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    Where to Dine

    ...I don't think Food Panda has much business from these places:

    These Are the World’s 50 Best Restaurants
    by Richard Vines (Bloomberg)

    Eleven Madison Park in New York triumphed Wednesday in the World’s 50 Best Restaurants awards, becoming the first U.S. establishment to win the top spot since 2004.

    Chef Daniel Humm’s contemporary American restaurant toppled Italy’s Osteria Francescana, which came in second after winning the title for the first time last year. Spanish restaurant El Celler de Can Roca came in third.

    The winners were announced in a ceremony at the Royal Exhibition Building in Melbourne. The list is decided by a panel of more than 1,000 chefs, food writers and other experts from 26 geographical regions.

    Humm and co-owner Will Guidara serve a seasonal tasting menu that features dishes such as sea urchin custard with baby squid, bay scallop and apple; and pear poached with honey and acorn. The latest menu costs $295 plus tax for eleven courses.

    “I never in my wildest dreams thought that I could find myself in this position,” Humm said shortly after winning. “Cuisine has given me everything: I left school at 14 and pursued a craft that no one believed in at the time. Everything I have learned has been from food: languages, culture. I have traveled the world and met Will, who is my best friend as well as my business partner. It is unbelievable.”

    The awards started in 2002, the product of a brainstorming session in a pub about how to promote U.K.-based Restaurant magazine. That first year, the list was compiled informally by calling around to the magazine editors’ friends in the hospitality industry.

    They only realized what they had on their hands when chefs started contacting them to ask about an awards ceremony—which they hadn’t planned. The list’s popularity quickly grew, and it became a global phenomenon.

    The dining room at Eleven Madison Park.Photographer: Chris Goodney/Bloomberg
    When Copenhagen restaurant Noma first won in 2010, 100,000 people tried to book online the following day. And after El Celler de Can Roca’s 2013 victory, its website received 12 million hits. Three extra employees were hired to turn turn down requests for tables, and the waiting list grew to one year, according to chef Joan Roca.

    This is the first time that a U.S. restaurant has won since chef Thomas Keller’s French Laundry in Yountville, California, took the title in 2003 and 2004. All the subsequent winners have been European.

    The World’s 50 Best is published by William Reed Business Media. Among the major sponsors are Australia.com; S. Pellegrino & Acqua Panna; and Diners Club International.

    The second half of the list — restaurants 51 to 100 — was posted earlier online.

    The Top 50 (Last year’s place in parentheses)

    Eleven Madison Park, New York (3)
    Osteria Francescana, Modena, Italy (1)
    El Celler de Can Roca, Girona, Spain (2)
    Mirazur, Menton, France (6)
    Central, Lima (4)
    Asador Etxebarri, Axpe, Spain (10)
    Gaggan, Bangkok (23)
    Maido, Lima (13)
    Mugaritz, San Sebastian, Spain (7)
    Steirereck, Vienna (9)
    Blue Hill at Stone Barns, Pocantico Hills, New York (48)
    Arpège, Paris (19)
    Alain Ducasse au Plaza Athénée, Paris (58)
    Restaurant André, Singapore (32)
    Piazza Duomo, Alba, Italy (17)
    D.O.M., São Paulo, Brazil (11)
    Le Bernardin, New York (24)
    Narisawa, Tokyo (8)
    Geranium, Copenhagen (28)
    Pujol, Mexico City (25)
    Alinea, Chicago (15)
    Quintonil, Mexico City (12)
    White Rabbit, Moscow (18)
    Amber, Hong Kong (20)
    Tickets, Barcelona (29)
    The Clove Club, London (26)
    The Ledbury, London (14)
    Nahm, Bangkok (37)
    Le Calandre, Rubano, Italy (39)
    Arzak, San Sebastian, Spain (21)
    Pavillon Ledoyen, Paris (72)
    Attica, Melbourne (33)
    Astrid y Gastón, Lima (30)
    De Librije, Zwolle, Netherlands (38)
    Septime, Paris (50)
    Dinner by Heston Blumenthal, London (45)
    Saison, San Francisco (27)
    Azurmendi, Larrabetzu, Spain (16)
    Relae, Copenhagen (40)
    Cosme, New York (96)
    Ultraviolet by Paul Pairet, Shanghai (42)
    Boragó, Santiago (36)
    Reale, Castel di Sangro, Italy (84)
    Brae, Birregurra, Australia (65)
    Den, Tokyo (77)
    L’Astrance, Paris (57)
    Vendôme, Bergisch Gladbach, Germany (35)
    Restaurant Tim Raue, Berlin (34)
    Tegui, Buenos Aires (68)
    Hof van Cleve, Kruishoutem, Belgium (53)

