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    Fences & Other Update 27 February 2019

    Very pleased to report the front west boundary fence is now in place after the four wires were tensioned and secured this morning. Only thing I need to do along it is shift a bit of fill about to reduce hills and fill in valleys/holes.



    This morning I positioned the end fence post of the barbed wire fence on the east boundary. I've decided the two meter sheet metal fence around the back yard will extend about eight meters towards the road past the east concrete wall. I won't concrete this post in yet, I'll do that when the metal fence is installed since it will have an end post that will need to butt up against this post. And speaking of the east concrete wall...the end of it was positioned at the old fence line. Now I've run a string line between the two boundary corner pegs it would seem the old fence encroached/bowed into our land by 40cm at that point, hence the concrete wall is short of the boundary by 40cm. Will fix it using a short cross piece of the sheet metal fence.

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    Decided to draw some pictures of the front boundary fencing design for the two local Thai workers. Even walked them through it to the extent I had a measuring tape and darn near laid out everything with them. About an hour later they call me out (via the wife) because something doesn't look right. They had started on the east side of the drive and were standing on the road and interpreting the diagram. Even after in my explanation I showed them the diagrams were from inside the property looking towards the road. I'm constantly telling the wife I despair for her country.

    (BTW...it may not be clear but what I'm doing at the front is building the barbed wire fence so it is primarily anchored on posts next to the two thick gate posts. One of the gate posts is cracked from a truck backing into it and I'm planning to eventually replace them and the amateur metal gates.)

    From the inside of the property this is the fence design for the front boundary on the west side of the drive.


    They got that right although I'm not sure why they have not positioned the last fence post. Suspect they want to question why I've got them so close here. The photo is from the road side.


    The fence design for the east side of the drive.
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    The wife bought a little garden house online. To be honest it looks like a good piece of kit for 3,900 baht and has lifted her mood. In a foolish statement I may have even said she could get another. This location is temporary. Going to put down some more concrete apron on the east side of the house as a garden workspace; likely the kitchen/herb garden will not come to fruition.





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    And finally today this is what happens when you stumble while carrying one end of a concrete post (out of the Hilux) and fall backwards over another concrete post with the sharp metal bits that hold the wire pointed up. Landed on my back in a bit of a shallow hole with my head and shoulders in the deeper end. Almost wiped out one of the Yellow India trees on the way down. With the post still on top of me and hands in thick leather gloves I initially couldn't get up. Felt and suspect looked like an upended tortoise for a bit. Wife keen to get me down for a tetanus shot but I've declined. Washed it out, put Betadine and an anti-bacteria cream on it. Bit deeper than it looks down the bottom. Should be enough.



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    Hey BIP, Do you have a bovine issue in your parts? I ask as I saw your fence has barbed wire. Just curious.

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    Actually, barbed wire is used all over rural Thailand as it's cheap and gets the job done - deters kemoys.

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    Yeah cattle and the odd buffalo are grazed on both sides of us about 40% of the time.
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    Hey BIP, Do you have a bovine issue in your parts? I ask as I saw your fence has barbed wire. Just curious.

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    If you can't keep them bare foot, pregnant and in the kitchen (and I've failed on all three), this is the next best thing.

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    Agree about the cheap. Only paid 1,040 baht yesterday for four 6 kg rolls of barbed wire, expecting to get about 50 meters out of each.
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    Actually, barbed wire is used all over rural Thailand as it's cheap and gets the job done - deters kemoys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    Yeah cattle and the odd buffalo are grazed on both sides of us about 40% of the time.
    OK, makes sense. I see people using Barbed wire and that stuff is nasty as a fence material for a myriad of reasons. While cheap as Boon Mee states there are drawbacks unless of course your property is butted up against livestock owners then its practical and functional

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    Got all of the posts cemented in for the front boundary. Will put barbed wire and small tensioners on them tomorrow and paint them white in the next week.

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    The fences around the front yard continue to progress but so does our vegetable gardens in the backyard. We've still got four varieties of green and red lettuce growing quicker than we can eat it. Also planted now are zucchini, tomatoes, cherry tomatoes, beans, bok choy, morning glory, corn and melons. Something is attacking the melons, corn and bok choy but not obvious what. No visible pests and while some plants look like they'll survive we will not use chemical pesticides. However I am going to make up a batch or white vinegar infused with citrus peels for a couple of weeks and see if that makes a difference when applied.

    Still trying to source a supply of teak off-cuts so the wife can get rid of the temporary plastic and foam barriers she has used to define the garden rows inside of the raised beds.

    The lettuce garden.


    We built a couple of rudimentary trellises today out of bamboo and twine. This one is for the tomato plants. Bit hard to see the horizontal and vertical twine but I assure you it is there.


    And this one is for the zucchinis. Will need to put one on the row behind it soon for the long beans.
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    The fence on the front east boundary is now complete. The nearer leaner/support post and short peg are temporary. This nearer end of the fence will butt up against a two meter sheet metal fence that runs around the back yard. When that fence is installed I'll concrete in the nearest fence post.

