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Old 25-01-2007, 12:02 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Assuming you are serious, and please correct me if I am wrong, but I belive the glycemic index has no relevance to calories?

Anyway, the glycemic index has been criticised for the following reasons:

1) the GI of a food varies depending on the kind of food, its ripeness, the length of time it was stored, how it was cooked, its variety (potatoes from Australia, for example, have a much higher GI than potatoes from the United States[citation needed]), and how it was processed or manufactured.
2) the GI of a food varies from person to person and even in a single individual from day to day, depending on blood glucose levels, insulin resistance, and other factors.
3) the GI of a mixed meal can be difficult to predict.
4) the GI value is based on a portion that contains 50 grams of carbohydrate only.
5) a limited range of data and daily fluctuations in an individual’s glycemic response.
6) lack of endorsement by the American Diabetes Association. (It is however, endorsed by the Canadian Diabetes Association.)
No relevence to calories at all.A calorie (joule??) is the amount of energy required to heat one gram of water one degree celcius.How this relates to people,when everybodies 'body' is different,I'm fucked if I know.

GI index...how much insulin you body produces to break down 'sugars'.or to put it correctly "The glycemic index (GI) is a numerical system of measuring how much of a rise in circulating blood sugar a carbohydrate triggers—the higher the number, the greater the blood sugar response. So a low GI food will cause a small rise, while a high GI food will trigger a dramatic spike."

For me,what has worked (well a few years ago.. )is looking at food with a low GI....fats included.It can actually lower cholesterol ,but can also be quite tough on the kidneys.Even by eating foods way over your so called "more calories are burnt than calories consumed" limit,many people are able to lose weight.Fcuks up the calorie thingie all round really,but not for everybody.

The calorie theory works for some people,but not all.I know quite a tubby guy that eats a reasonable diet(average calories) and runs between 5 and 15 miles a day.He trains for marathons (does two a year)and he does not drink grog either.he is one fit and ..fat cnut.

I read a book 7 or 8 years ago called "Dine out and lose weight" by a french dude.The main thing behind it was that all suger and high GI food was poison (beer,starch and refined foods etc...but not wine.) He said that if sugar had a GI of say 100 on a 1-100 scale,then beer had a GI of 120!!)I was working out 3 times a week and lost 24kgs in two months.Gonna have to start doing it again soon...
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Well I am down to 92kg now from 95.5 in 16 days and now I have to keep pulling my pants up.
I did blow the diet for two days while we were moving the rig as the meals were sent out to us so I just ate what was sent. Heading back home in a week so I now I have to try and give the beer miss and go back to drinking JWB and soda
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so I now I have to try and give the beer miss and go back to drinking JWB and soda
Sorry to hear that you have to make such a drastic change to your lifestyle!
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[No relevence to calories at all.A calorie (joule??) is the amount of energy required to heat one gram of water one degree celcius.How this relates to people,when everybodies 'body' is different,I'm fucked if I know.

Easy - our bodies has a marvellous ability to turn excess calories into fat, which is basically a very efficient way of storing excess energy. This was obviously a tremendous advantage when living is tough, and food is scarce. Today, when we can eat whenever we feel like it, it is no longer such a good thing.

One calorie equals about 0.14 grams fat. Eat 7000 calores more than your body requires, and you put on a kg of fat. In terms of weight (of fat, that is), it doesn't really matter where the calories come from.

Weight gain or loss (fat in kg) = (Calories consumed - calories burned)/7000

Although, naturally there is a lot more to a healthy diet than counting calories.
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kjoule is not the rule of the game when it comes to diet. Who cares about them ? they just provide energy

The problem is fat, and it's easy to burn fat with Atkins. Our body is very well trained to do so, and do it very quickly and efficiently in the right mode.

So why are we getting fat ? mainly because the food we provide has "too much" calorie and not enough fat. Worse, we mix a fat diet with a high energy one, driving our body crazy and forcing it to store fat when we really don't need to.

Sugar will give our body all the energy we need and then will make anything with fat become unecessary and will store it instead. This is the root of all evil.

Sugar is like cocaine for our body. It drives our body diet mechanism crazy.
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I'm into my second week now, but I haven't weighed myself yet. While I don't feel any thinner, I'm not feeling bloated like I used to.
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so I now I have to try and give the beer miss and go back to drinking JWB and soda
Sorry to hear that you have to make such a drastic change to your lifestyle!
Tell me about it I dont know if I can do it but I will try. First thing I am going to do is stop hanging out with piss heads so I guess thats all me mates out. second thing is get back into the dirt bike action as the CR is sitting there waiting for me to put the tank on and she is ready to kick some husqvarna ass maybe see you this time home if not to busy
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it's important to weigh yourself every fucking day. And it's nice to see yourself loose 1 kg avg per day, that's what I used to lose on Level 1

Time of the day is also critical to weigh yourself

You need to read the book
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You need to read the book
I guess I should buy one first.

I have a similar book about diets which suggests that weight is less important than waist size. For instance, most texts say that I should be between 82 & 90 kgs, but I'd look like an AIDS victim if I was that light. 34" waist is the optimum, which would probably be around 93 kgs.
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Well I did try and tough it up a bit by adding some motorcycle chat in the thread. And a knitting thread would be good we can put it with the broken down old sexpat thread
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dirt bike action as the CR is sitting there waiting for me to put the tank on and she is ready to kick some husqvarna ass

Yeah, and I think we should both crank up the rear suspension and maybe even beef up the subframe to cope with the loads although my loads will be from supercross style high flyin' jumps as the husky can do that sort of thing. Bring your goggles to keep my dust out of your face.
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Is that when I lap you anyway arent you still broken
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