Work as a Farang Go-Go Dancer ~ is it Safe?

[Fabian]

I don't know what to say but I second what Marmite said.

[Penzman]

Originally Posted by stroller

Someone should introduce her to Scampy, they might match...

You could get deported later on but at least foreign prisons usualy give you freedom over what you choose to eat, unlike that shithole.

[mrsquirrel]

I am pretty sure that if you are an 18 year old kid that has been liviing in Pattaya and given the freedom to do what you want i.e. going out on the piss surrounded by whores and punters it is going to give you a twisted view of things..

I thought she lived at home with her oldman not in a box in Pattaya.

A troll it must be.

[kingwilly]

whaddyas your father think ???

i agree with everyone above .....

1. Its a Troll - cos i really dont think your that dumb - in fact far from it!

2. if its not ...... fuckn wake up ! its IS prostitution - you gonna give these ppl your passport ??? good luck gettin it back.

special diet??? WTF ?

stay with Russian whores? - thats what they are!

certain times in your room ? CCTV ?

are you serious - read anything you like about prostition rings and slave rings ....


THIS IS WHAT THEY DO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE - research this futher - do not just take their advice on it! believe nothing !

this is way dangerous shit Icey!

[hunter]

Originally Posted by Meoff

Ice Maiden-

I've been a reader of your posts for a long time... across two forums. I can't believe that you are seriously considering becoming a go go employee. I hope this is a huge wind up. If not- have you really thought this though? I have some questions that you may not have considered.

What is your visa / employment status as a foreign employee of this place? Do they provide a work permit? Does every single one of the other russian girls there have a work permit and B visa? I have my doubts here.

Whilst it is true that many foreigners in Thailand are working without a work permit- teachers in language centers, working in an office somewhere, or from home, anyone who is working in a highly visible position (especially a semi naked one) is asking for trouble sooner or later.

Everyone here on this board knows that prostitution and the sex industry in Thailand is technically illegal, but it is "tolerated". Everyone here also knows how the tolerance and policies of Thailand can change on a whim. When the next "crackdown" happens, you can be sure that the foreigners in the industry will be hit first- in order to make an example of them.

In fact, the Thai businessmen in the industry are probably already gunning for this place which is taking their business. It has happened to this very establishment and these same girls already. Therefore, the precedent is set, and it can / will happen again. Are you 100% sure that you will be harmless and free to go when the boys in brown come? (Not a question of if, but when.)

Are you really ready to be in this environment, and take all of the chances involved? Is it worth the chance of being arrested / imprisoned / deported / blacklisted / passport flagged / all of the other nastiness / losing your personal freedom?

Speaking of losing your personal freedom, what is this shit about having to be in your room during off hours, and being watched by CCTV??? That definitely isn't freedom- that is total control, similar to prison. Do you want people controlling your life to that extent??

Special diet? I agree 100% with dirtydog- that this is probably a drug program. I know a bargirl here in Bangkok who went to work in the Karaoke bars of Hat Yai. They forced her to take yaa baa every night. Are you prepared for the consequences of failing a piss test?

Not prostitution you say?? What will you say when some middle eastern gentleman with more money than god takes a liking to the young white girl and offers you 20,000 bt, or whatever it takes to get his way? Do you really have the strength and moral fortitude to tell him that you are not a prostitute? What would your boss / mamasan say if the same man approaches him / her and makes this offer? I know what a Thai mamasan would do. Can't imagine your establishment would be any different.

Do you have an escape plan for when the shit hits the fan? Will someone bail you out of jail? If you think that your employers will be there for you, think again. If the shit hits the fan, they will want to minimise their exposure / risk, and have absolutely nothing to do with you.

I really hope that this isn't true, and all a big joke. Myself and a lot of other guys have always been impressed by the young woman who seemed so mature and confident in her posts, who wanted to be a journalist, or wanted to learn languages and be a flight attendant.

Kinda breaks my heart, because if you do this, it is definitely the start of a slippery slope which will surely be the ruin of your life, a life that is still so young and has a lot of potential.

I implore you to reconsider this.

Meoff.



Edit: fixed typos

Excellent advice Ice. Go for it.

[RandomChances]

I's'nt it supprising that many of us probably know thai women who work in bars, go go's ect and never really give a shit about it, but when it's our beloved IM thinking about doing it, everyone's one about a "wasted life" and being careful. IM if you want to sell your ass,then why not just freelance, I'm sure if you scrub up a bit you'd do ok. You'd get to work your own hours, live where you want and still be able to all the uni learning stuff for a proper job just in case your a crap shag and can't pull in enough punters.

[Milkman]

After reading all of the posts, it does sound dodgy. I think these (owner, managers) people involved in this are not good folks.

If it was all above board, with legal rights in writing, and you could ask (did you?) the current girls working there to honestly talk about how they are treated then I'd say go for it. If you're interested in it, try something new while you're young....

But....

The situation you described (don't tell, have to be in your room, visa, and Russian) sounds very, very, bad. You know how Pattaya works more than I do, and I know there are dishonest and bad people there doing business.

Keep us posted.

[flash]

If you are dumb enough to even think about doing this then go for it, if you would even think about it then you will do it eventually.
Sad to see a young girl who is going to become a crack whore not too far down the line.

