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    Best Veg I have ever found in Thailand.

    Following a thread about contaminated water in farm areas and ENT's comment about organic, I never thought to mention the veg I have been buying for some time.

    I'm quite finicky about food and I'd say 95 percent of my purchases are organic or chemical free. However, after a little research I discovered that the majority of Thailand's organic food is single batch tested. This means only one batch has to be tested to receive organic certification. But the stuff on the shelves could be a completely different batch that isn't organic.

    While searching around I accidentally dropped on a company called Madam Veggie (Shit name) claiming to be chemical free and a much higher standard than organic Thailand. I dropped them a line because I couldn't find them in the shops. They only export to the EU and sell direct, and the EU regularly visits their farm for quality displays. Anyway, they invited me to the farm and I accepted their offer. The owner ran me through the laboratory and compared their tests to others such as organic. Organic needs to pass up to 200 chem test, their produce passes over 700 including airborne. This is every single batch. He took me to another area and asked me to examine the produce. I commented on how fresh it looked and smelled. The room was for veg that didn't pass the test despite it being a much higher standard than the average market. It's incinerated or donated.

    Basically the veg and fruit is top notch and, GMO free. Incidentally, they did a survey on papaya and found that most is contaminated with airborne GMO!

    The food is also backed by many top nutritionists and doctors.

    If you want the best veg you can find, try them.





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    Interesting if it's true, EU checks also are pure BS and the only clean veggies are the ones you grow yourself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefactoryoutlet View Post
    Interesting if it's true, EU checks also are pure BS and the only clean veggies are the ones you grow yourself...
    Yeah....
    Buying into the system never lends itself to self-sufficiency and independence, regardless of what might be claimed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefactoryoutlet View Post
    Interesting if it's true, EU checks also are pure BS and the only clean veggies are the ones you grow yourself...
    Agree, but how many farms have the technology or even allow you to inspect the results for yourself.

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    ^^like I said, they are happy for you to visit if you're interested in clean food.

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    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.

    As bad as all those faddish women these days wittering on about their fucking allergies due to food intolerances.

    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.

    Typical dozy farang, worried about the crap that's fashionable but never sees the bullet that'll get him for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    Typical dozy farang, worried about the crap that's fashionable but never sees the bullet that'll get him for sure.
    Look behind you, thegent...There's a gun pointed at you...

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    Does somebody know where I can find the Thai government website with the official daily prices for vegetables ( and other farm products)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.

    As bad as all those faddish women these days wittering on about their fucking allergies due to food intolerances.

    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.

    Typical dozy farang, worried about the crap that's fashionable but never sees the bullet that'll get him for sure.
    Trying reading my post again and the comment on single batch testing. It is you that is the idiot. No doubt your haste in abuse is down to the GMO stuff you keep eating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.
    ......
    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.
    Clueless statement. A lot of GM foods are modified to be resistant to certain pesticides (round up ready for example) so that MORE chemicals can be sprayed on the fields with the modified crops being unaffected.

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    Err, which is why you will never know what's in any produce cultivated or reared in Thailand.

    My points stand. Not sure where you get this alleged abuse from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Err, which is why you will never know what's in any produce cultivated or reared in any country where large corporations make the laws
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    Fixed that for you. Your assertion that there is nothing wrong with GMO was what I was commenting on.

    Thailand is supposedly GMO free, although secondary GMO is allowed, and should be labelled. However, being Thailand, this is about as relevant as any law here; they all have price tags attached to them.

