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mrsquirrel · 08-09-2006, 09:27 PM

PorBorTor5 is being upgraded

What does this mean?

Should I buy land in the missus's name or setup a company just now?

Curious after the Samui problems.

ChiangMai noon · 08-09-2006, 09:28 PM

can you be a little less obtuse?

lom · 08-09-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

PorBorTor5 is being upgraded

Nothing new, lower rank title deeds has been upgraded for the last 20 years or so..
It's part of an ongoing process, all private owned land will eventually be converted to Chanoot title deed, discontinuing all other titles.

It has taken time though, they started with city areas and are now at a point where Isaan farmer land is beeing converted.
Still probably 10 years or more until all land has Chanoot title..

ChiangMai noon · 08-09-2006, 10:54 PM

thanks lom, I thought it was another computer thread.
seriously.

Spin · 09-09-2006, 12:46 AM

worthless scrub, totally useless. not worth 10 baht per rai. forget about it.
Squatters rights.

Bung · 09-09-2006, 01:43 AM

^ Hardly worthless. I think there are a lot of people living on Por Bor Tor 5's. I was, I paid 5k to the right people and spent 1300B on lunch and today have a chanote!

A lot of land up country is like this and they will go straight to chanote eventually with an increase in value. Get in early I say if it is within your family.

lom · 09-09-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Codger

worthless scrub, totally useless. not worth 10 baht per rai. forget about it.

Never merry a bargirl, never buy PorBorTor5 land..
Stupid TV generelasations..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Codger

Squatters rights.

Yes, that's correct.

lom · 09-09-2006, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bung

Hardly worthless. I think there are a lot of people living on Por Bor Tor 5's. I was, I paid 5k to the right people and spent 1300B on lunch and today have a chanote! A lot of land up country is like this and they will go straight to chanote eventually with an increase in value. Get in early I say if it is within your family.

You have understood it Bung

mrsquirrel · 09-09-2006, 08:48 PM

So how quick can it become Chanoot?

How do I prove that it is my land?

lom · 09-09-2006, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

So how quick can it become Chanoot?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lom

It has taken time though, they started with city areas and are now at a point where Isaan farmer land is beeing converted. Still probably 10 years or more until all land has Chanoot title..

What more of an answer do you expect in this forum ?
Sorry, I don't have a crystal ball...

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Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

How do I prove that it is my land?

You can´t own any land MrsQ, put it in your missus name.
PorBorTor5 land is not owned at all, it has a caretaker who will be registered as such at the district office and who will have to pay a yearly tax of around 10baht per rai for the right to use the land.

That registered caretaker will eventually become the Chanoot title owner.

Bung · 09-09-2006, 09:20 PM

In my case it took many years of talking about it before they got around to the chanote, like a lot of things here. I'm still waiting for the road to be paved outside my house after 3 years of "next month".

If you want to find out if the chanote is immanent you would need your mrs or whoever is in charge of the land to make enquiries, then do a lot of ass kissing and they may come and do it. My MIL is well connected and was able to "expedite" the whole process by throwing money at it. As I said a 1300B lunch clinched it.

Once you have it you could then draw up a lease (if it is the land where your house is). I think this is a better option than the company route personally. If you are worried about chanotes in your wifes name (fair enough too, if it is in her name then she is free to do what she wants with it) then I would buy a safe and don't tell anyone the combo. If you die suddenly they can then cut it open and fight over it!

lom · 09-09-2006, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bung

If you are worried about chanotes in your wifes name (fair enough too, if it is in her name then she is free to do what she wants with it)

If you are worried about chanootes in your missus name, then get yourself a new missus that you trust..

mrsquirrel · 09-09-2006, 10:08 PM

Not so much don't trust her but you just never know what is around the corner.

Teh land is chepa enough at 250k for 10 rai. with power and water.. good location. Only problem is if chanoote. Have to look into it in more depth

Spin · 10-09-2006, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Bung

^ Hardly worthless. I think there are a lot of people living on Por Bor Tor 5's. I was, I paid 5k to the right people and spent 1300B on lunch and today have a chanote!

You make it sound like it was done with a nod and a wink in 20 minutes......

then........

Further down the page you elaborate a little and tell us that the process to get the chanote has taken "many years" and "money throwing at it" by MIL who is " well connected"

The average farang does not need this kind of poop when trying to secure land. Thats why i claim to to be worthless until it has a Nor Sor Sam or better.

Spin · 10-09-2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lom

Never merry a bargirl, never buy PorBorTor5 land..
Stupid TV generelasations..

Two good ideas in my book.

I would not marry a whore at home so i dont do it here.

I would not buy a car back home that did not have log book / pink slip so i could not drive it or then sell it.

WTF has TV got to do with this thread? or anything

WTF? is a "generelasations"

Whose more stupid here?

