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    Thanks Prag.

    Will try it again next time I load pictures, but I'm using an android phone as it has battery longevity than laptops or PCs. Where I am at, there is no electricity. We rely on solar power and generators at night for power supply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaitongBoy View Post
    Yes, keep posting Fawn...You are very knowledgeable in this area...I don't do pics or vids, so cannot help you there...
    Thanks Bboy.

    I'm just the photographer though.

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    Then, they planted the area with bananas. Sorry, but the bananas look ugly at this stage.

    Again, I apologize for the size of the pictures. I do not know how to fix it. Cujo is so phucking right. I'm an idiot.













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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    bananas look ugly at this stage
    they'll grow on you, Is your friend Mindy Now?

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    GF, this Forest to Farming land, does the land 'belong' to the Farmer?

    Or is it government land?

    Or something else?


    BTW, the pics are fine, I simply clicked on them and they took me off site and they are full size there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David48atTD View Post
    GF, this Forest to Farming land, does the land 'belong' to the Farmer?

    Or is it government land?

    Or something else?


    BTW, the pics are fine, I simply clicked on them and they took me off site and they are full size there.
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    Its classified as timberland David. This forest land wasn't a virgin forest, but 2nd or 3rd growth trees. The first claimants who cleared the land are tribal people. They are exempted from the total log ban. They sold their rights to the farmer. By law, the land is not owned by the farmer, as its still classified as timberland, but the farmer has rights to the land. This is the beauty of PI law when it comes to timberland, once they are released to the public, they automatically release it to the actual occupant, unless the government will use that land. If they do, they will compensate you based on the improvements of said land. The government pays 6,000 for every mature fruit bearing durian tree. I don't know how much they pay for other plants though.

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    The banana plants after four months.













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    The rubber plants.....



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    Great stuff, Fawn...Never thought to click on the pic...But I still consider myself smarter than Dawg...He's just a fooking Husky...

    So, I wonder how much flak you'll take for this little exhibition...

    Keep 'em coming...You are a wealth of knowledge in this realm...

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    Napnap area is cleared and ready for rubber planting.









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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn View Post

    mature fruit bearing durian tree.
    So, you live in Southern Mindanao?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton View Post
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    mature fruit bearing durian tree.
    So, you live in Southern Mindanao?
    That's a close guess Davis, but I'm in Southern Palawan. It has a similar climate as Mindanao, and also not a typhoon path which is ideal for rubber and durians.

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    ^Wife owns a bunch of land in Palawan. I said Mindanao as I thought about 90% of Philippine durian were grown in Southern Mindanao.

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    These are the newly planted rubber plants. They are still undersized, but the farmer decided to plant them anyway, while its still the beginning of the rainy season, to give the plants a higher % of survival rate.

    The main problem with planting undersize seedlings is the control of weeds/grass/shrubs. Maintenance costs goes up. The good thing about this is that when you plant the seedlings too young, their center roots do not usually get damaged. This is something that farmers keep an eye on, especially in Palawan because of the termite problem here.

    The rubber plants are invisible coz they're blending in with the weeds. The bananas are looking better though.

















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    ^ Land is always a good investment, at least in my book. Palawan is a nice place and idyllic for farmers. Land is still relatively cheap, labor cost is on the low side, its not in the typhoon path, and it's peaceful.

    I don't know how long this peace will last though. Last year, hundreds of men rumored to be Abu Sayaf crossed the ocean and docked in the south of Palawan. They were masquerading as jewelry and trinket vendors. They were all passing by in groups of ten. All men. No women. The marines came a few hours late and were hunting them down. Maybe, they just came for RnR and for a bit of peace. Anyways, I'm hoping for the best.

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    Interesting thread, GF. I'm at odds with the conversion of forests to farmland, even if this particular plot wasn't a virgin forest. Loss of biodiversity, wildlife, and all that stuff. But people have to eat, and have a means of income. My grandpa was a slash & burn (kaingin) farmer. He was helped by my dad & uncles when they were kids. They cleared forest land to plant coconuts. While they were waiting for the coconuts, they were also fishermen, as it was a coastal town. If it wasn't from their efforts, then I wouldn't have graduated from college, have internet, and be able to post here!

    There's a relatively spooky story (told to me by a neighbor) abt a recent experience in Palawan. But I'm sleepy now, and have to be up early tomorrow. Perhaps another time.

    Interesting stuff too abt the ASG there.

    Cheers GF! Magandang gabi!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GracelessFawn
    Last year, hundreds of men rumored to be Abu Sayaf crossed the ocean and docked in the south of Palawan. They were masquerading as jewelry and trinket vendors. They were all passing by in groups of ten. All men. No women. The marines came a few hours late and were hunting them down. Maybe, they just came for RnR and for a bit of peace
    Does RnR stand for Ransacking n Rape?

    Think I'd sooner take my chance with the typhoons

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    Quote Originally Posted by katie23 View Post
    There's a relatively spooky story (told to me by a neighbor) abt a recent experience in Palawan. But I'm sleepy now, and have to be up early tomorrow. Perhaps another time.
    Oh, Katie do tell. I'm curious. Sige na pls.

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    The Napnap area after 4 more months....





















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    Quote Originally Posted by david44 View Post
    I think we should at least hope for a happy ending

    Not entirely sure if this lieland, fantasyland or dreamland

    This thread will show in pictures the improvements and the work that a farmer did on his or her land.?

    So is this one real location or one of those games where the foreigner is robbed buried and she trawls Pattaya for another walking ATM remains to be scene.

    It may of course be raunchy tales of the wild prairie with wild cowgilrs and brave slums of the soi

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    AH THE SMELL OF FRESH BS IN THE MOANING
    How about a naked laborer wielding a jungle bolo, clearing the farm? Stick around.....

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    The last batch of pictures for the Napnap farm site.

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    The last batch of pictures for the Napnap farm site. As you can see, the bananas have grown some more and the rubber plants are thriving.
    The 5th picture has a decent view of some of the rubber plants.

























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    KirayKiray Area
    12 hectares


    The view up there....





    The mini house..... This area has two mini houses, but one was built first.



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    The Kiraykiray area is cleared.....




























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    In typical GFawn style....

    When a worker shows up to work naked, you don't send them home. Farmers can always use an extra hand. Good help is hard to find in farms......





    The guy is actually a regular worker in the farm. He's a tribesman. He's already 22 years old, with 7 kids and one still on the way. They marry young, as young as 13 years old. The law allows it.

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