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    Quote Originally Posted by 12Call
    What rate of tax do farmers pay here in Thailand

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
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    My plan is to be self sufficient in LOS and am almost there:- Mushrooms:- We have 6 huts; each with 6,000 "Bottles" in giving an average of 30,000 Baht a month which covers labour, electricity and food for the family of 5.( I was on Channel 7 last Sunday!!). We will build a couple more huts next month and eventually grow 2 types..This will give more profit with no increase in labour.
    Good plan.
    Not necessarily. Someone starts something, professes how well they're doing, and everyone copies. This causes a glut and a lowering of prices and the market collapsing. Which is exactly what happened where I live with mushroom farming.
    The same goes for other crops. When the price is high everyone plants that particular crop, resulting in a glut on the next harvest and people getting their fingers burnt because they can't make a profit.
    This is a very good point..one which I bring up consistently...but we are expanding into different types.. My advantage is that I have a .......... next door that ......... because I ........... him..............

    The other thing in my original response was to have 3 ( or 4 if you count each apartment as a seperate income) totaly unrelated sources of income. If one fails, as the apartments have, then it is still self sufficient...if two or all fail I have enough in the bank to keep me going untill I recieve a pension....albeit at a much lower standard of living...

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    My personal view is that there is no profit in farming, unless you inherited the land, free of charge. Thais can't seem to work out, labour, fertilizer, insectidide land cost etc, to overall expenditure. Even if they make a loss on a crop, they will still replant the same crop for the next year in the hope that things will change. They unfortunately don't get the 'Farmers Weekly' that explains this, and therefore are on a course to remaining static within their environment. Or going backwards as per usual. Thai farming is a bollox and the only people that gain are the merchants they sell to. In my opinion.
    Death is natures way of telling you to slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
    My personal view is that there is no profit in farming, unless you inherited the land, free of charge. Thais can't seem to work out, labour, fertilizer, insectidide land cost etc, to overall expenditure. Even if they make a loss on a crop, they will still replant the same crop for the next year in the hope that things will change. They unfortunately don't get the 'Farmers Weekly' that explains this, and therefore are on a course to remaining static within their environment. Or going backwards as per usual. Thai farming is a bollox and the only people that gain are the merchants they sell to. In my opinion.
    Or even better sell to them.......

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    Thumbs up

    There is a lot to the subject and my typing skills are not up to it, but if anyone is really interested please come over [bring some beer]and I will show them around. Jim[/quote]

    Do you really live in or around Boontharik (116 k from Ubon)?????????

    If so I'll bring the beer!!!!!!!

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    There is a world wide shortage of goats. Closest big market is Malaysia. They can't get anything going there because goats like heat & dry feet. Perfect for Issarn. No black goats.

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    Profitable Farming

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    Palm oil
    Yes Palm Oil, my wifes father has 150 Rai in Suratthani province and he is making big money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gibbon View Post
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    The farms around us went over to long banana but i didn't want to , it seems it was a good idea as we are getting 20b a hand and it will go up my wife said.
    Our small banana are bringing in a nice little income on the side which is nice. We have 15000 sqm.
    Just curious. How many stalks of bananas from a single plant? It was/is my understanding that you only got one fruiting per plant and then it was useless. It must be quite a process to continue removing non-productive plants so that the others on the rhizome can produce.

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    No problem, just cut it off and another sucker follows to produce another bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsicar View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary
    What one brings in the most bucks.
    Prices vary, harvests vary, demand varies.
    I very much doubt there is a best crop.
    The best you can do is to grow 2 or 3 to help even it out and stop having any disaster years

    ask the thais:


    they make their only profit when there is a disaster.
    government loans, bailouts, etc.

    all farming in thailand is very small profit stuff; enough to pay for some basic electricity and booze. for the rest of the year you do ok if you are prepared to eat lizards and rice and shit.
    trick is to do it cleverer than the thais do. not difficult, and ok as a sideline, but it's probably not gonna support a farang lifestyle.
    i saw some do ok on rubber, but you need vast tracts of land and lots of time.
    to get back your initial investment may never happen.

    All farming in Thailand is very small profit !..........Completely wrong.
    Maybe this does apply to Isaan, but in the south they are making big money from Palm Oil and Rubber..............just visit Tesco Lotus in Suratthani, everybody seems to be driving new cars and new housing is going up like mushrooms.
    Talking of mushrooms, my wifes mother grows Shitaki mushrooms and does very well as she has to pick every day over a period of 3 months before having to replant, its really worth a go, just have to build a shed and install water sprays.

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    Bell Peppers are very expensive here in Thailand.

    Anyone know why?

    Are they hard to grow here?

    I'm growing some in the garden, they seem to doing be OK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cattracks View Post
    There is a lot to the subject and my typing skills are not up to it, but if anyone is really interested please come over [bring some beer]and I will show them around. Jim
    Do you really live in or around Boontharik (116 k from Ubon)?????????

    If so I'll bring the beer!!!!!!![/quote]
    Yes I my be mad but I live about 25 km south/east of Buntharik. The factory is about 7 km south of Buntharik..
    PM or email me with a phone number and we can meet up for a beer. Bring a hammock not a good idea to be driving after dark around some parts. Jim

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    What about Ducks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scottish Gary View Post
    Its aways interesting to see the different variations of farming that members on here indulge in. We've had rice,cassava, potatoes, pigs, fish, rubber, mushrooms, bananas and probably a few more that i cant remember. So what is the NO1. What one brings in the most bucks.
    On a recent trip to Buriram I looked at many, many rice fields, but could not see any Ducks being hearded through these rice fields - like in Bali for instance?
    When I asked in the Village I stayed in why they don't have Ducks...nobody came up with a good answer.
    Would raising Ducks be a profitable option? Has anyone done this?

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    We have 350 ducks but the wife has decided to get rid of them. They can't roam through the fields during the rice season and have to be confined to their own ponds. They eat every bit of vegetation and have to be fed. Not sure of the cost but my wife's always moaning about the high cost of the feed.

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    What about cashew nuts or aloe vera?

    Anyone tried cashews or aloe? I know aloe needs to be process on site to keep from dehydrating or oxidating, but every new-age thing under the sun has it in it now. Cashews are very productive but need to be sold to a processor. Anyone tried 'um or know the market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by albarb
    Would raising Ducks be a profitable option?
    Dunno, but if you're into sustainable agriculture a family near us has ducks & fish ponds in a little ecosystem- basically the duck cages are over the water, & the fish eat the duck shit. The rice straw they put down for nesting also makes tremendous fertilizer for their veggie garden. Killer weed too.

    Then theres the pigs- not much goes to waste there.

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