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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    The bain of all farmers. Market fluctuations, unseasonal weather, and political nonsense make farming risky business.
    I would not class rubber as really farming, more as biological oil, rubber substitute is oil for many things.

    Sometimes artificial rubber from oil will do, other things, rubber is the only answer, it's not like corn, change group the next year, Turnips pay better this year.

    In hindsight, I would have gone for cashews nuts, stable price, not changed over the years, 100 rai, pickers pay about $1,000 US per rai for good trees.

    My mistake, rubber not nuts, could have fallen down a big hole and done palm oil. but my mistake, kids wife will be OK on rubber until they go on their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamescollister View Post
    kids wife will be OK on rubber until they go on their own.
    Bottom line no matter what we chose to do.

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    MUMBAI (Reuters) - India’s natural rubber imports in October jumped 63 percent from a year ago to 62,047 tonnes, the state-run Rubber Board said on Tuesday, as local consumption surged amid drop in overseas prices.
    The country’s consumption jumped 14.6 percent to 102,000 tonnes in October, while production rose 8.1 percent to 67,000 tonnes, the Board said in a statement.
    India imports natural rubber mainly from Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam and Malaysia. ]

    Seems a market price is not reflecting supply and demand, last year story was 250,000 tons of over supply, yet India can eat 100,000 tons in one month.

    China, state controlled capitalism, as Marx said, world communism/ socialism can beat the west at it's own game.

    Seem to be doing pretty good at, buying everything they can, from rubber companies, mines, food production areas world wide, ports, transport, energy.

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    BKK Post is saying a lot of it is to do with the trade war and tariffs between China & Trump (USA).
    China auto sales are way down this year. Car companies are hurting in the China market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiguzzi View Post
    BKK Post is saying a lot of it is to do with the trade war and tariffs between China & Trump (USA).
    China auto sales are way down this year. Car companies are hurting in the China market.
    Good excuse for the Government, heard it from many western Governments.
    Things going well, it's Government policy, things going bad, it's the world economy, not our fault.

    China's car and small truck production is down and some of it is because of US tariffs, but world car market etc is up.

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    Sold cup at auction yesterday at 19.34 Baht per kg.

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    Sold cup at auction today, 20.12 Baht per kg.
    10 bidders, 6 bidders in the 19's, 4 bidders in the 20's, lowest bid was 19.30 Baht per kg.
    Going back to a 60/40 split.

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    Wife spent 6 hours yesterday getting the paper work done on the Gov. rubber subsidy.
    16500 Baht for me, but had to make a deal with the tappers, tappers get 700 Bt [ 15 rai ] that's all you can claim on, 2 families, same plantation, 50 rai 1/2 each, but they have agreed to share, everyone is happy, I hope.

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    We are doing a similar sorta deal. Gotta keep 4 tappers on 64 rai happy with a 15 rai handout....

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    Strange weather, seemed a long wet season, but no big flooding rains, usually bridges under water for days or weeks at times.

    Yesterday the frogs started up, normally February, breeding time, first rains, we get rain in the dry season, mountains and jungle have their own climate system, but the frogs seem to know the difference, it's only a rain shower.

    Think the rains will be coming early, the frogs know better than the weathermen, could be a wet year ahead.

    Joys of being a farmer, only 2 types of rain, too little and too much, will still be here next year either way.

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    Which reminds me we never did do that river trip.

    I know. You are still there.

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    Sold cup at auction 2 weeks ago at 20.52 baht per kg.
    Sold cup at auction yesterday at 22.38 baht per kg.

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    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 21.51 Baht per kg.
    Maybe one more sale for us this season....

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    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 22.64 Baht per kg.
    13 bidders, lowest bid was 21.20.
    Going again for another fortnight.

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    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.25 baht per kg.
    14 bidders, lowest bid was 23.00.
    Going again for another fortnight (never tapped so late into March before) as we've had unseasonal rain, and output is still sorta there, even tapping on a 1 on, 2 off basis, it's still netting 30k a month in the missus's pocket.
    Why stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiguzzi View Post
    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 25.25 baht per kg.
    14 bidders, lowest bid was 23.00.
    Going again for another fortnight (never tapped so late into March before) as we've had unseasonal rain, and output is still sorta there, even tapping on a 1 on, 2 off basis, it's still netting 30k a month in the missus's pocket.
    Why stop?
    Dry here, but still tapping trees, not plantations, some trees are back to dark green leaves others not,
    Tapping 1 on 2 or 3 off, not a lot of output, but tappers are happy with the little income and it buys me beer.

    On another subject, the 16,500 Baht Gov subsidy, which was supposed to be paid in January, village head called the wife in to sign some paper, but didn't know when the money would hit the bank.

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    Still at it!
    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 13 bidders, 26.62 baht per kg.

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    Been away for a month's family hols in Blighty.
    Meanwhile,
    sold cup at auction 10th April, 27.00 baht per kg, half decent output for the time of year,
    sold cup at auction 30th April, 28.38 baht per kg, low production output, 15 bidders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thaiguzzi View Post
    Been away for a month's family hols in Blighty.
    Meanwhile,
    sold cup at auction 10th April, 27.00 baht per kg, half decent output for the time of year,
    sold cup at auction 30th April, 28.38 baht per kg, low production output, 15 bidders.
    Yes not been a good start to the season, too hot for rubber flow. Normally we are starting to get fairly good outputs by now, but the heat was just drying the latex soon after the tap.

    Started to cool down a week ago, but has rained most nights, but at least the hot spell seems over.

    Wife was talking on the phone to a friend from Uni. he has 100 rai of rubber and has no tappers, he uses Burmese workers, none have turned up this year and they are on a 50/50 split. Guess the low price last season drove them off to other jobs, or back to Burma.

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    Sold cup at auction yesterday, 28.42 baht per kg.
    Pitiful production, 12 bidders.
    Finally got a pic of the 14.00 hrs auction bidders board up, once all the envelopes are opened.
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