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    Name that pepper, ID please

    A friend just send me seeds of this pepper


    They go from green to eggplant purple to red. The body of the plant is fuzzy (see pic). It is a great tasting pepper. The pepper he got seeds came from Thailand.

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    What name does your friend have for the plant.?

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    NuMex Twilight? A cultivar from the species Capsisicum annuum.... Prik kee nu!

    From Wikipedia:
    Numex twilight is one of the most unusual varieties of chili pepper developed at New Mexico State University (which creates all "NuMex" breeds of plant). It grows about 18 inches tall, and becomes covered in peppers that start out purple, then move through yellow and orange, becoming red when fully ripe, producing a rainbow effect on the green plant.
    It is a hybrid based on the Thai Ornamental pepper.


    The more decorative, but slightly less pungent chili, sometimes known as 'Thai ornamental', has peppers that point upward on the plant, and range from green to yellow, orange, and then red. It is the basis for the hybrid cultivar 'Numex twilight', essentially the same, but less pungent, and starting with purple fruit, creating a rainbow effect. These peppers can grow wild in places such as Saipan and Guam.


    Picture 'borrowed' from SEED LIST I to Z

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi View Post
    What name does your friend have for the plant.?
    he had no name, that's why we trying to find the real name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy View Post
    NuMex Twilight? A cultivar from the species Capsisicum annuum.... Prik kee nu!
    Thanks Gipsy, but the numex twilight stem are not fuzzy, hairy, as the one on the picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by floricole View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gipsy View Post
    NuMex Twilight? A cultivar from the species Capsisicum annuum.... Prik kee nu!
    Thanks Gipsy, but the numex twilight stem are not fuzzy, hairy, as the one on the picture

    Plus, they don't go black like in the original picture,
    plus, they are pointier at the ends unlike the ones in the original picture,
    so, even though they are totally different they're same same.

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    Is it goats weed chilli pepper?

    Goats weed is a long lived variety which overwinters well. The pods grow erect o the plant and ripen from green to black to a fluorescent red.. The flavour is savoury spice without being fruity. Its foliage is tight, and bears dark and mid olive green leaves with a pubescens-like silver fuzz on the stems and the under leaf. Its appearance is striking, particularly as the green, black and red fruit are present together all year round. Very heavy producer. Should grow up to four foot high, with a two foot width.

    goats weed chile pepper database



    ChilePlants.com - GOAT'S WEED - Live Chile/Pepper Plant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Is it goats weed chilli pepper?

    Goats weed is a long lived variety which overwinters well. The pods grow erect o the plant and ripen from green to black to a fluorescent red.. The flavour is savoury spice without being fruity. Its foliage is tight, and bears dark and mid olive green leaves with a pubescens-like silver fuzz on the stems and the under leaf. Its appearance is striking, particularly as the green, black and red fruit are present together all year round. Very heavy producer. Should grow up to four foot high, with a two foot width.

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    ChilePlants.com - GOAT'S WEED - Live Chile/Pepper Plant

    No, I think the colour of and shape of the leaves are different. Plus, once again the fruit have pointier ends than in the original post.

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    Do Americans differentiate between chilli and pepper?
    A lesson for the yanks.

    This is pepper. These are peppers.









    These are Chillis.






    And these are Capsicums. (not 'bell peppers')

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    ^ too true. You tell em Koojo. They need a good lesson in english. And they don't spell chilli correctly either, they only use one 'l'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    And these are Capsicums. (not 'bell peppers')
    and so are the "chillis" in the picture above them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    And these are Capsicums. (not 'bell peppers')
    and so are the "chillis" in the picture above them.
    Right.
    take a bight of a capsicum.
    refreshing to the mouth.
    Take a bite of a chilli. Not so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    take a bight of a capsicum. refreshing to the mouth. Take a bite of a chilli. Not so.
    Irrelevant.
    There are many variants of the capsicum art, using capsicum as a name for only one of them is just so wrong.

