New oven time...

**Hootad Binky** · 13-10-2006, 03:06 AM

I like having an oven again.

**NickA** · 14-10-2006, 08:07 AM

Originally Posted by buadhai

I buy a 22 liter bottle of drinking water for 10 baht. My friend who lives at Soi Ari in Bangkok pays 50 and thinks it's cheap.

It's 10 baht in Bangkok as well or 12 baht delivered, but that's the cheap stuff (which I get), the better stuff, I think it's called Sprinkle, is about 50 baht, but it is actually clean.

**buadhai** · 14-10-2006, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

It's 10 baht in Bangkok as well or 12 baht delivered, but that's the cheap stuff (which I get), the better stuff, I think it's called Sprinkle, is about 50 baht, but it is actually clean.

Well, that explains it. Maybe they don't deliver the 12 baht stuff to an upscale neighborhood like Soi Ari.

I guess "clean" is relative. The last bottle we got has so much chlorine that it's almost undrinkable. Of course, the Chinese in this house can't bear the thought of tossing 10 baht worth of water....

**NickA** · 14-10-2006, 08:29 AM

^I was passing through Korat yesterday, stayed at the Korat Resort - very nice part of the country.

**buadhai** · 14-10-2006, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by NickA

^I was passing through Korat yesterday, stayed at the Korat Resort - very nice part of the country.

Any photos? I'd love to have a report on the Korat Resort. I've driven by many times but never been inside. Did you dine there?

**Thetyim** · 14-10-2006, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by buadhai

The last bottle we got has so much chlorine that it's almost undrinkable.

The quality of those 20 liter bottles varies from business to business.
If I can taste the chlorine then I send it back.

We have one supplier here who is intelligent and has water testing equipment. I took in some water samples and he showed me which water was the best quality. Thats the one I buy.

**buadhai** · 14-10-2006, 01:23 PM

Ah, you're a better man than I....

I just leave the empty bottle out in the drive way with a ten baht coin on top and take whatever's left in its place!

**Thetyim** · 14-10-2006, 04:12 PM

Tea and coffee is undrinkable if it is laced with chlorine.
What's the point of buying it, if it tastes shit and is overloading your kidneys.

I ask the supplier to replace any bottles that stink of chlorine so that he knows what the problem is. If the water does not improve then I get a new supplier.

**NickA** · 14-10-2006, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by buadhai

Any photos? I'd love to have a report on the Korat Resort. I've driven by many times but never been inside. Did you dine there?

Maybe, if you're lucky, I'll post a thread about the trip......been busy doing some plumbing today

**buadhai** · 14-10-2006, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

been busy doing some plumbing today

I know how much fun that can be....

Thetyim, I agree with you, but I'm just to lazy to organize this on behalf of the whole bloody house. When I've got a place of my own I'll start paying more attention.

**danbo** · 14-10-2006, 04:52 PM

This may sound like a dumb question but where does is the gas bottle stored for the gas stoves? Outside? I was going to buy one of the microwave/convection oven/grill/icebox combination thingys, but I think that I may be able to get by with an oven that looks like an oven.

In the UK I only had a microwave and I got a bit bored with everything I ate having the texture of blancmange. so I bought myself a George Foreman Grill, or George Formby Grill as I prefer on calling it. It does cook the food nicely - oven chips and fish fingers come out a treat - but the design is somewhat lacking IMO - It seems impossible to get within four feet of the bloody thing without burning my fingers....and it's even worse when it's switched on.

**Thetyim** · 14-10-2006, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by buadhai

When I've got a place of my own I'll start paying more attention.

Please do because chlorine is not doing your health any good and I would be upset if you were to peg out before you finish the round the world thread

**buadhai** · 14-10-2006, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Please do because chlorine is not doing your health any good and I would be upset if you were to peg out before you finish the round the world thread

Well, on Saipan I drank nothing but pure rainwater (and beer) for 25 years, so my kidneys should be pretty clear.

**hillbilly** · 14-10-2006, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by danbo

This may sound like a dumb question but where does the gas bottle stored for the gas stoves go? Outside?

Not a dumb question at all. Many Thais will store their gas container inside the home. But I simply run a longer line and store my gas cannister outside.

It costs me B310, I think to fill-up/replace this propane tank about every 3 months or so.

**hillbilly** · 14-10-2006, 07:11 PM

We sorta have two thoughts going on at the same time. Let me reply to what I think is the first one.

I keep my gas outside...unless you count the bed sheet raising incidents...

To get this tank replaced in BKK costs about B300. A guy on a rickety motorcycle generally shows up with enough gas to, well you can begin to understand...

**hillbilly** · 14-10-2006, 07:26 PM

Now for the water. I pay B60 for a jug of water here in BKK.

Upcountry, at my estate I pay B10. You be the judge...

