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Farming & Gardening In Thailand Tips on how to achieve a beautiful tropical garden. How to grow those orchids, deter pests from your Fruit and Vegetables, or growing your own Thai Spices & Herbs. Feel free to post your pictures and stories about Thai National parks, or any questions you may have about your pets and animals or even Thai Snakes.

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Old 12-01-2017, 11:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Weeds - Best way to rid of?

Weeds - Best way to rid of?

Over the last few months my garden has been overrun by weeds. As soon as the grass is cut within days they are back.

Is there any suitable weed killer (safe) that won't destroy the grass? At present, the only section not infected is a the front of the house were is receives most of the sunshine.

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JJ ... the type of weed will determine the type of herbicide used.

The easiest weed to remove from a grass lawn is a 'broad-leaf' weed. There are many sprays designed to remove that and leave a 'cooch' style lawn unaffected.


The major tip is, once the lawn is established is to leave the lawn long, but cut often. A longer leafed lawn prevents the weed seed reaching the soil and thus growing.

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Weeds - Best way to rid of?

Over the last few months my garden has been overrun by weeds. As soon as the grass is cut within days they are back.

Is there any suitable weed killer (safe) that won't destroy the grass? At present, the only section not infected is a the front of the house were is receives most of the sunshine.

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Any herbicide for broad leaf plants
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Roundup is popular in Australia.
In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
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I'd take up the top 3-4 inches of the soil you currently have and re-cover with soil taken from the rice paddies.
This is what I did. Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.

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Will check it. Need a mower then as I usually pay for the folks looking after the area to do it once a month.

I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?
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I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?
Grass is hard to kill. I never water mine and allow it to die back during Nov to May. It always recovers once the rains come.
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Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.
Same thing I do. Works well.
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Whatever comes up you just keep mowing. Weeds don't like being cut back grass does. The grass will overcome.
Same thing I do. Works well.

Indeed - natural and practical solution without adding more harmful crap to the environment.
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JJ for the size of the garden you have why don't you just block pave it?
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JJ for the size of the garden you have why don't you just block pave it?
We've done that at our place in Bang Kea, personally, I don't like it. I am planning to landscape where the weeds are growing fast to manage it better. Better for my daughter in the garden to play than slippy surfaces as well.

There is a section that runs down the other side, only about 2 meters wide, which is mainly sand with grass growing through it. I will definately pave that area.
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Weeds.
All relative.


One's weeds are another's garden.
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Roundup is popular in Australia.
In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
What ever you do, DON'T use Roundup ... it will kill everything.
Roundup and other herbacides which contain is isopropylamine salt of glyphosate, it is indiscriminate and will kill everything.


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Will check it. Need a mower then as I usually pay for the folks looking after the area to do it once a month.

I was reading viniger, or boiling water will do the trick, but won't this destroy the grass too?
Some Councils in Australia are using steam to selectively spot kill weeds, but it's not designed to cover large areas.


Grass requires full sun to out compete other plants, so any areas, such as the base of a 6' high brick wall, which doesn't receive adequate sunlight will look patchy and bare.


Ditto, areas under trees.

Under tress, there is what is referred to as the drip zone. when it rains on trees, Usually the rain is repelled by the canopy, in the same way a roof does for a building. The rain follows the leaf canopy and falls eventually 'at the drip line'.



So, the grass usually does poorly because of the lack of rain and sunlight under trees.


One of the main reasons we say to mow often and high is because grass can dominate the ground through spreading their stolons and rhizomes.



Weeds usually propagate by going to seed and then relying on the seed to fall on bare ground and take root.

By cutting your grass high and often, the weeds can't get to the seed stage and thus, can't spread.

That weed theory applies to most weeds, but not all. Bindi or technically Soliva sessili is one.


BTW, I love grass, walking on a good grass lawn is like a massage for your feet.
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Roundup is popular in Australia.
In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
You can buy gysophate in Thailand,which is the main ingredient in round up, but it will kill everything including the grass. Only use if you plan on redoing the grass.2-4-d is a good broad leaf herbicide.
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The grass coverage looks sparse. Are you fertilizing regularly? Weeds take hold where the grass is not thick and strong.
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The grass coverage looks sparse. Are you fertilizing regularly? Weeds take hold where the grass is not thick and strong.
Never fertilized but the grass has always been health and green until recently.

I will just mow in the meantime as plans have changed overnight as we are likely to build an extension for the parents in that area.

As per usual, My Thai family waited for the wheels to fall off before taking action and preventing. For months I have been talking my wife into building an extension for the parents rather than spending half the week in Bang Kea. A fall and hospitilization of the FL has now convinced the wife. It was only 2 weeks ago I warned them he was too frail.

No such thing as preemtive measure in Thailand.
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The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.
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The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.

...and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.

Perspectives will vary.
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The type of grass seen in Thailand needs aeration and fertilization to remain healthy and encourage root growth. Good luck.

...and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.

Perspectives will vary.

Quite true.

At the Farm, almost not a blade of grass to be seen.

The only time is deemed usefull is when it stabilizes the pond bank/levee.


I'm still a huge fan ... but in the appropriate places and the right species.
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Roundup is popular in Australia.
In Thailand, there must be many garden shops with similar products.
You can buy gysophate in Thailand,which is the main ingredient in round up, but it will kill everything including the grass. Only use if you plan on redoing the grass.2-4-d is a good broad leaf herbicide.
Yep, glyphosate is the active ingredient in Roundup.It will kill everything it touches. Roundup drift...where the wind catches it and takes it to the neighbours property has caused many arguments in NZ.
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and some might consider the grass to be more invasive as a "weed" type.
Perspectives will vary.
Normally the perspective of the owner is the one that matters not some knob who likes weeds and thinks everybody else should too.
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