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    Fine, but don't call them peppers then.

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    Fine, just don't call them peppers.

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    Repetitive reinforcement.
    Very good.






























    Very good.

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    Pepper

    Pepper or Peppers may refer to:


    The genus Piper of the pepper family (Piperaceae), including for example:

    Black pepper, white and green pepper, Piper nigrum
    Cubeb, Piper cubeba, also known as Java pepper
    Long pepper, Piper longum

    The genus Capsicum of the nightshade family (Solanaceae), including for example:

    Banana pepper, a number of species and spices
    Bell pepper, a Capsicum annuum cultivar
    Cayenne pepper, a Capsicum annuum cultivar
    Chili pepper, a number of species
    Datil pepper, a Capsicum chinense cultivar
    Jalapeño, a Capsicum annuum cultivar
    Florina pepper, a Capsicum annuum cultivar

    The genus Pimenta (genus) of the myrtle family (Myrtaceae), including for example:

    Allspice (P. dioicia)
    Pimenta haitiensis
    Pimenta jamaicensis
    Pimenta obscura
    Pimenta racemosa (P. racemosa), West Indian bay tree

    Other plants known as peppers:

    Aframomum melegueta, grains of paradise
    Alligator pepper
    Macropiper excelsum, kawakawa
    Pseudowintera, horopito
    Pseudowintera colorata, New Zealand Pepperwood
    Schinus genus, peppercorn trees
    "Pink peppercorns", obtained from Schinus molle
    Tasmanian pepper, Mountain pepper or "pepperbush", Tasmannia species
    Vitex agnus-castus, Monk's pepper
    Zanthoxylum genus
    Sichuan pepper, produced from the fruit of several Zanthoxylum species
    Zanthoxylum clava-herculis, American Pepperwood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverna View Post
    Is it goats weed chilli pepper?
    - GOAT'S WEED -
    Yep, Neverna, this one have many similarities.
    I will grow and compare with picture on this site I found today, very good picture database

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koojo
    Fine, just don't call them peppers.
    Dawg, are you "branching out" to the pepper industry after cornering the humour market?...

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    Koojo, maybe you have miss a history part, do some reading

    Capsicum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The name "pepper" came into use because of their similar flavour to the condiment black pepper, Piper nigrum, although there is no botanical relationship with this plant, or with Sichuan pepper. The original Mexican term, chilli (now chile in Mexico) came from the Nahuatl word chilli or xilli, referring to a larger Capsicum variety cultivated at least since 3000 BC,

    Bell pepper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Bell pepper, also known as sweet pepper or a pepper (in the United Kingdom and Ireland) and capsicum (in India, Australia and New Zealand), is a cultivar group of the species Capsicum annuum.[1] Cultivars of the plant produce fruits in different colors, including red, yellow, orange, green, chocolate/brown, vanilla/white, and purple. Bell peppers are sometimes grouped with less pungent pepper varieties as "sweet peppers". Peppers are native to Mexico, Central America and northern South America. Pepper seeds were later carried to Spain in 1493 and from there spread to other European, African and Asian countries. Today, China is the world's largest pepper producer, followed by Mexico and Indonesia.

    The misleading name "pepper" was given by Christopher Columbus upon bringing the plant back to Europe.[citation needed] At that time peppercorns, the fruit of an unrelated plant originating from India, Piper nigrum, was a highly prized condiment; the name "pepper" was at that time applied in Europe to all known spices with a hot and pungent taste and so naturally extended to the newly discovered Capsicum genus. The most commonly used alternative name of the plant family, "chile", is of Mexican origin, from the Nahuatl word chilli or xilli. Bell peppers are botanically fruits, but are generally considered in culinary contexts to be vegetables.
    While the bell pepper is a member of the Capsicum genus, it is the only Capsicum that does not produce capsaicin,[3] a lipophilic chemical that can cause a strong burning sensation when it comes in contact with mucous membranes. (An exception to this is the hybrid variety Mexibelle, which does contain a moderate level of capsaicin, and is therefore, somewhat hot). The lack of capsaicin in bell peppers is due to a recessive form of a gene that eliminates capsaicin and, consequently, the "hot" taste usually associated with the rest of the Capsicum genus