**NickA** · 12-11-2006, 11:49 AM

I just ran out of gas yesterday, the cost of a refill was 265 baht. I gave him 280 cos I'm nice like that even though it took 2 hours to deliver when it should normally only take 15 minutes....anyway he was getting grief from loads of people on his mobile for being late, so I felt a little sorry for the guy.

**buadhai** · 14-11-2006, 02:05 PM

So, RDN and Hillbilly, you've both had your new ovens for some time now. Care to report on how you like them? Any recommendations? Anyone else care to report on their oven?

I'm in the market and still mired in the built-in vs. stand alone debate.

**NickA** · 14-11-2006, 02:41 PM

^Me too, but I'm in the bult in vs. stand alone vs. table top debate

**buadhai** · 14-11-2006, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

^Me too, but I'm in the bult in vs. stand alone vs. table top debate

I lived with a table-top combination convection/microwave for years and wouldn't do it again. In convection mode it didn't cook very fast and was really too small for big jobs like loaves of bread, Christmas cookies and that essential Thanksgiving turkey. As a microwave it was really too big for most microwave jobs, like reheating that last cup of coffee or last night's pizza.

This time I will go for a standard oven and a small microwave.

As I see it, the advantages of the stand-alone unit are: ease of installation and lower price than separate built-ins. The built-ins probably look better and allow you to buy the cook top and oven that suit. For example, you might want a fancy cook top but only a so-so oven because you don't do much baking.

Round and round I go....

**lom** · 14-11-2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by NickA

^Me too, but I'm in the bult in vs. stand alone vs. table top debate

That's second door to the left.

**RDN** · 14-11-2006, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by buadhai

So, RDN and Hillbilly, you've both had your new ovens for some time now. Care to report on how you like them? Any recommendations? Anyone else care to report on their oven?

I'm in the market and still mired in the built-in vs. stand alone debate.

Good timing Buadhai! I used it for the first time a few days ago to cook a chicken.

The results were not good. The temperature control is non-existent, as others have said. I knew before I bought it that the indicator on the front was just that - an indicator, not a controller - but I didn't realise how difficult it would be to adjust the gas knobs to get a steady temperature.

In fact I never got a steady temperature. I set a "minute minder" clock to ring every ten minutes so I could check the temperature and I found that the temperature would either be at 250C or more, or it would be cooling down.

The chicken itself was undercooked and gave me the trots. All in all, not a good experience.

Someone talked about using the gas bottle valve to adjust the temperature - I can see why now: the difference between the gas being full on and almost off is just 10 or 20 degrees on the oven's gas knobs. You would expect 1/4 turn would give you 1/4 gas, 1/2 turn would give 1/2 gas, and so on, but that's just not the case. The last little bit on the gas knob makes the difference between 10% on and 100% on. Pathetic.

So I'm on the look-out for something I can put just after the gas bottle to moderate the gas flow more evenly.

So, overall, I would not recommend this for the oven. The three gas rings on top are great, but that's a pretty expensive three-ring burner!

Coincidentally, while looking for replacement vacuum cleaner bags in Central Festival, I did find a very large electric oven - with temperature controller - for about 3,500 baht. If you wait a few days, the next time I'm there - probably tomorrow - I'll take a picture and post it. It's certainly a lot bigger than the one I've got, this one:

- so I'm tempted to get it (and, of course, the old one will be shipped off to the g/f's mother!)

**Anonymous Coward** · 15-12-2006, 02:20 PM

Anyone know anything about Fagor appliances? Home Pro has a built-in Fagor oven on sale for about 15,000 baht, down from 27,000. It seems to be a discontinued model. I had a look and it seems fine, but Wiki says that Fagor is a big Spanish brand trying to overcome a bad rep on their early low-end stuff.

I've never heard of them before I saw this oven advertised.

**hillbilly** · 16-12-2006, 11:25 AM

^I also saw the Fagor brand but steered away because I had never heard of that name before.

Instead, I went with the Electrolux standalone stove/oven which has performed just great!

**Anonymous Coward** · 16-12-2006, 11:47 AM

I don't think Fagor is big in the US market, but they seem to have a big presence in Europe. Their Thailand Web Site is actually OK. The English version even works.

But, the oven on sale at HomePro is not shown. I did find it on some European web sites which makes me think that HomePro got a deal on a discontinued model and might have done an end run around the local distributor.

Edit: I'm wrong. The model on sale at HomePro is a new model with a special introductory offer:

Big and the only once a year event which you shouldn’t miss!
We proudly introduce our latest model oven 5H-114X with
more functions at only B.11,500.- (normal price is B.26,900.-),
get more premium Fagor hand mixer SP-251 worth of B.2,210.-
Other benefits offered including our membership privilege program,
Fagor Family Club, for 2 years with 3-year warranty and
2-year free check-up services (every 6 months)*.
This special offer is from now till 31 October (or until stock last),
if you’re thinking of getting any gifts for yourself,
the one(s) you love, etc., you can find it all at Fagor.

Although the web site says the offer expires 31 October, HomePro has it until 3 January.

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