Thread: สาธารณประโยชน์ S̄āṭhārṇprayochn̒ untitled land

Anyone know is this the correct way Thai's describe Untilted land.

I'm hoping to build a Pigsty on untilted land, though I want it to have a concrete base, through my understanding, you can't build a fixed structure on this type of land is this correct.?

Ask your new buddy za? LOL...

Originally Posted by Chico

Anyone know is this the correct way Thai's describe Untilted land.

Aren't you married to a Thai?

http://www.dla.go.th/work/e_book/eb1/std210550/27/6.pdf

If you guy can read thai...Cuz I dont know how to translate to english ...

Originally Posted by Chico

'm hoping to build a Pigsty on untilted land, though I want it to have a concrete base,

I built a concrete drive onto my property 11 years ago and no one has made me take it up. Others have done the same. To build a pigsty I'd have thought you'd need to submit plans being as it's a structure.

Is your home built on untitled land.?

Za thanks I think i got the answer before.

Originally Posted by Nicethaiza

http://www.dla.go.th/work/e_book/eb1/std210550/27/6.pdf

If you guy can read thai...Cuz I dont know how to translate to english ...

Chico, not sure, but think it is something about public land, so no pig farms.

Jim the info I got before, was if you place a concrete base down and the land dept decide you can't be prepared that you have to take it go away.

No mention of it being a pig farm, on the same land before we had cows and ducks.

The PYB is going to check to make sure.

Originally Posted by Chico

Is your home built on untitled land.?

Nah, it's all singing and dancing 'Chanote' titled land. But as I said my drive is on public land.

Originally Posted by Chico

Jim the info I got before, was if you place a concrete base down and the land dept decide you can't be prepared that you have to take it go away.

No mention of it being a pig farm, on the same land before we had cows and ducks.

The PYB is going to check to make sure.

As said, not sure, but public land is like a common in the UK, people graze their cows on school, tassiban or Amphor lands, but have no rights over that land.

Prag, have no title for my house, in a village, no one for miles around has charnote, it's not a problem, just too far from the main road.
Village keeps track of who owns what, when the charnote people come you get title, but the village controlled area is the village, outside the small area, land is controlled by other agencies.

HH will find that what I said in post #5 to be correct. He can make a concrete access to gain entry onto property but cannot build a structure ie a pigsty. No need to go to the PYB. His missus would know how things go down.

Pragmatic you may find in the OP, that's what I said though because of differing opinion decided to find out from a different source.

Through my understanding it's not public land its fenced and been in the family for many years, when Thaksin was in power, they could have got the chanote if the three families concerned with the surrounding land agreed one family wouldn't agree because of some dispute they had.

The PYB after his morning told me I tink to mut,you no have ploblem

Easy for him to say that. Go to the land office and ask there. Public land is fenced off in the UK. Would you go and build on that without permission?

Originally Posted by Chico

they could have got the chanote

A 'Chanote' is a land title, one of many, it's the best you can get. Same as mine is titled in post 10. 'Chanote' does not mean 'papers of land ownership'.

As you mentioned you have a driveway on untitled land, if they want to they can ask you to take it away they can, as I previously posted they can ask my wife to take the structure away when built.

Though the chances are very slim in both are cases.

Give me the Edit button back Mods.

Originally Posted by Chico

Through my understanding it's not public land its fenced and been in the family for many years,

So, do you think the 'family' is just gonna let you walk on and build a pigsty? Two things a Thai will fight over. Women and land. Get yer boxing gloves out HH.

It's for the family to become self-sufficient, and for a possible little venture when the house is built on Chanote land.

Originally Posted by Pragmatic

Go to the land office and ask there

Sounds the proper first step.

That's who the PYB telephones.

Originally Posted by Chico

That's who the PYB telephones.

Building etc has fook all to do with the Poo Yai Baan. Its the Or Bor Tor that controls building permits.

'Poo Yai Baan' is an elected official of a village sub-division. He generally takes care of the security, village fund, and day-to-day matters. He answers to the Kamnan.

The Kamnan is the head of the village and usually has several Poo Yai Baans working for him. He is also an elected (by the village) official.

Or Bor Tor issued building permit license


Construction License, Building Alteration License, or Tearing Down Building License

No. 00000/2555
License is given to _______-_______ the owner of a building, residing at __-__ Alley/Soi - Road ___-___ Moo __-__ Tambon/Kweang _____-______ Amphur/Khet ______-_______ Province ______-_______
Clause 1 To construct a building (green area ___) At - Alley/Soi - Road - Moo - Tambon/Kweang - Amphur/Khet - Province - in Nor.Sor. 3 no xxxx which is the land of ___________-____________
Clause 2 To be a ...................................... building
Type ............................ amount ............. to be .................. with an area/length of .................. - square meters. A parking, a u-turn area, and an entrance/exit for.................. car(s) with the area of - square meters.
Type ............................ amount ............... to be .................. with an area/length of ................. - square meters. A parking, a u-turn area, and an entrance/exit for ................. car(s) with the area of .......................... square meters.
Type ............................ amount ............... to be .................. with an area/length of ................. - square meters. A parking, a u-turn area, and an entrance/exit for ................ car(s) with the area of .......................... square meters.
according to an area plan, a blueprint, details of a blueprint, and details of a calculation no ...........................
Clause 3 Mr. ............................... is the foreman
Clause 4 A licensee shall follow conditions below:
A licensee shall follow principles, methods, and conditions according to ministerial regulations and/or local registrations; section 8 (11), section 9, or section 10 of the Building Control Act B.E. 2522. The building(s) is calculated by Mr. ___-___ In case of a blueprint violates other relevant laws, a licensee shall follow those laws.
This license is valid until ............. month ............. B.E. .............
Issued on .............. month .............. B.E. ..............
(signed) ............../s/...........
(Mr. ...................................)
Position ...........................
(official seal being affixed)

Licenses in the area where we live don't exist.

Why would I want to go the land office when the PYB does it for you, you go there and sit all ferking day, you can't even give the bottle of whiskey nowadays to get it done quickly.

Pragmatic either your family has no pull in the area you live or you don't know the PYB

Originally Posted by Chico

It's for the family to become self-sufficient, and for a possible little venture when the house is built on Chanote land.

Outside of the land part, forget pigs, no money in small pig farms and if your outlaws were interested in pig farming, why didn't they try before.

They want to be self sufficient, go get a job an prove they are willing to work first.
Is your family landless, if not what are they doing with their land, growing vegetables, planting fruit trees etc.
Small financial investments, but lots of labor involved, or are they into laying around looking for handouts.

Keep away from village land deals that involve relatives and everyone is related, keep away from any farming ideas, most rural Thais know nothing about pigs, chickens, ducks or any thing outside of basic rice growing.

They will tell you they are experts on this or that, but ask a simple question about , food costs, antibiotics and you will get blank looks.

Originally Posted by Chico

Licenses in the area where we live don't exist.

They will do but you ain't interested in doing things correctly. Do not go by village laws, word of mouth, you'll get bitten on the arse in the end.

Jim we are building a home on the farm land I wish my family to eat food that I know where it comes from.

It has nothing to do with my wife's family,I have wanted to do this for a long time though because of all the robbing bstards around the area,haven't we will be living on the land and will be able to secure the property ourselves, the little venture we may do doesn't cost anything to us, it is a restaurant around are large pond that we will provide to ladies that will cook and buy everything from us. there is very little outlay.