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Old 09-01-2008, 10:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Yep a real inability to figure why anyone would sit an chew away at little biscuits for 20 minutes just for a cup of something resembling Nescafe.

Wonder if Howard is related to the famous Charles.
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Like Starbucks or not, it's hard to argue with success. No other coffee chain is even close to them. Unfortunately, they'll not be seeing any of my money.

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"Books about Starbucks don’t come in as many flavors as the company’s beverages, but busy authors are closing the gap. With four titles either recently published or set to be published this spring, bookstores will carry at least eight books about the Seattle coffee chain. Each purports to reveal why Starbucks is one of the fastest-growing companies in recent years, tells you how to invest in the next Starbucks or turn your company into the next Starbucks, or simply marvels at the genius of Howard Schultz, the Starbucks chair whose own book, Pour Your Heart Into It: How Starbucks Built a Company One Cup at a Time, appeared in 1997.

What can you learn from the books? Starbucks’ story is endlessly fascinating because of the unusual way the company has built a global chain and a global brand, explains Joseph Michelli, a Colorado Springs, Colorado, consultant and author of The Starbucks Experience: 5 Principles for Turning Ordinary Into Extraordinary.

“Unlike McDonald’s, which is a franchise, [Starbucks] retained ownership through corporate-owned locations,” Michelli says. “And unlike traditional marketing where you’d use a lot of ad dollars, the brand has leveraged itself without advertising.”

Brand building without huge ad spending and growth without the loss of control that franchising can bring are ideas that interest many entrepreneurs. A big dream is another one, and Michael T. Moe, CEO of ThinkEquity Partners in San Francisco and author of Finding the Next Starbucks: How to Identify and Invest in the Hot Stocks of Tomorrow, says Starbucks’ early leaders were also distinguished by their exceptionally highflying entrepreneurial visions. “Aspirationally, it was always huge,” he explains.

If there is one thing that everybody who studies Starbucks agrees on, it’s that the company gets a large portion of its strength from the way it provides employees with a great place to work. “What Starbucks does magnificently well is treat employees not as pawns, but as partners,” says John Moore, an Austin, Texas, marketing consultant, former Starbucks marketer and author of Tribal Knowledge: Business Wisdom Brewed From the Grounds of Starbucks. “They spend as much time and as many dollars trying to speak to employees as they do trying to speak to customers.”


There are limits to the Starbucks lesson. The window of opportunity may no longer be open to start your own coffee bar and expect to grow it to the size of Starbucks. And not everything Starbucks touched has turned to gold. The stories about its failed ventures into magazine publishing and full-service dining are as instructive as its successes.

But the experts agree it’s not too late to winnow some useful concepts from the experiences of Schultz and company, particularly when it comes to the value of the high-quality products, top-shelf employee relations and high-quality customer experiences that frame its mission. And if you read all the books and distill them into a single idea, it’s that almost any effort made to create happy and motivated employees creates happy and loyal customers. Says Moore, “That’s something all businesses can learn from.”

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I heard Howard Schultz is back in the riders seat. Stocks have dropped by 50% since last year. This is a good time to look into buying stock in this company. Coffee drinker or not I believe most people like money.
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Old 11-01-2008, 09:33 AM   #43 (permalink)
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The best coffee for my dollar is at Dunkin Donuts.
There's no hope for some people...
Hmmm, but their donuts are lovely. Just once a year mind.
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Old 27-01-2008, 08:56 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Starbucks tests $1 cups, free refills
By The Wall Street Journal
23 Jan 08

Starbucks, the company that popularized the $4 cup of coffee, is testing a $1 cup and free refills of some of its offerings.

The Seattle coffee giant is experimenting with selling the $1 "short" brew in its hometown area, spokeswoman Valerie O'Neil confirmed.

The 8-ounce short size isn't on Starbucks' menu but has long been ordered by in-the-know patrons. Typically, a short brewed coffee would sell for about $1.50, although that can vary by several cents depending on the store.
Starbucks is also testing the offer of free refills for traditional brewed coffee in the Seattle area.

