Thread: Thai Divorce law re: Extortion

I think there's some misunderstandings, do I have thb 500k availalable at my immediate disposal, no. I'm 25, while I'm out of the us I'm still paying back my student loans, and will be for quite some time. I did have some savings, however that has been wiped out by vacations and trips that were requested by the missus.

Originally Posted by Jesus Jones

Yup. My ex was trying to divorce her old codger so that she could be with me, some young man-rod

That right there would have been enough for most to tell that their new girl friend is a slag.

Originally Posted by Norton

I would offer 200K.

That works out at 50k baht per month for a 4 month marriage.
Offer her 60k baht (500baht per day) and the offer expires in 28 days

good advice bob lets hope he takes it,if he is desperate for pussy go somewhere else.

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Offer her 60k baht (500baht per day) and the offer expires in 28 days

OK. Sometimes a really low first offer is best. 500k is ridiculous for a 4 month marriage.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Probably the easiest one in this case is desertion for longer than 12 months.

Thought it was longer but 12 months even more reason not to wait her out.

Originally Posted by Norton

Originally Posted by Thetyim

Offer her 60k baht (500baht per day) and the offer expires in 28 days

OK. Sometimes a really low first offer is best. 500k is ridiculous for a 4 month marriage.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

Probably the easiest one in this case is desertion for longer than 12 months.

Thought it was longer but 12 months even more reason not to wait her out.

Actually I was wrong about something there. There is 12 month clause but the action for divorce has to be instituted by the person who's been deserted.

Section 1516. Grounds of action for divorce are as follows:

(1) the husband has given maintenance to or honored such other woman as his wife, or the wife has committed adultery, the other spouse may enter a claim for divorce;

(2) one spouse is guilty of misconduct, notwithstanding whether such misconduct is a criminal offence or not, if it causes the other:

(a) to be seriously ashamed;
(b) to be insulted of hated or account of continuance of being husband or wife of the spouse having committed the misconduct; or
(c)to sustain excessive injury or trouble where the condition, position and cohabitation as husband and wife are taken into consideration;
the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

(3) one spouse has caused serious harm or torture to the body or mind of the other, or has seriously insulted the other or his or her ascendants, the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

(4) one spouse has deserted the other for more than one year, the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

(4/1) one spouse had been sentenced by a final judgment of the Court and has been imprisoned for more than one year in the offence committed without any participation, consent or in the knowledge of the other, and the cohabitation as husband and wife will cause the other party sustain excessive injury or trouble, the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

(4/2) The husband and wife voluntarily live separately because of being unable to cohabit peacefully for more than three years, or live separately for more than three years by the order of the Court, either spouse may enter a claim for divorce;

(5) one spouse has been adjudged to have disappeared, or as left his or her domicile or residence for more than three years and being uncertain whether he or she is living or dead;

(6) one spouse has failed to give proper maintenance and support to the other, or committed acts seriously adverse to the relationship of husband and wife to such an extent that the other has been in excessive trouble where the condition, position and cohabitation as husband and wife are taking into consideration, the latter may enter a claim for divorce;

(7) one spouse has been an insane person for more than three years continuously and such insanity is hardly curable so that the continuance of marriage cannot be expected, the other may enter a claim for divorce;

(8) one spouse has broken a bond of good behavior executed by him or her, the other spouse may enter a claim for divorce;

(9) one spouse is suffering from a communicable and dangerous disease which is incurable and may cause injury to the other, the latter may file a claim for divorce;

(10) one spouse has a physical disadvantage so as to be permanently unable to cohabit as husband and wife, the other may enter a claim for divorce.

Originally Posted by DrB0b

the husband has given maintenance to or honored such other woman as his wife, or the wife has committed adultery, the other spouse may enter a claim for divorce

This one always made me snigger. As I interpret, ok for husband to be adulterous but a no, no for the wife.

Oh, I understand the property thing real well DrBob, as I was quite concerned regarding the US interest in this if any, for which I have not contacted the embassy as of yet (but this marriage does seem valid there). My concern was mainly for her petitioning somewhat there (which would be hard without a visa, and without us, or me having any possessions/income there).


Agreed Norton, it seems that in the man's case he is okay just as long as he has not brought on a second wife, however the woman must only commit adultery.