    However, I like JJ buy fruit and veg from such a place where I can go and see what they do. The one I use is a run by a couple diametrically opposed to GMO and chemicals in food and I trust them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.
    ......
    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.
    Clueless statement. A lot of GM foods are modified to be resistant to certain pesticides (round up ready for example) so that MORE chemicals can be sprayed on the fields with the modified crops being unaffected.
    Well, so what's the problem? Everything that exists comprises chemicals. We're talking about "bad" chemicals contaminating food. Getting your knickers in a twist over dogma driven drivel is just so silly. A bit like seeing the world in terms of conspiracies and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.
    ......
    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.
    Clueless statement. A lot of GM foods are modified to be resistant to certain pesticides (round up ready for example) so that MORE chemicals can be sprayed on the fields with the modified crops being unaffected.
    Well, so what's the problem? Everything that exists comprises chemicals. We're talking about "bad" chemicals contaminating food. Getting your knickers in a twist over dogma driven drivel is just so silly. A bit like seeing the world in terms of conspiracies and the like.
    Up to you. If they are so harmless, so good, why do most countries have to suppress information on it to the public?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.
    ......
    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.
    Clueless statement. A lot of GM foods are modified to be resistant to certain pesticides (round up ready for example) so that MORE chemicals can be sprayed on the fields with the modified crops being unaffected.
    Well, so what's the problem? Everything that exists comprises chemicals. We're talking about "bad" chemicals contaminating food. Getting your knickers in a twist over dogma driven drivel is just so silly. A bit like seeing the world in terms of conspiracies and the like.

    Regardless of your opinions of food, have you actually taken the time to find out for yourself, as I have?

    I used to work for Asia food and Beverage, and believe me if you knew what shit they put in your cold coffee drinks and food, you'd avoid it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Err, which is why you will never know what's in any produce cultivated or reared in Thailand.

    My points stand. Not sure where you get this alleged abuse from.
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.

    Selective memory too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^^like I said, they are happy for you to visit if you're interested in clean food.
    This sounds like a very good idea and I will be putting it on my to do list. I am currently planning a holiday down to the coast and this would be a good side trip. I may have to leave the wife and son in the car since looking at a food processing company may be beyond them. But then again, they may enjoy it. JJ, you dont happen to have their map coordinates handy do you? Thanks again for the great information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum View Post
    Err, which is why you will never know what's in any produce cultivated or reared in Thailand.

    My points stand. Not sure where you get this alleged abuse from.
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.

    Selective memory too!
    I rather think you need more protein in that diet of yours. You are babbling.

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    jj, I am not up on the benefits of these foods but wish you well in your new business venture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^^like I said, they are happy for you to visit if you're interested in clean food.
    This sounds like a very good idea and I will be putting it on my to do list. I am currently planning a holiday down to the coast and this would be a good side trip. I may have to leave the wife and son in the car since looking at a food processing company may be beyond them. But then again, they may enjoy it. JJ, you dont happen to have their map coordinates handy do you? Thanks again for the great information.
    Hi, best to call 086 336 9989 and ask for Tik who is the person I dealt with. They used to offer a sample pack with the test reports which you can ask about. Best to talk to them about visiting the farm.

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    Will do.

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    J.J. post up a really fine informational post with all the particulars on how to do it, as well his personal site visit, his credentials and never once does he say anything to anyone in a condescending manner.

    Then up pop's the Gent...wtf? Never ever a kind word about anything. What a world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Following a thread about contaminated water in farm areas and ENT's comment
    You'll be smoking the lobelia next

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    Quote Originally Posted by pseudolus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seekingasylum
    What do you mean 'contaminated" by GMO? There's fuck all wrong with GM stuff. Only idiots, neurotics and climate changers believe that shit.
    ......
    You should be worrying about the contaminated water table and all those fertilisers and pesticides they "say" are never used in their "organic" stuff.
    Clueless statement. A lot of GM foods are modified to be resistant to certain pesticides (round up ready for example) so that MORE chemicals can be sprayed on the fields with the modified crops being unaffected.
    Even beyond the technology of GMO productions, many varieties of vegetable/meat matter have been systematically and hybrid generated - creating a food product that has not retained much. Tasteless and nutritionless....this is the most apparent through the modern Western world.

    You'll find that 97% of produce [foods] of every sort that is taken in the West do not have a genus or origins - instead, invented food through generations of hybridization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post

    Then up pop's the Gent...wtf? Never ever a kind word about anything. What a world.
    One wonders which chemicals his sausages were treated with?

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