RandomChances · 10-09-2006, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mrsquirrel

Teh land is chepa enough at 250k for 10 rai. with power and water.. good location. Only problem is if chanoote. Have to look into it in more depth

Where is the land ? 25k/rai does'nt sound that cheap especially without a chanot. Buying without a chanot can be ok just depends on your circumstances, what you intend to use the land for and how much the land costs.

Bung · 10-09-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Old Codger

You make it sound like it was done with a nod and a wink in 20 minutes...... then........ Further down the page you elaborate a little and tell us that the process to get the chanote has taken "many years" and "money throwing at it" by MIL who is " well connected" The average farang does not need this kind of poop when trying to secure land. Thats why i claim to to be worthless until it has a Nor Sor Sam or better.

Again, hardly.

I've lived on my Por Bor Tor 5 for 4 years and it was never in danger of being taken away or anything, everyone knows each other around where I live. How many people in Thailand live on that sort of land with no problems? And why should that be a problem for a Farang with a Thai wife? Like a lot of the country we were told a chanote would be happening at some point, I was just able to get it done quicker

Yes I did throw money at it - 5000B. Which is what it costs you when they eventually come around to survey it. I was just able to do it quicker through the family but I only paid what I would have to pay anyway plus a big lunch as a thank you. That is how things are done here..

If I was offered some land that was Por Bor Tor 5 from a stranger I wouldn't be interested. If it was offered to my wife and I from my Thai family then that would be different.

dirtydog · 12-09-2006, 01:39 AM

I think with that if you can prove you have looked after the land for 8 to 10 years then the land goes in your name, well as long as you are a Thai that is, some of my galfriends family have got land this way.

William · 12-09-2006, 11:24 AM

^DD, that's a different legal doctrine, called adverse possession. In Thailand you need to occupy the land for 10 years. It is also the principal reason why you build a wall round your land even if you have nothing on the land itself.

mrsquirrel · 12-09-2006, 12:06 PM

So if I buy a 100 rai I need to fence it all in?

08-09-2006, 09:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
mrsquirrel Jarvis fellates goats 4 $ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a rather cold and dark place Posts: 12,433	PorBorTor5 - upgrade - explain please PorBorTor5 is being upgraded What does this mean? Should I buy land in the missus's name or setup a company just now? Curious after the Samui problems.

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Bung Tounguin for a beer. Last Online: Today 07:35 PM Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wat Bung Posts: 2,212	^ Hardly worthless. I think there are a lot of people living on Por Bor Tor 5's. I was, I paid 5k to the right people and spent 1300B on lunch and today have a chanote! A lot of land up country is like this and they will go straight to chanote eventually with an increase in value. Get in early I say if it is within your family. __________________ Fahn Cahn's

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08-09-2006, 09:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,056	can you be a little less obtuse?

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ChiangMai noon punk douche bag Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: o dan y bryn Posts: 28,056	thanks lom, I thought it was another computer thread. seriously.

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Spin likes big jugs...... Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 10,947	worthless scrub, totally useless. not worth 10 baht per rai. forget about it. Squatters rights.

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mrsquirrel Jarvis fellates goats 4 $ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a rather cold and dark place Posts: 12,433	So how quick can it become Chanoot? How do I prove that it is my land?

09-09-2006, 09:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bung Tounguin for a beer. Last Online: Today 07:35 PM Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Wat Bung Posts: 2,212	In my case it took many years of talking about it before they got around to the chanote, like a lot of things here. I'm still waiting for the road to be paved outside my house after 3 years of "next month". If you want to find out if the chanote is immanent you would need your mrs or whoever is in charge of the land to make enquiries, then do a lot of ass kissing and they may come and do it. My MIL is well connected and was able to "expedite" the whole process by throwing money at it. As I said a 1300B lunch clinched it. Once you have it you could then draw up a lease (if it is the land where your house is). I think this is a better option than the company route personally. If you are worried about chanotes in your wifes name (fair enough too, if it is in her name then she is free to do what she wants with it) then I would buy a safe and don't tell anyone the combo. If you die suddenly they can then cut it open and fight over it!

09-09-2006, 10:08 PM	#13 (permalink)
mrsquirrel Jarvis fellates goats 4 $ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a rather cold and dark place Posts: 12,433	Not so much don't trust her but you just never know what is around the corner. Teh land is chepa enough at 250k for 10 rai. with power and water.. good location. Only problem is if chanoote. Have to look into it in more depth

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dirtydog The Dog Last Online: Today 10:01 PM Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Pattaya Jomtien Posts: 44,928	I think with that if you can prove you have looked after the land for 8 to 10 years then the land goes in your name, well as long as you are a Thai that is, some of my galfriends family have got land this way.

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William Thailand Travel Forum Last Online: 13-01-2010 03:09 PM Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In jail Posts: 5,826	^DD, that's a different legal doctrine, called adverse possession. In Thailand you need to occupy the land for 10 years. It is also the principal reason why you build a wall round your land even if you have nothing on the land itself.

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mrsquirrel Jarvis fellates goats 4 $ Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a rather cold and dark place Posts: 12,433	So if I buy a 100 rai I need to fence it all in?

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