I was thinking of honestly going with step 2, however I'm sure that would be hard to prove. She did make quite a scene, which included assault (hit me a few times left some marks/bruises which I've documented, although its Thailand so no BiB presence, and I doubt a real lack of witnesses at this point, even though they seemed helpful after an hour or so of a shellacking) before I left Leung Nok Tha on Friday morning via bus to BKK. This is the main reason honestly, which I did not include in the OP. Her behavior towards me in terms of physical abuse (while only on a few occasions) is not something I wish to continue.

Originally Posted by drawp

I was thinking of honestly going with step 2, however I'm sure that would be hard to prove.

If you decide to go to court you're looking at a long drawn out affair which will not be cheap. Don't let your desire for revenge override the simplest way to end the marriage. An agreed settlement.

Well, thats what I was thinking too, just would much rather take this to the amphur sign the paper and be done with it. Guess I have some negotiating to do

^ Start with 25K....

Wait to see what DD's tame lawyers have to say. Don't do anything until then. All will become clear, grasshopper.

Originally Posted by BobR

Originally Posted by hawaiianbrian

Interesting that not one person asked him if there was any way that the marriage could be saved. I guess they all assumed there was never any love involved it was all a matter of lust/money grabbing/whatever! Happy Valentines Day!!!!

When I was practicing law, I always asked clients if they wanted to explore the possibility of saving the marriage, but there are some things that could never be "put behind" a couple. Extortion is one of them. The last Thai one I heard about, the girl wanted 300,000 baht to leave and said if he tried to put her out she would hurt her own arm and tell the police he did it. He hired 2 off-duty cops at a total cost of 20,000 baht for an hours work, they went to the house when he was at work and physically removed the woman and put enough fear into her that he has not heard from her since, but that was just a live in bar girl, not a marriage.

There's a Grade 'A' prick in Udon who's just paid his missus 2 million to leave. The funny thing is, she's still there.

I think I have said this before, DON'T GIVE ANY MONEY UNLESS FORCED TO BY LAW OR THE POSSIBLITY OF JAIL TIME.....

if you both go to the district to sign papers make sure you take someone along with you better still if they could speak thai,because she wont turn up on her own she will have a few leaches with her havent you have any witnesses to the assault that would testify for you if you can get it in writing wont cost much to get it translated.

Tell her you weighing up your options and costs.
You have been offered a professional hit for 50k baht so would she like to reconsider her demands before you make a final decision.

I just spoke with ACS, they were pretty ugh about the whole thing. I brought up two questions to them, one the legality of the marriage in the US and two) the extortion.

Their answer on legality is, its not really legal per se, as marriage is handled on a state by state basis (which is true), however it is legally recognized. In order to make things legal, in the state I referenced (California), they would require the embassy to do a verification of the signature on the marriage license to confirm its authenticity. So there are additional things required which the website does not list.

Regarding the extortion, he said he really couldn't comment in this case, I said what about bringing charges in the states, again, he pointed out that the marriage wasn't exactly legal and the lack of a presence of her in the US causes some issues.

So in terms of helpfulness, not too much from them. The Thai girl that I originally got on the phone was pretty much a b, she refused to answer any questions regarding the marriage in the states (or the marriage in general) and told me to contact an attorney. I asked for a list of attorneys, and she said they don't provide that (which the American guy I spoke with said he did).

^Oh well, guess my idea wasn't worth much. Pretty non-answer. Let's hope DD's lawyer is a bit clearer. Fucking Embassy - "it's legal, but it's not". Thanks, guys.

It was worth a shot, thanks for the idea Davis, you've been a great help so far.

Originally Posted by hawaiianbrian

Interesting that not one person asked him if there was any way that the marriage could be saved

members of this forum are all wise men.

Originally Posted by dirtydog

Ok, I have emailed PAPPA Law, they will reply.

Originally Posted by Davis Knowlton

^Stay tuned. If they're like most lawyers, they will take a week to respond and say nothing. Glad the bill (I presume in free advertising) is going to our lord and master.

It seems you were right Davis. Wake me when the response comes in....

Originally Posted by FailSafe

"Do you know why divorces are so expensive? Because they're worth it."

This however doesn't explain why marriages are so expensive too