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...staurants-list
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    Eleven Madison Park, New York (3)
    "Starting on April 11th, we will be exclusively serving an eleven course retrospective menu highlighting some of the most significant dishes we have served over the last 11 years. We will be serving this menu, which lasts roughly three hours, through June 9th for both Lunch and Dinner.

    The price of the menu is $295 per guest. This price is all inclusive, excluding beverages and tax. As such, gratuities are neither expected nor accepted."

    https://www.elevenmadisonpark.com/menus/

    10k baht per person plus drinks. I'll pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    10k baht per person plus drinks. I'll pass.
    However, no tipping!

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    Easily impressed by random and selected superlatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Central, Lima (4)
    I was impressed. Reservations can be difficult to make/get.

    Quote Originally Posted by S Landreth View Post
    Tonight we tried something a little different. We’re in Miraflores/Lima Peru and went to Restaurante Central for dinner.


    Clockwise: Her 2nd mojito, Fish and seeds, Hot (fish) Ceviche, Seafood tata

    Pretty good food.

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    If you're ever in Seattle and want a steak ... hit the Metropolitan Bar and Grill.

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    Needs a proper slapping @ that price.

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    I wonder if anyone here has tried Gaggan...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    I wonder if anyone here has tried Gaggan...
    Gaggan on the Pattaya Beach Strip ?

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    ...no, that one is spelled "Gaggin'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    ...no, that one is spelled "Gaggin'"
    Here we go.

    PM Sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    I wonder if anyone here has tried Gaggan...
    Yes, and Nahm. And wouldn't go back to either of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx
    Yes, and Nahm. And wouldn't go back to either of them.
    Agree. I went to Gaggan with a bunch of Hiso posers. Bunch of tiny artsy fartsy dishes. Not my spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx
    And wouldn't go back to either of them
    clientele aside: why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx
    And wouldn't go back to either of them
    clientele aside: why not?
    Where to start?. Both places make it seem like they're doing you a huge favour by accepting your reservation and serving you in the first place. Then they'll push a tasting menu on you that consists of multiple bite-sized dishes that generally look and taste fine and are described in great detail as they're served, which I guess is suppose to convince you the sky-high prices are justified. The Sommeliers suggestions of wines is a well rehearsed rip off. With even mid-range wine you'll be looking at 5-10k per head which I'm fine with as long as I leave highly satisfied, but anyone with a decent appetite will need to eat again before the night is over.

    In return, you'll be dining with people who ooooh and ahhhhh as each dish is presented and photographed before being uploaded to Facebook (a personal pet-hate when eating out) and you'll possibly get to say you've eaten in one of the world's best restaraunts and a fast food chain on the same night. There's just so many places to get better Indian or Thai food in Bangkok and let's get serious, neither cuisine lends itself to "fine dining" in the first place.

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    Thanks...I think I could have written that review myself without having eaten there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Easily impressed by random and selected superlatives.
    bibble.


    (an English restaurant)

    I thought this was going to be about the best restaurants in Thailand or (SE) Asia or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat
    These Are the World’s 50 Best Restaurants
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainNemo
    I thought this was going to be about the best restaurants in Thailand or (SE) Asia or something.
    *sigh*...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by tomcat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Headworx
    And wouldn't go back to either of them
    clientele aside: why not?
    There's just so many places to get better Indian or Thai food in Bangkok and let's get serious, neither cuisine lends itself to "fine dining" in the first place.
    Indeed. Why pay through the nose for average food when the very best can be found on just about any street in Thailand?

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