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    Sor Por Kor land ownership papers are not transferrable under the present system, but they can be mortgaged with the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives.
    Possible flaws in Sor Por Kor land reform | Bangkok Post: learning
    Just to confirm that what I said about Sor Por Kor papers as being none tranferable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pragmatic
    I believe 20 Rai person, or 50 Rai per family, is all that can be owned legally.
    Sorry it's 25 Rai per person. Sor Por Gor Land

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    Now this is not part of the national land survey scheme, but a stop gap measure to try and move things along because of the amount of land of all title that need surveyed.
    By the way only about 10% of land has charnote.


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    A source said the government was moving to amend a related land law in the process of changing the Sor Por Kor papers to title deeds. The change was expected to be done in phases, starting with the Sor Por Kor papers in provinces where there are no problems with land distribution.
    Some political analysts believe the proposed land paper upgrade could prove another time bomb for the ruling Democrat Party if it is not handled properly.
    Land reform has remained a sore point for the Democrats. A debate in the House in 1995 exposed alleged irregularities in the Sor Por Kor 4-01 land reform scheme in Phuket that eventually led to the collapse of the first Chuan Leekpai government.
    Campaign for Popular Democracy secretary-general Suriyant Thongnoo-iad said the conversion appeared to be a cosmetic measure that was unlikely to deter land grabs.
    He said the land reform abuse was left unchecked because there were not enough surveyors at the Agricultural Land Reform Office. Each surveyor oversees about 30,000 rai of reform land.
    The reform land covers 31 million rai, or about 10% of the country's land area, in 679 districts across 69 provinces, Mr Suriyant said.
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    Jim,

    Got a call today from the land office in Chaing Rai. Our Chanote title is complete and ready for our pick up. 1 year to the day from original filing.

    Good news, now I can start the build without looking over my shoulder. Property is East of Chaing Saen about 30 kilometers along the Mae Kong. Land is high and about 5 miles south of the river. No flooding in this area.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ltnt View Post
    Jim,

    Got a call today from the land office in Chaing Rai. Our Chanote title is complete and ready for our pick up. 1 year to the day from original filing.

    Good news, now I can start the build without looking over my shoulder. Property is East of Chaing Saen about 30 kilometers along the Mae Kong. Land is high and about 5 miles south of the river. No flooding in this area.
    Good for you, make sure you get the planning permission first, usually a piece of cake, but planning permission can't be back dated.

    Enjoy the headaches from watching the build, good luck. Jim

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    ^Will do, thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piwanoi View Post
    Hi Jim I live about 50kms South of Buri ram ,I've been here since April 04 ,and as you rightly say many Thai's appear to fritter their money away on non essentials , many here only work at planting and harvesting time and appear to have a lot of time on their hands ,time were they could be doing other things ,this is why I said earlier ,I am sure with the right approach their lives could Improve ,nice to hear that Rubbers going up too, many have give up on Rice ,and now on the higher ground thousands of rubber saplings have taken rices place ,Jans Aunt has 15 Rai chock full of 18 month old trees ,but she's a grafter and is down there almost every day doing something or other ,shame her bone idle husband is not the same way inclined ,theres a Dutch guy about 15 kms from me who comes in our local who's got 25 rai of 2 year old trees so he's confident enough in rubbers future ,I suppose its the same old adage you only get out what you put in innit
    We had a month on Kee Yang and now on USS. We've not sold any USS yet, but a Swiss mate tells me it's around 80 Baht.