Everyone else has said it nicely, but at the end of the day you will be another statistic.

Every thoughtful word and bit of advise you have said/offered up to now don't mean shit!you are being really dumb right now, if you want to be that stupid you can earn money with webcams and be safe.

This has to be a troll.

[Milkman]

Originally Posted by flash

If you are dumb enough to even think about doing this then go for it, if you would even think about it then you will do it eventually.
Sad to see a young girl who is going to become a crack whore not too far down the line.

Everyone else has said it nicely, but at the end of the day you will be another statistic.

Every thoughtful word and bit of advise you have said/offered up to now don't mean shit!you are being really dumb right now, if you want to be that stupid you can earn money with webcams and be safe.

This has to be a troll.

You are making a lot of assumptions.

Crack whore? What do you mean? Did she say she used crack?

Statistic? How?

It seems that you are applying Western steorotypes to a person in LOS who is considered this job.

Also, we shouldn't be too quick to judge negative or make negative comments.

Funny how I see some folks getting "judgemental" over someone taking a job. They live in LOS, then put on some kind of rightous face.

[flash]

Originally Posted by Milkman

You are making a lot of assumptions.

Crack whore? What do you mean? Did she say she used crack?

Statistic? How?

It seems that you are applying Western steorotypes to a person in LOS who is considered this job.

Also, we shouldn't be too quick to judge negative or make negative comments.

Funny how I see some folks getting "judgemental" over someone taking a job. They live in LOS, then put on some kind of rightous face.

Would you be happy if it was your kid taking the job?

I'm not going to defend a whore's right to make a living, but at the end of the day a whore is a whore.

[Milkman]

Originally Posted by flash

Would you be happy if it was your kid taking the job?

Avoiding the issue.

Under the conditions she described, no. Why? Because the owners/managers and situation seems dodgy and that employees may not be given lattitude. Pluse, Many owners of these establishments, and Russians are bad backgrounds in their home-countries and in LOS.

[flash]

So you have made some assumptions yourself with the same info i have read, why argue about it then, if you think it is the right thing for her to do tell me why?

If not don't try to look for holes in what i said ok?

[The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog]

Wise words from Random Chances, which as usual everyone has overlooked.

IM. Why not come back to Hong Kong and be our Subscriptions and Circulation Manager. I'll get you a telephone interview.

[davethailand]

Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog

Maybe you can start a new thread, written like a diary.

"My Life - How a person with great potential managed to throw it all away"

For someone who comes across as very smart, you sure are a dumbarse at times.

Agreed,
Ice if this is what you living in Pattaya has come to then you need to go back and live with your family.
Trust me you'll be either-
1, Beaten up by the ruskies
2, Banged up by the old bill
3, Grassed up by the ruskies then banged up.

Personally I don't believe that Galaxy would hire you as one you are not Russian, They are thai/ russian run and have the means to protect that, they would not be able to have you in there and two the girls they look for a tall and have a certain appearance and no disrespect but you are'nt suited for it.
Answer me this also.. Would you go with the customers for money? The customers BTW would be Japs or Thai's or Koreans.
Anyway i thought you were hanging around in Hootys?
Is this really what you want for yourself?

[Milkman]

Originally Posted by flash

So you have made some assumptions yourself with the same info i have read, why argue about it then, if you think it is the right thing for her to do tell me why?

It didn't say it was/is "the right thing to do." Re-read my posts.

I responding to you post below. My two statements in response to your post below is what YOU did NOT answer:

If not don't try to look for holes in what i said ok?

Poke holes? How?

Originally Posted by flash
If you are dumb enough to even think about doing this then go for it,

How do you know? Dumb? You don't.

if you would even think about it then you will do it eventually.
Sad to see a young girl who is going to become a crack whore not too far down the line.

if you think about something you will eventually do it? How do you know?

Did you know for a fact, that she is a 1. Crack user and 2. a whore?

F*ck off, azzhole.

Everyone else has said it nicely, but at the end of the day you will be another statistic.

I addressed this but YOU didn't even ANSWER. Statistic for what?

Every thoughtful word and bit of advise you have said/offered up to now don't mean shit!you are being really dumb right now,

Calling someone dumb? what do you know? She hasn't even posted for a while. You sound like a condescending bag of hot-wind.

if you want to be that stupid you can earn money with webcams and be safe.

Now she is "stupid."

[The_Ghost_Of_The_Moog]

Is the go going there in the nuddy?

Tits oot ! Fathlads.

[Blake7]

Why not go to Japan and earn some serious money as an escort? You don't have to take your clothes off and make much more money.
Also these places eem more safe than Russian mafia run ones...

[Fast Eddie]

The original post can only be a wind up. Surely nobody can live in Pattaya as long as Ice Maiden and not be fully aware of what such a job entails? For someone with so many other options in life, to take on such an ignominious role is sheer folly.

If she has friends in Pattaya, and this is for real, then i hope they can talk her out of such madness.

[qwerty]

OK, since everyone else has pitched in, here's my .75baht's worth:

These prospective employers sound very controlling. Holding your passport? Special diet? Not being able to leave your room freely? The alarm bells are practically deafening!

As for any 'extra duties',