O'Neil wouldn't elaborate on the specifics of the tests or say how many stores are offering it. She said the tests aren't indicative of any new business strategy.
The $1 test undercuts even low-cost coffee purveyors, including McDonald's and Dunkin' Donuts, whose coffees generally start in the low $1-plus range.
Although most sit-down restaurants top off customers' coffee free, specialty cafes have largely stayed away from the practice.

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Now we're talkin. If they could just get rid of the greesy creeps with skanky beards and dopey face piercings.
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MtD Starbucks sells coffee from all around the world, including America, Africa and South-east Asia. If they don't stock Thai coffee then there is a commercial reason. People don't want to drink the stuff.
Only thing about that is,, There is no coffee grown in the USA, it is all imported.
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There is no coffee grown in the USA, it is all imported.
Yes, from America, Africa and SE Asia.
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The move is part of the fast-food chain's continued effort to challenge Starbucks.
Why does McDonalds need to Challenge Starbucks?

It is a greed thing or an insecurity thing?

Perhaps Honda would be interested in saying "My daddy's bigger than your daddy" to Cadbury, the chocolate company.

Jeez, let Starbucks do their thing (ripping people off and mass producing beverages with fancy names) - and you concentrate on creating burgers from offal and sugar and naming them with your insipid and tiresome prefix.

Fucking McDonalds, scum of the earth.
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Yes, from America, Africa and SE Asia.
Yes, Central America, and South America,, but still none grown in North America or USA.

If you people are so smart on maps and geography, why can't you differentiate between the Americas??

We do, did you notice USA.
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Fucking McDonalds, scum of the earth.
Just can't get over them running your ass off after a trial period of one week, can you..
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We can. We just like being pedantic.
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Just can't get over them running your ass off after a trial period of one week, can you..
What a fucking insult, you think my life has been that dull that I would resent getting fired by a company I was out to sabotage even then.

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What a fucking insult, you think my life has been that dull
Well, From reading your posts from the time you came to TV and then over here, I would have to say that if you have posted the truth and that is all you have had to do, then yes you do have a pretty dull life.
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I challenge Starbucks to make a cup of coffee that even comes close to the 20 Baht cup that is served in the coffee shop next to my office.
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Starbuck's has a reputation for quality at a price.
I thought it had a reputation for producing bland, tasteless shite and overcharging the customer for it?
UK coffee sucks. Thankgod for milk. I remember the coffee shops from 1982, that's how bad the coffee is in the UK.
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I challenge Starbucks to make a cup of coffee that even comes close to the 20 Baht cup that is served in the coffee shop next to my office.
You're a poor bastard aren't you. Do you ever think that you help keep the people of thailand poor. I would guess you like to feel superior. Buy your cheap coffee but one day when the waiter pulls out a machete and cuts your farang head off remember this, "Life is but a dream".
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If the dollar dips much lower, they're there. Right now they're at 33B with free refill. Hell, the Thais would never leave.
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UK coffee sucks. Thankgod for milk. I remember the coffee shops from 1982, that's how bad the coffee is in the UK.
Indeed. The UK hasn't changed a bit since 1982.

Did you ever wonder why we drunk tea?

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You're a poor bastard aren't you. Do you ever think that you help keep the people of thailand poor. I would guess you like to feel superior. Buy your cheap coffee but one day when the waiter pulls out a machete and cuts your farang head off remember this, "Life is but a dream".
You're right of course. I forced them to make good coffee and sell it cheaply.

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What a fucking insult, you think my life has been that dull
Well, From reading your posts from the time you came to TV and then over here, I would have to say that if you have posted the truth and that is all you have had to do, then yes you do have a pretty dull life.
I have posted the truth though not always revealed all and I've had an amazing time - esp with the carnival, and we all know how lucky we are (maybe not the Russians, they took it for granted) - forums have simply filled in the gaps.

Anyway, what does this have to do with coffee and burgers?
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Well, From reading your posts from the time you came to TV and then over here, I would have to say that if you have posted the truth and that is all you have had to do, then yes you do have a pretty dull life.
I have posted the truth though not always revealed all and I've had an amazing time - esp with the carnival, and we all kn