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    Still on cup, rains everyday, could probably go over to sheet if I had the workers, about 7 short.
    Rubber RRS is back up around the 80 Baht local price, hope for a bit higher later in the year, but who knows. The commodity markets are all over the shop. jim

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    this land registry thing is all so flaky and confusing..
    What is the benefit of Chanote at the end of the day? Okay the wife or can mortgage it and maybe building is maybe simplified.
    We are on a 100+ rai of SBK and the villagers say all locale will be surveyed "soon" for Chanote.
    They have finally started blacktop on our nearest road...headman told us "soon" about 6 years ago..lol
    Yeah rubber price is all over the shop for sure...thought at one time it followed oil price..seems it really is actually manipulated by those who can based on some premise about world economy..buggered if I know.
    Hey it still pays the bills and has returned a healthy ROI over the years ..now over a and above original land and house investment...now it is just gravy or atleast beer. Still can't realistically afford a new truck though ...according to her outdoors..maybe next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas View Post
    this land registry thing is all so flaky and confusing..
    What is the benefit of Chanote at the end of the day? Okay the wife or can mortgage it and maybe building is maybe simplified.
    We are on a 100+ rai of SBK and the villagers say all locale will be surveyed "soon" for Chanote.
    They have finally started blacktop on our nearest road...headman told us "soon" about 6 years ago..lol
    Yeah rubber price is all over the shop for sure...thought at one time it followed oil price..seems it really is actually manipulated by those who can based on some premise about world economy..buggered if I know.
    Hey it still pays the bills and has returned a healthy ROI over the years ..now over a and above original land and house investment...now it is just gravy or atleast beer. Still can't realistically afford a new truck though ...according to her outdoors..maybe next year.
    Soon lol been there with the phone line and a bet with the ex BIL. I bet him 5000 Baht we would not get a line during a certain year. 2 months after the year passed, I got fed up and paid 10000 for a line oulling in. The cheeky sod then claimed I owed him 5000 Baht Ha Ha.
    Regards, Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas View Post
    this land registry thing is all so flaky and confusing..
    What is the benefit of Chanote at the end of the day? Okay the wife or can mortgage it and maybe building is maybe simplified.
    We are on a 100+ rai of SBK and the villagers say all locale will be surveyed "soon" for Chanote.
    They have finally started blacktop on our nearest road...headman told us "soon" about 6 years ago..lol
    Yeah rubber price is all over the shop for sure...thought at one time it followed oil price..seems it really is actually manipulated by those who can based on some premise about world economy..buggered if I know.
    Hey it still pays the bills and has returned a healthy ROI over the years ..now over a and above original land and house investment...now it is just gravy or atleast beer. Still can't realistically afford a new truck though ...according to her outdoors..maybe next year.
    Soon lol been there with the phone line and a bet with the ex BIL. I bet him 5000 Baht we would not get a line during a certain year. 2 months after the year passed, I got fed up and paid 10000 for a line oulling in. The cheeky sod then claimed I owed him 5000 Baht Ha Ha.
    About 6 years ago during some district election one of the candidates promised some villages telephone boxes. He won and true to his pledge those villages got telephone boxes, no phones or telephone lines, just the boxes. They still make me laugh when I see an empty phone box. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by crepitas View Post
    this land registry thing is all so flaky and confusing..
    What is the benefit of Chanote at the end of the day? Okay the wife or can mortgage it and maybe building is maybe simplified.
    We are on a 100+ rai of SBK and the villagers say all locale will be surveyed "soon" for Chanote.
    They have finally started blacktop on our nearest road...headman told us "soon" about 6 years ago..lol
    Yeah rubber price is all over the shop for sure...thought at one time it followed oil price..seems it really is actually manipulated by those who can based on some premise about world economy..buggered if I know.
    Hey it still pays the bills and has returned a healthy ROI over the years ..now over a and above original land and house investment...now it is just gravy or atleast beer. Still can't realistically afford a new truck though ...according to her outdoors..maybe next year.
    Soon lol been there with the phone line and a bet with the ex BIL. I bet him 5000 Baht we would not get a line during a certain year. 2 months after the year passed, I got fed up and paid 10000 for a line oulling in. The cheeky sod then claimed I owed him 5000 Baht Ha Ha.
    About 6 years ago during some district election one of the candidates promised some villages telephone boxes. He won and true to his pledge those villages got telephone boxes, no phones or telephone lines, just the boxes. They still make me laugh when I see an empty phone box. Jim
    Bloody good one Jim. PMSL

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