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    Lom, I would agree with you except for the fact that his daughter paid over 43,000 baht for her four rai, and she was family. Klong paid 40,000 a few years ago for three rai in Ubon, so that almost sounds in line with what we paid.

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    I can tell you that all fees and taxes added up to 4.751% of the government's evaluation, which was split 50/50. But that's a condo and not land.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi View Post
    Yes, the income tax of the vendor has something to do with it. They usually pay that 100%

    I found a transfer receipt and there's simply no way that it would add up to exactly X0,000 thb.

    It would be like pulling the lever on a slot machine with 5 wheels, each one with 10 digits, and it coming up at 60,000. It's just not going to happen.
    My feeling is that they backed into that number, no pun intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    You've never seen a Thai slot machine
    I've been in more than a few.

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    If you stick to the story they can't do anything, even the guys who come measure the land tell the locals the same, as did Ricks wife's friend did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico
    did your wife buy from her family, if so she could of said she received the land as a gift and the amount you pay becomes a lot less.
    They're wise to that. They have a guide at the land office which they use for assesing what is payable. Whether you got the land free or paid over the odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    did I get ripped off?
    Best to let it go now, you're not gonna achieve anything except upsetting yourself and your missus.

    Have a couple of beers

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Klong paid 40,000 a few years ago for three rai in Ubon, so that almost sounds in line with what we paid.
    Eh, how can you compare without knowing what value was affixed to the land he bought?

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    Agree, it is just my curiosity. I told my wife how I felt and to just pay the 60,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    Klong paid 40,000 a few years ago for three rai in Ubon, so that almost sounds in line with what we paid.
    Eh, how can you compare without knowing what value was affixed to the land he bought?
    True that.

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    Rick, I always find out things before doing and not go to the office if not needed, makes life less stressful.

    The bottle of whiskey trick use to work wonders in and out of the land office within a couple of hours.

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    I'll try that next time since we need to go through the exact same thing for a one rai parcel we own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dillinger View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickschoppers
    The final fee for changing names on the deed was 60,000 baht
    nearly 10 per cent, I dunno, but my spidey senses tell me they've took the piss
    Especially when there's a Farang associated with the whole scamming theme....

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    Did the 'official receipt' that amounted to exactly 60,000.00thb look like this:



    With each criteria a certain percentageor set amount.

    Or like this:



    With the 60k total written in in hand writing.

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    It looked like the first receipt. It is stashed away and I will look at it again tomorrow. If I remember right the upper portion looked to have a 5 (%?) with a sum off to the right. A paragraph under that in Thai which I could not read, and then another amount off to the right. Both amounts totaled up to 60,000 which was the total fee on the bottom right.

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    There's actually no percentages listed on mine, per se.



    Plus a few on the left that totaled 31 baht, another one that is 9 baht.

    Note the one that is 5 baht.

    Mine was xxx,540thb due to a the last baht digits being 1, 9, 5, 7, 8.

    It's too hard to believe that it would magically round off at exactly 60,000thb.


    I would guess that they decided on this number, then subtracted the set amounts, then calculated whatever % was needed to equal a total of 60,000thb. Kind of doing it backwards and starting with the total, rather than having the value, and calculating the correct % to give the correct amount due.


    If you go a bit further in the coming weeks and feel it's dodgy want more info just giz a pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    It's too hard to believe that it would magically round off at exactly 60,000thb.
    Spot on Luigi

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    Luigi fuk me are you a Thai soap star.

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    Rick call the DBD hotline 1570 there the corruption busters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chico View Post
    Luigi fuk me
    No thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Shagnasty2017 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Luigi
    It's too hard to believe that it would magically round off at exactly 60,000thb.
    Spot on Luigi
    Easier to divvy...
    Quite convenient.
    Thainess.

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    I too belive the total was already decided on and all they did was back into it like I mentioned before and Luigi just said the same thing. All a bit dodgy to me, but I am not so sure it is enough to blow the whistle on anyone. I will be better prepared next time and see if we can get a reasonable tax quote.

    They were definitely discussing the land assessment for quite some time and were probably just deciding how much they wanted to gouge me.

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    Rick put it this way if they've shafted you, they will try again.

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    If they have the government price evaluation of the land just above all those figures, you can work from there.

    For example 1,247,000thb.

    Mine is listed as xxx6,000thb. So it is quite exact and I believe was pulled up from records/documents in the DoLT when we went to transfer.

    I think that this is where they did you.

    Instead of using the proper figure, they decided on the total and went backwards. If it lists the total value of the land as valued by the government, it could help make things clearer. It should be here:



    If this figure is different than it should, you could have them.... If there was an investigation.

    Either they used a much inflated price evaluation instead of the real one, or they 'miscalculated' the percentages.


    Unfortunately....... well, you know.
    Last edited by Luigi; 23-02-2017 at 11:14 PM.

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    Yeah, I know. Thanks Luigi and everyone else who chimed in on this query. I will look at the receipt tomorrow and see if I can figure it out. Spilt milk and all that. ..... In the end, just another day in paradise.

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