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    Back to my pepper identification,
    the guy who sent me seeds finally had the answer from the one that collect the seeds
    he was told these are Thai Black Dragon seeds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by floricole View Post
    Back to my pepper identification,
    the guy who sent me seeds finally had the answer from the one that collect the seeds
    he was told these are Thai Black Dragon seeds...

    Should that not be Vietnamese Black Dragon, then?

    Comes with a lot of different names.
    Goat weed , Vietnamese Black Dragon , Black Cobra , Chile Negro de Arbol , Black Chile Grande and a few more.
    Some versions or strains are from Vietnam, Mexico and Venezuela.
    Some have pendant pods,others start out with upright pods that turn pendant and others have upturned pods.
    Some plants/strains are fuzzier than other and have bigger or smaller pods.
    All are very prolific and crank out the pods. Some plants are bushy and some are tree like.

    There's also a Thai Dragon... Thin and pointed, Thai Dragon chillies fruits have green fruits that mature to a deep glossy red colour. Both colours appear on the plant at the same time making this variety ornamental as well as edible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by floricole View Post
    Koojo, maybe you have miss a history part, do some reading

    Capsicum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    The name "pepper" came into use because of their similar flavour to the condiment black pepper, Piper nigrum, although there is no botanical relationship with this plant, or with Sichuan pepper. The original Mexican term, chilli (now chile in Mexico) came from the Nahuatl word chilli or xilli, referring to a larger Capsicum variety cultivated at least since 3000 BC,

    Bell pepper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Bell pepper, also known as sweet pepper or a pepper (in the United Kingdom and Ireland) and capsicum (in India, Australia and New Zealand), is a cultivar group of the species Capsicum annuum.[1] Cultivars of the plant produce fruits in different colors, including red, yellow, orange, green, chocolate/brown, vanilla/white, and purple. Bell peppers are sometimes grouped with less pungent pepper varieties as "sweet peppers". Peppers are native to Mexico, Central America and northern South America. Pepper seeds were later carried to Spain in 1493 and from there spread to other European, African and Asian countries. Today, China is the world's largest pepper producer, followed by Mexico and Indonesia.

    The misleading name "pepper" was given by Christopher Columbus upon bringing the plant back to Europe.[citation needed] At that time peppercorns, the fruit of an unrelated plant originating from India, Piper nigrum, was a highly prized condiment; the name "pepper" was at that time applied in Europe to all known spices with a hot and pungent taste and so naturally extended to the newly discovered Capsicum genus. The most commonly used alternative name of the plant family, "chile", is of Mexican origin, from the Nahuatl word chilli or xilli. Bell peppers are botanically fruits, but are generally considered in culinary contexts to be vegetables.
    While the bell pepper is a member of the Capsicum genus, it is the only Capsicum that does not produce capsaicin,[3] a lipophilic chemical that can cause a strong burning sensation when it comes in contact with mucous membranes. (An exception to this is the hybrid variety Mexibelle, which does contain a moderate level of capsaicin, and is therefore, somewhat hot). The lack of capsaicin in bell peppers is due to a recessive form of a gene that eliminates capsaicin and, consequently, the "hot" taste usually associated with the rest of the Capsicum genus
    Interesting, Thanks.

    But where I come from 'not America' Pepper is pepper (White, black, cracked, powder), Chili's are Chillis, (sauce, powder and pastes and (vegetable?) with varying scoville ratings,) and Capsicums are Capsicums. (Cool and refreshing to the palate)
    So the next question.
    Is this

    A vegetable or a fruit?

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    S'fucking chilli dude fer fucks sake.

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    have you done a google pic search.

    did your friend say which part of Thailand he got it.?

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