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jandajoy · 25-10-2009, 12:54 PM

Started drying 'em out this morning

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 09:12 AM

Awesome....nice colour.

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 09:13 AM

But I am wondering.....do they have an endless supply of cows they can knock off when someone syas they want just the skin ??

I do feel kind of guilty now....ordering the hit of 4 cows is not an easy thing to live with.

jandajoy · 26-10-2009, 09:16 AM

He's got 2 on the go now. The second was delivered yesterday in the back of is tractor. One dismembered cow lying on the deck. I asked him about horned skulls. Might be possible sometime.

jandajoy · 26-10-2009, 10:10 AM

How to Get Cowhides Tanned
Step 1
Soak your skin in a vat of water overnight. Then stretch your hide, hair side down, on a large flat board, such as a piece of 3/4-inch particle board or plywood. If necessary, use your knife to make small holes near the edge of your hide and pass ropes through the holes. Stake the ropes to pull your hide tight.
Step 2
Scrape the hide with your dull knife to remove any fat or meat still attached. If the hide is thick, use your dull knife to slowly and carefully scrape the hide until it is thinner. If you do not want the hair left on your cowhide, turn the hide over, rub the hair side with a mixture of urine and the ash from an old barbecue or wood fire, then scrape the hair off with your dull knife, being careful not to cut into the hide itself. This is a long and smelly process.
Step 3
Place dog and/or pigeon dung into a vat and add a small amount of warm water. Use a wooden pole with a flat end to squish the dung into a paste. This is a smelly and disgusting part of the process, but the enzymes in the dung break down the collagen in the skin of your hide and make the leather soft and supple. Immerse your hide into the dog dung and use your pole to continue pushing your hide deeper and deeper into the dung, stirring it and using the pole to help break down the hide. Once your hide has become soft and supple lay it out flat where it can be hosed off, and properly dispose of the dog dung. Clean your vat.
Step 4
Fill your vat with medium hot water and stir in your crushed oak bark. Use your pole to continue crushing and breaking up the bark. The water should become a dark reddish brown color. This is tannin being leached from the oak bark. Once the water is a good, deep color add your hide into the vat and continue stirring until your hide is completely soaked. Allow your hide to soak in the tannin solution for a minimum of two full days.
Step 5
Pull your hide out of the tannin solution and lay it flat out of direct sunlight. Allow the leather to dry for at least 1 day. Your leather should now be soft and supple and ready to make into shoes, belts, or used for whatever purpose you wish.

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 10:38 AM

Dog shit shoes....sweet.

First thing....I hate dog shit....second thing....I hate pigeon shit, but doable.

Third thing....no oak trees here that I know of.

So, need an alternative to dog and pigeon shit.....buffalo would be good, also elephant as both in good supply here.

Also an alternative to oak, one would think there should be a local tree that spits out tannins willingly

jandajoy · 26-10-2009, 10:45 AM

Joy just had a chat with the old bloke who's working on your skin. She asked about "shit" for tanning and all the other stuff.

His response, and my translation may not be perfect, was

"Tell the Falang to fuck off and leave me alone."

Seems reasonable........

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 11:57 AM

Excellent customer service we have come to expect and admire...

Norton · 26-10-2009, 01:09 PM

Possible the Chokchai Ranch will have an abundance of cowhides. Check there.

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 01:18 PM

They don't slaughter....just milk.

Norton · 26-10-2009, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nawty

They don't slaughter....just milk.

Even old Holsteins die.

Nawty · 26-10-2009, 01:28 PM

I cannot just hang around waiting for a shitter cow to die.

jandajoy · 26-10-2009, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nawty

Excellent customer service we have come to expect and admire...

I thought it fair comment considering his remuneration

Nawty · 27-10-2009, 10:13 AM

and diligant work ethic at letting him get on with it and stop the petty annoyances.....I like him.

