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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Where are you located Helge?
    In Khon Kaen, bordering Kalasin

    Very little rain in August 2012 and now the ponds are dry

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Norton
    Where are you located Helge?
    In Khon Kaen, bordering Kalasin

    Very little rain in August 2012 and now the ponds are dry
    Interestingly enough, it's been raining sporadically in Amphoe Tha Khantho, Kalasin [up north bordering KK] for the last couple of weeks...

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    This years rainfall appears to me to be only a little different from past years. In some areas of the Northeast the coming deluge is essential for the farmer, not only because of the moisture it provides, but also the annual flooding flushes the salts from the soil and deposits nutrients. Without the flooding, the soil in my area would soon become unfit for farming.


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    It rained here monday night. 20 mm I reckon

    Not that I'm ungrateful

    Otherwise just drips

    Raining during Songkran ?

    I asked our senior citizens if it was supposed to rain now ?

    No

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    It rained here monday night. 20 mm I reckon

    Not that I'm ungrateful

    Otherwise just drips

    Raining during Songkran ?

    I asked our senior citizens if it was supposed to rain now ?

    No

    But it has been [starting early] for the last several successive Songkrans...

    Supposed to...??

    There are no definitive season any more.

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    ^^^

    Your max temp are way lower than most of the NE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rural Surin
    There are no definitive season any more.
    'Any more' isn't that far off 'supposed to' is it ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borey the Bald
    the annual flooding flushes the salts from the soil and deposits nutrients
    We don't have flooding then

    Just gets the paddies filled up

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    At the height of the wet season, our village is on the edge of one of the biggest lakes (flooded areas) in Thailand. It is of huge importance not only for reinvigorating the soil, but also fishing probably provides more income than farming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge
    We had no Songkran this year
    You lucky bastard.

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    In the northeast, most people don't plant two crops per year because it's normally dry. The past 12 months have been extremely dry here in northern Surin. Our reservoir is the lowest I have seen in 12 years. My wife who is in her 40s said said she's only seen it this low twice in her lifetime. My brother-in-law heard that there won't be rains until June but who knows whether that is true. If we don't get rain before the middle or end of May, you'll probably hear about our lack of water in the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    ^^^

    Your max temp are way lower than most of the NE
    This year does seem to be consistently hotter than the norm.

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    It hasn't rained for a few months now here in Surin (except for +-1mm during Songkran) but all the pools are still filled, that's something I don't understand.

    The government is going to make the river across our land a few meters wider, I wonder what the reason is but I think it's a good thing as once in a few years there whole area floods. We are planning to dig a huge pond next to the river and just pump it full at the end of the raining season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koetjeka View Post
    It hasn't rained for a few months now here in Surin (except for +-1mm during Songkran) but all the pools are still filled, that's something I don't understand.

    The government is going to make the river across our land a few meters wider, I wonder what the reason is but I think it's a good thing as once in a few years there whole area floods. We are planning to dig a huge pond next to the river and just pump it full at the end of the raining season.
    Surin is not a good example as a comparative to the rest of Isaan.
    It's always weird and unpredictable - every rainy season.

    And not even close to the amount of rain that the rest of the region enjoys.

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    We are having a well drilled tomorrow

    Let's see

    I would post pics if it wasn't for the vBullitin v -1,0

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    Here Lao land border, Emerald triangle thunder storms every day in the mountains, lite to drizzle rain in the village. It was 35 degrees at 20.00 hours 8 pm. So hot and humid that the soi dogs could only give a token bark as you walked by. Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by helge View Post
    We are having a well drilled tomorrow

    Let's see

    I would post pics if it wasn't for the vBullitin v -1,0
    Here close (35KM) to Mukdahan many villages wells have went dry, water being trucked in. Village just down from me the drilled the Govt pump well deeper and extended sucker rod, etc. I had a well drilled while building house, 47 Meters down to submersable pump. Never had any problems, although 3-4 time in the last few years filled a lot of buckets, small tanks, etc when town's water went down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zooheekock View Post
    Fields are plowed ready for planting in a few weeks when the rains come as they have for millennium. No change in strategy here.
    Doctors are using leeches and consulting Galen on the four humors as they have for millennia. No change in strategy or any need for that rubbish about the so-called germ theory of disease.
    Given that leeches are still widely used in modern medicine to great demonstrable benefit, whilst the theory of humors fell into disuse because it didn't. I am somewhat at a loss as to the point you were making with this metaphor

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockman
    filled a lot of buckets, small tanks, etc when town's water went down.
    I'm prepared to do my bit for the community when the well is dug and my massive lawn are green again

    Nah; they went down to 32 meters today and the flow looks like what I would imagine Loy Toy having a piss

    So they'll drill on tonight. Fucking well done if you'd ask me

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    In our neck of the woods never know where or how deep to drill. Could end up with a dry hole no matter what the old crone with the witching rods says. (no pun intended)

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    The difference between normal and drought conditions in our area is about 3-4 weeks. When the first rain starts (normally first couple of weeks in May) is not an issue. The problem comes during the period between the seedlings being grown and the transplant into the fields. After the first rains, there is a critical dry period before the main rains come. If this period is more than 3-4 weeks then it is a drought, in that the chances are those seedlings will start to go red and die.

    The amount of rain and its duration, once the transplant has taken place, is more a gamble with yield. Grow quick variety with less yield for a short rainy season or grow long variety with high yield and risk a dry season or a wet ending. There is the medium/medium just to add to the mix. In the end, it is a matter of growing some of each depending on how hot March was and how much the first rain in May brings.

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    Any word on rain at Lue Amnat, Amnat Charoen?

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    You can look at the Thai Meteorological department. Just google 'TMD Thai', praireboy. It's got weather radar for all of Thailand and it has English.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    In our neck of the woods never know where or how deep to drill. Could end up with a dry hole no matter what the old crone with the witching rods says. (no pun intended)
    Norton
    I am of the same opinion about water diviners, I think that they fit into the catergory as witches.
    If you want to have the best chance of drilling in the right place then I would suggest you try to put all the wells or bores surounding your place on a map.
    Note the water depth in each and then you may be able to define the underground water flow/table. If they line up it could mean an underground stream or if they are all over the place it may be a flatter aquifer. The depths should help define the plane of the water flow and that would help you to work out the depth you would need to drill to.
    Last possibilty is if there are no wells or bore that produce a good supply of water on any of the land around yours then you are probably stuffed.

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    They finished our well

    First went to 32 meters. Around here there is an approx 1.5 meter belt of some stone/iron, you have to go through

    They kept checking the small stones that came up with the drill water

    If you can squash them to powder there, quite obviously isn't water there

    At 32 they hauled all the pipes up

    But..

    So they continiued into the night to 40 meters

    There they went into rock 1 meter thick and underneath that

    Voila! Sadly no gushing

    Bloody good workers except one lazy [at][at][at][at] and their boss, who drank my beers

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