing looking "girls", usually there as a temporary stop before making their trip to the big op. That's right, Obsession is a pre-op ONLY bar, and the best looking girls are there to start their carreer by exclusively financing it there. There is not much else to say, but only to see. The music sucks though, but it gives a cheerful Disco "ambiance" that only a ladyboy gogo bar could get away with. Most men there know what's going on and are looking for some big time actions. Girls are playful and not too pushy. They will gladly flash their "piece" and a tip is not always required. Pics are welcomed if done properly. Blowjobs inside the bar is not a problem, sometimes for free if you speak nice. The only problem with this bar is that the "girls" don't stay long. Once they have the money, usually in less than 2 or 3 months, they leave and become "real" women. Then they go overseas to continue their career. It's sad really. You can no longer see them dancing, cheerful and proud, on that stage, with that dreadful Disco music in the background. They are making the bar. Oh well, at least that bar was not the last stop for them. Good "ambiance" and overall feeling of "happy girls". Recommendation: great to bring crazy friends with you for complimentary handjobs or blowjobs. Not for the shy newbies. ******** The second winner is ******** 1. Jenin's Bar ========== Location: Pattaya, Marine Disco Rating: * (to be continued) (to be continued) 1. Jenin's Bar ========== Location: Pattaya, Marine Disco Rating: *** Jenin's Bar is definitely the best place. It's in Pattaya though, so a bit of a drive to get there. The best night is Saturday, as the pretty "girls" full of yaba and also drunk, are frigging horny and will put on a show with their best dress to please those people standing by. Oh yeah, forgot to mention, Jenin's Bar is an outside bar so the girls are doing their show right on the top of the bar outside. Usually dressed in very provocative ways, they are the main attraction of the area (Marine Disco), as tourist couples will pose and take pics with them out of curiosity, usually with them flashing their tits or dick, depending on your type of ladyboys. The place doesn't start to live up to its reputation before 1am on a good night as everyone is busy to get ready and look the best. The music is awesome, and the place has definitely a vibe. Watching the girls dancing in their awesome provocative dress will make your head(s) turn. It usually means that you are ready for some actions in the disco upstair or in the back sois nearby. The place starts to be really crowed with regulars around 3am. Party goers like to end the night at this place for a few last drinks as there is always a show going on or something "interesting" going on. Music is loud and crazy, and exactly right. I usually like to go there completely smashed around 2:30am, when the bar is at its best. Girls don't bother me much as most know me already and I usually had a shorttime before, so I buy them a few drinks until they can catch their prince of the night. I am always surprised how many Metrosexual, Alpha type, young guys (usually in their late 20s) show up there and catch one for the night. Anyway, the bar is always an adventure and definitely a must see destination in Pattaya. The owner (Jenin) is a neat Thai girl who has been running this bar for ages. I think she is in jail now for cokaine traffiking (the bar purpose) so some ladyboy friend of her has taken over while she is away.I think she will be back in 5 years I was told. Who knows. Anyway, the place hasn't changed much, and it's still one of the best place to have fun in South Pattaya. Recommendation: Music excellent, good crowd, awesome girls, good drinks. A must do alone or with a couple of friends. Being smashed is a must as everyone is. And there is no barfine for anyone. And this concludes our review of "A complete guide to Thailand Best Ladyboys Bars". I hope this guide will be useful and helpful for everyone. Ladyboys are amazing piece of work. Don't be afraid of them, they are only girls. I hope you will enjoy those places and don't forget to report back here if you have something to add or update on all those recommendations.

08-11-2006, 01:30 PM	#19 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,324	Thanks for the reminder Moog. I took old stroll to Cascade the other night, and he was quite pleased with the scenery, we had a great time. No I didn't barfine one. However we proceeded with other girlie bars, and then we both got barfined Ok, time to update this thread with #1 and #2 coming soon... Last edited by Butterfly : 08-11-2006 at 01:33 PM.

30-09-2006, 02:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
machangezi Not again! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Out there! Posts: 7,865	I see Cmn reading with interest. Something's fishy eh?

30-09-2006, 02:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
buadhai Elite Member Last Online: 27-11-2006 08:00 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,973	We just can't wait to see what's number one, that's all....

30-09-2006, 02:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon llewys goch Last Online: Today 11:04 AM Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 22,998	I'm kind of curious why this would be in travellers tales. Also kind of curious about the sort of bloke who goes for ladyboys. Do the same sort of bloke go for the pre-op[ as post op variety?

30-09-2006, 03:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
buadhai Elite Member Last Online: 27-11-2006 08:00 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 2,973	The Cascade had the potential to be a great fun place. They must have spent a fortune on the waterfalls, revolving stages and all. Sadly, they were penny wise and pound foolish when it came to hiring female talent. Still, I used to pop in to enjoy the cool air and waterfalls. One day a few of the performers looked a bit better. I smiled at one pretty dancer who came and sat next to me after the dance set was over and then said "hello" in a voice that can only be described as baritone. Ah, er, something wrong here. I thanked "her", got up and left and haven't been back since.

30-09-2006, 04:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
Butterfly Suspended Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,324	^ Yes Cascade was one of my favorite before it become a ladyboy bar. The girls used to be pretty there and then one day the girls were getting fat, and then the next it was full of ladyboys. They probably spent all the money on the stage and the bar decor itself. No money left for the girls. Ok I am back, I will update that thread

30-09-2006, 04:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
kingwilly spirit was irrepressible Last Online: Today 08:25 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21,163	this thread needs pics ! Marmite asked me to post that !

30-09-2006, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mhz Single and Happy Last Online: 10-12-2007 11:44 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,035	I see Stroller reading the thread as well. Something is fishy fishy. Wait a minute what am I doing in this thread??

30-09-2006, 05:10 PM	#10 (permalink)
stroller Kraut Last Online: 01-07-2008 10:03 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: under the headphones Posts: 17,181	Purely academic interest on my part. I'll have to check the veracity of B'fly's reports on my next BKK trip - can't let him post stuff which isn't true.

30-09-2006, 06:38 PM	#12 (permalink)
hillbilly Still trailer trash Last Online: Today 11:13 AM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: BKK & 'D&G Resort' Posts: 5,010	^ and we wonder why Patpong prevails?

30-09-2006, 06:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
Mhz Single and Happy Last Online: 10-12-2007 11:44 AM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,035	That was the first and the last time I visited Patpong. I can see Fankie reading the thread at the moment.

30-09-2006, 08:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
lom Elite Member Last Online: Today 02:32 PM Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 3,748	I´m leaving the thread now before anyone accuses me of reading it.

08-11-2006, 10:55 AM	#16 (permalink)
The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog Elite Member Last Online: 07-08-2008 11:19 AM Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,466	So where are the 1 and 2 rated bar. I presume Obsession is right up there. Where are the smaller ladyboys? All the one's i've seen are big brutish ones. Don't say its because of the hormones they take. Female hormones don't make you tall - I should know, I take Propecia and that's oestrogen (you should see my man titties).