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    Alimony for Thai women a legal right in Thai law?

    My understanding is that Western law usually applies to children in Thailand fathered by Western men. That is, if a Western man gets a Thai woman pregnant the Thai woman living in Thailand can have him 'traced' in his home country and made to pay her alimony even if she is in Thailand and he is in his home country.

    I am wondering when Thai men father children with Thai women in Thailand is there Thai law that can make the Thai man pay for the child?

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    Its the same here in Thailand but the goverment doese not follow it up and the girl is to poor to do anything about it.

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    I saw child support actions in California Courts involving children born/fathered by California residents abroad, do not know how widespread the practice is. But yes, there is no legal reason why it could not be done and a wage assignment issued in the father's home (western) country, except the women here usually do not have the money to hire the legal talent necessary to do the tracing and file the foreign action.

    No way any custodial parent will collect child support in Thailand unless hi-so's are involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nevets View Post
    Its the same here in Thailand but the goverment doese not follow it up and the girl is to poor to do anything about it.
    So are you saying if the Tha girl got a Thai lawyer she could do something about it with a Thai man in Thailand?

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    Everything changes because he is a Thai. No one tracks him down, the woman usually doesn't have the money to hire a lawyer. If she did, the lawyer would take her money and nothing would happen. If he did and the man offered enough tea money, the lawyer would say he couldn't find him. If by some very slim chance he was to appear in court, he would tell the judge he doesn't have a job, ect, ect, ect. Sad but true. TIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guyinthailand View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by nevets View Post
    Its the same here in Thailand but the goverment doese not follow it up and the girl is to poor to do anything about it.
    So are you saying if the Tha girl got a Thai lawyer she could do something about it with a Thai man in Thailand?
    As has been said a HiSo with money or some one with a sponser yes the law is the same just never up held due to woman being second class people and poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    so you, AussieTiger, think the law in Thailand is better because males can get away with not paying for their kids?

    AT i know is a responsible adult and has done his kids proud even though he doesn't live full time with them.

    He is however correct when he states that western governments go after the father to ensure that the state pays the absolute minimum towards 'single mother' allowances. From what i hear divorce settlements in Oz can also turn grown men into dribbling wrecks

    The cost of living in Thailand is much more forgiving to foreign fathers of Thai children who wish to take full responsibility even though the partnership has failed. I personally know a few farangs who are doing the decent thing despite there being no/little committment to do so.

    A few more honourable foreign gentlemen out there than perhaps we realise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lick
    AT i know is a responsible adult and has done his kids proud even though he doesn't live full time with them.
    I wasn't questioning his integrity, just what he thinks about the laws

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    IMHO its a no brainer if you have the kid/ kids YOU pay to look after them regardless of whether or not you want to live with the mother , at least until they are 18 years of age.

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    My thai wife had 3 children with a thai. He has never paid child support, even for the 3 years she was single, before marrying me. I've asked her several times why he doesn't pay anything and why she doesn't go after him in court. She refuses to take any action. I ended up bringing my wife and her 3 kids and out 1 kid to the U.S., as it would be cheaper to send them to school here (and a much better school). I and my wife have had many a run ins with the boy. It didn't take him long to learn the U.S. legal system and how he can turn his parents over to the police if they lay a hand on him. He doesn't study much, makes lousy grades, and doesn't help out around the house (he plays video games constantly). I've got two things going for me; in two days, he turns 18 and I have no further legal obligations toward him. If he wants to live here, he will have to live by my rules or I will kick him out (or have the police kick him out, if he doesn't leave voluntarily). Also, he was just arrested as a minor in possession of alcohol (and tested for weed). He will get probation for the next 6 months. It wouldn't help his case if I kicked him out and sent a letter to the court. In any event, he graduates from high school next May and will be leaving at that point, if not sooner.
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    Mrs Tiz's sister was in court a few months ago trying to get her ex to support his 2 boys.

    Her ex is an engineer with a Masters Degree, so would be on a decent (for Thai) salary.

    The judge told him that he should be responsible for his sons. The ex said "but I just bought a new house and the repayments are high. I have no excess to give to my ex-wife".

    And that was that... the judge said that the fellow was irresponsible, but made no directive to force him to support his children.

    I think it cost the sister approx 30,000 baht to take him to court.

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    The judge should have made the twatt sell his house ^ then he would have the money.

    Got his priorities all wrong

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    ^^ The Thai system may be bad, but it's still better than what we have at home. The child support awards at home are so excessive that even having to pay for 1 child will be 40% of most men's incomes, and child support is not even tax deductible.

    The result is that women see the kids as cash cows and men fight for custody or shared custody not out of love for the children but as a matter of financial survival, and that's not an exaggeration. Older kids who understand the system and can basically choose where they want to live actually can decide which parent lives well and which lives in poverty and shop for the best deal between their own parents. You cannot afford to discipline your own teenage child because if he/she decides to go live with the other parent you are financially ruined by the court.
    It's all done on a computer program based on salaries, who gets the child allowance and the percentage of time the child spends with each parent, and it's feminist inspired wickedness.

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    From reading this thread it seems that both systems (Thai and foreign, i.e. Aussie or US) are set up purely to help the state reduce costs and responsibility (not suggesting that this in any way reduces personal responsibility). In Thailand, social welfare is close to non-existent thus the courts/system doesn't give a fuk, they just want the case off the books with limited/no intejerction on their part. In the West, where a social welfare is in place then the courts want to reduce their responsibility with very little or zero concern with the case at hand. As BobR says, it's a computer program...

    Both systems seem to be failing the individuals involved, imho. But, then again, this is no surprise when we consider that the judicial system is set up and maintained by and for a certain social group, and as mentioned above, this social group will be served by the judicial system... One really has to wonder, if you are not rich and corrupt, just what worth judicial systems have in many (most?) instances. Certainly, the notion of blind justice is a red herring...
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    It comes down to this. Man meets woman. Man humps woman. Woman has kid/s. Man or woman leaves. Who ever has the kids might be doing it tough. Seeks money from other party and/or government. Other party either cant pay or doesnt want to pay. Expects government to kick in instead. Government says "you did the crime you do the time" so to speak. Not a perfect solution but you suggest a better one. Dont think you can. All this bullshit about feminazis drafting the law is bullshit. If you dont want to support your kids, dont have any. Simple.

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    Parents should be responsible for their kids. I doubt a Thai would pay a farang a cent if the couple divorced and the farang had the kids.

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    Like the man said if you dont want to look after your offspring dont make any.

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