26-10-2009, 10:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
jandajoy Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 08:11 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 14,210	How to Get Cowhides Tanned Step 1 Soak your skin in a vat of water overnight. Then stretch your hide, hair side down, on a large flat board, such as a piece of 3/4-inch particle board or plywood. If necessary, use your knife to make small holes near the edge of your hide and pass ropes through the holes. Stake the ropes to pull your hide tight. Step 2 Scrape the hide with your dull knife to remove any fat or meat still attached. If the hide is thick, use your dull knife to slowly and carefully scrape the hide until it is thinner. If you do not want the hair left on your cowhide, turn the hide over, rub the hair side with a mixture of urine and the ash from an old barbecue or wood fire, then scrape the hair off with your dull knife, being careful not to cut into the hide itself. This is a long and smelly process. Step 3 Place dog and/or pigeon dung into a vat and add a small amount of warm water. Use a wooden pole with a flat end to squish the dung into a paste. This is a smelly and disgusting part of the process, but the enzymes in the dung break down the collagen in the skin of your hide and make the leather soft and supple. Immerse your hide into the dog dung and use your pole to continue pushing your hide deeper and deeper into the dung, stirring it and using the pole to help break down the hide. Once your hide has become soft and supple lay it out flat where it can be hosed off, and properly dispose of the dog dung. Clean your vat. Step 4 Fill your vat with medium hot water and stir in your crushed oak bark. Use your pole to continue crushing and breaking up the bark. The water should become a dark reddish brown color. This is tannin being leached from the oak bark. Once the water is a good, deep color add your hide into the vat and continue stirring until your hide is completely soaked. Allow your hide to soak in the tannin solution for a minimum of two full days. Step 5 Pull your hide out of the tannin solution and lay it flat out of direct sunlight. Allow the leather to dry for at least 1 day. Your leather should now be soft and supple and ready to make into shoes, belts, or used for whatever purpose you wish. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

26-10-2009, 10:38 AM	#26 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	Dog shit shoes....sweet. First thing....I hate dog shit....second thing....I hate pigeon shit, but doable. Third thing....no oak trees here that I know of. So, need an alternative to dog and pigeon shit.....buffalo would be good, also elephant as both in good supply here. Also an alternative to oak, one would think there should be a local tree that spits out tannins willingly __________________ *'Owner of 'Arse of the year 2008'......* *First after the winner... 'International Architect of the year 09'* Last edited by Nawty : 26-10-2009 at 11:58 AM.

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25-10-2009, 12:54 PM	#21 (permalink)
jandajoy Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 08:11 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 14,210	Started drying 'em out this morning

26-10-2009, 09:12 AM	#22 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	Awesome....nice colour.

26-10-2009, 09:13 AM	#23 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	But I am wondering.....do they have an endless supply of cows they can knock off when someone syas they want just the skin ?? I do feel kind of guilty now....ordering the hit of 4 cows is not an easy thing to live with.

26-10-2009, 09:16 AM	#24 (permalink)
jandajoy Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 08:11 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 14,210	He's got 2 on the go now. The second was delivered yesterday in the back of is tractor. One dismembered cow lying on the deck. I asked him about horned skulls. Might be possible sometime.

26-10-2009, 10:45 AM	#27 (permalink)
jandajoy Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: Today 08:11 AM Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: out bush Chiang Rai way Posts: 14,210	Joy just had a chat with the old bloke who's working on your skin. She asked about "shit" for tanning and all the other stuff. His response, and my translation may not be perfect, was "Tell the Falang to fuck off and leave me alone." Seems reasonable........

26-10-2009, 11:57 AM	#28 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	Excellent customer service we have come to expect and admire...

26-10-2009, 01:09 PM	#29 (permalink)
Norton Days Work Done! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Roiet Posts: 11,541	Possible the Chokchai Ranch will have an abundance of cowhides. Check there.

26-10-2009, 01:18 PM	#30 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	They don't slaughter....just milk.

26-10-2009, 01:28 PM	#32 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	I cannot just hang around waiting for a shitter cow to die.

27-10-2009, 10:13 AM	#34 (permalink)
Nawty Boxed Member Last Online: Yesterday 03:37 PM Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: in a box marked 'fragile' Posts: 5,756	and diligant work ethic at letting him get on with it and stop the petty annoyances.....I like him.

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