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    Weeds - Best way to rid of?

    Weeds - Best way to rid of?

    Over the last few months my garden has been overrun by weeds. As soon as the grass is cut within days they are back.

    Is there any suitable weed killer (safe) that won't destroy the grass? At present, the only section not infected is a the front of the house were is receives most of the sunshine.

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    JJ ... the type of weed will determine the type of herbicide used.

    The easiest weed to remove from a grass lawn is a 'broad-leaf' weed. There are many sprays designed to remove that and leave a 'cooch' style lawn unaffected.


    The major tip is, once the lawn is established is to leave the lawn long, but cut often. A longer leafed lawn prevents the weed seed reaching the soil and thus growing.

    Hope that helps.
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    ^Thanks for the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Weeds - Best way to rid of?

    Over the last few months my garden has been overrun by weeds. As soon as the grass is cut within days they are back.

    Is there any suitable weed killer (safe) that won't destroy the grass? At present, the only section not infected is a the front of the house were is receives most of the sunshine.

    Thanks






    Any herbicide for broad leaf plants

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    Roundup is popular in Australia.
    In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.

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    I'd take up the top 3-4 inches of the soil you currently have and re-cover with soil taken from the rice paddies.
    This is what I did. Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.


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    Will check it. Need a mower then as I usually pay for the folks looking after the area to do it once a month.

    I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?
    Grass is hard to kill. I never water mine and allow it to die back during Nov to May. It always recovers once the rains come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.
    Same thing I do. Works well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.
    Same thing I do. Works well.

    Indeed - natural and practical solution without adding more harmful crap to the environment.

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    ^ These are natural and practical to boot!

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    JJ for the size of the garden you have why don't you just block pave it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic View Post
    JJ for the size of the garden you have why don't you just block pave it?
    We've done that at our place in Bang Kea, personally, I don't like it. I am planning to landscape where the weeds are growing fast to manage it better. Better for my daughter in the garden to play than slippy surfaces as well.

    There is a section that runs down the other side, only about 2 meters wide, which is mainly sand with grass growing through it. I will definately pave that area.

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    Weeds.
    All relative.


    One's weeds are another's garden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam03 View Post
    Roundup is popular in Australia.
    In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
    What ever you do, DON'T use Roundup ... it will kill everything.
    Roundup and other herbacides which contain is isopropylamine salt of glyphosate, it is indiscriminate and will kill everything.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    Will check it. Need a mower then as I usually pay for the folks looking after the area to do it once a month.

    I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?
    Some Councils in Australia are using steam to selectively spot kill weeds, but it's not designed to cover large areas.


    Grass requires full sun to out compete other plants, so any areas, such as the base of a 6' high brick wall, which doesn't receive adequate sunlight will look patchy and bare.


    Ditto, areas under trees.

    Under tress, there is what is referred to as the drip zone. when it rains on trees, Usually the rain is repelled by the canopy, in the same way a roof does for a building. The rain follows the leaf canopy and falls eventually 'at the drip line'.



    So, the grass usually does poorly because of the lack of rain and sunlight under trees.


    One of the main reasons we say to mow often and high is because grass can dominate the ground through spreading their stolons and rhizomes.



    Weeds usually propagate by going to seed and then relying on the seed to fall on bare ground and take root.

    By cutting your grass high and often, the weeds can't get to the seed stage and thus, can't spread.

    That weed theory applies to most weeds, but not all. Bindi or technically Soliva sessili is one.


    BTW, I love grass, walking on a good grass lawn is like a massage for your feet.
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    Betty has a spare goat for sale,there'll trim your grass as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam03 View Post
    Roundup is popular in Australia.
    In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
    You can buy gysophate in Thailand,which is the main ingredient in round up, but it will kill everything including the grass. Only use if you plan on redoing the grass.2-4-d is a good broad leaf herbicide.

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    The grass coverage looks sparse. Are you fertilizing regularly? Weeds take hold where the grass is not thick and strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The grass coverage looks sparse. Are you fertilizing regularly? Weeds take hold where the grass is not thick and strong.
    Never fertilized but the grass has always been health and green until recently.

    I will just mow in the meantime as plans have changed overnight as we are likely to build an extension for the parents in that area.

    As per usual, My Thai family waited for the wheels to fall off before taking action and preventing. For months I have been talking my wife into building an extension for the parents rather than spending half the week in Bang Kea. A fall and hospitilization of the FL has now convinced the wife. It was only 2 weeks ago I warned them he was too frail.

    No such thing as preemtive measure in Thailand.

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    The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.

    ...and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.

    Perspectives will vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Humbert View Post
    The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.

    ...and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.

    Perspectives will vary.

    Quite true.

    At the Farm, almost not a blade of grass to be seen.

    The only time is deemed usefull is when it stabilizes the pond bank/levee.


    I'm still a huge fan ... but in the appropriate places and the right species.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RPETER65 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by adam03 View Post
    Roundup is popular in Australia.
    In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
    You can buy gysophate in Thailand,which is the main ingredient in round up, but it will kill everything including the grass. Only use if you plan on redoing the grass.2-4-d is a good broad leaf herbicide.
    Yep, glyphosate is the active ingredient in Roundup.It will kill everything it touches. Roundup drift...where the wind catches it and takes it to the neighbours property has caused many arguments in NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    Perspectives will vary
    Quote Originally Posted by thaimeme
    and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.
    Perspectives will vary.
    Normally the perspective of the owner is the one that matters not some knob who likes weeds and thinks everybody else should too.

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