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    Today we dug the holes and positioned the two corner heavy posts that will anchor the retaining wall in the north west corner. These posts are two meters high and weigh about 125 kgs each. Quite a wrestle to get them sixty meters from the front roadside, down into the holes over broken ground and then horizontally and vertically aligned correctly. Tomorrow and Tuesday I'll have three local Thais helping with the goal tomorrow to dig the holes for the three other heavy posts, get the posts into them and concrete all five. There will be three or four additional posts along the west boundary but as the wall height is much lower there I'll be using less heavy posts.





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    Today we positioned the last three of five heavy posts for the retaining wall and concreted all five in place. Hit a problem with the one along the north boundary. We hit two layers of thick concrete slab that must have been from the old building slab that was ripped up back in August. We were able to drag one slab piece out of the way but the other wouldn't budge. As the only way forward was to stay with the hole depth we already had or use a heavy digging bar for God knows how long (and pray there was not yet another piece of slab below that) we took the easiest option. Means I have not anchored that post in undisturbed ground but in terms of aesthetics I don't care because it will be behind a two meter metal fence. Another slight setback was when I went to purchase the concrete fence posts from my local supplier (to use for the wall slats) they had sold out. I had alerted them last week I'd be wanting to buy 40-50 early this week and they said they would have them ready, but clearly didn't do a thing. So 4,000 baht of my business went elsewhere this afternoon.





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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    The wife bought a little garden house online. To be honest it looks like a good piece of kit for 3,900 baht and has lifted her mood. In a foolish statement I may have even said she could get another. This location is temporary. Going to put down some more concrete apron on the east side of the house as a garden workspace; likely the kitchen/herb garden will not come to fruition.





    That looks great BiP but I hope it is well fastened down.

    it looks to be a prime candidate for arialisation when the strong winds come!

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    Not well fastened at all TD. There are eight tie downs but they use U-shaped wires as stakes. We'll be right until the thunderstorms start in about a month or two. Regards, -BiP
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    That looks great BiP but I hope it is well fastened down.

    it looks to be a prime candidate for arialisation when the strong winds come!

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    Retaining Wall Update Midday 5 March 2019

    Quite a lot of heavy work on the retaining wall this morning. Will continue for another day or so. Got three locals helping at the moment and it has been needed.





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    Have run out of posts today so will concrete in the three remaining support posts today and start to back-fill the retaining wall.







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    Quote Originally Posted by BoganInParasite View Post
    Got three locals helping at the moment and it has been needed.
    The joys of working with Thai soil, like a rock in the dry season and quicksand in the wet season, sure the help is much appreciated.
    Coming along nicely, getting hot during the days now, don't overdo it
    Good luck.

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    Clever use of materials for that retaining wall, BiP.

    I will probably copy that when we build up the land for the car port.

    i didn't catch how far into the ground the upright posts are?

    if my maths is right, the horizontal 'beams' are around 90 THB each?

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    Thanks A2. I tend to work with them and as hard for 3-4 hours in the morning, then tidy up and check their progress before they go at 3:00pm. Temps here now 19-20 to 35-37 but with low humidity. Expecting overnight temps to go up 4-5 degrees by the end of the month and daytime be 36-39 degrees. Still reasonably nice weather but sky smoky now, but less so that much of the north. Regards, -BiP
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    The joys of working with Thai soil, like a rock in the dry season and quicksand in the wet season, sure the help is much appreciated.
    Coming along nicely, getting hot during the days now, don't overdo it
    Good luck.

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    Well planned so far, BIP.

    Looking forward to see what type of hardwood/broad leaf that you might be going with.

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    Paying 100 baht here for the posts, did have one bloke try on a farang price of 120 baht but when his son came out of the office and he could speak English just said I want 10 for 1,000 and I'll buy up to fifty this month. Did the trick.

    I'm being a little cheeky using concrete fence posts like this and an almost two meter span between the uprights but I really am not expecting much of a load to be placed on them. Just in case I'm not concreting the horizontal posts. In the future if one cracks then I'll be able to lift the posts out individually within a panel, replace the cracked one and reposition the others.

    I think I previously indicated in the house build thread that I'd budgeted 40,000 baht for the wall. Currently expecting it will be heavy posts 2,000 baht, other posts 500, horizontal fence posts 5,500, cement 500, sand/pebbles for concrete 1,400, back hoe prep 1,500, back hoe cleanup 1,500 and labour 5,200. Total of 18,100 baht. Might have to throw some extra at some fill and I'm still thinking about adding another row of horizontal posts to take it up another 10cm. Could see the cost lift another 1,500-2,500 baht. Regards, -BiP
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    Clever use of materials for that retaining wall, BiP.

    I will probably copy that when we build up the land for the car port.

    i didn't catch how far into the ground the upright posts are?

    if my maths is right, the horizontal 'beams' are around 90 THB each?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thai Dhupp View Post
    Clever use of materials for that retaining wall, BiP.

    I will probably copy that when we build up the land for the car port.
    Yes, but I wonder if it could be half the price with alternating the posts on each side of the corner, one on top of the end of the other (like a log cabin but without the cut-out) and with each span? The gaps will not matter.

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