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    Lamphun house - rough plan to completion

    Here's the story: I promised the Mrs when we had a kid we'd bulldoze her parents house in Lamphun and build a new one. The land is quite valuable, being in a busy industrial area. The chanote goes to the mrs and we short-term finance the land (worth heaps more than a house) and have it built by next April.

    The current house is sunk into the moist ground and falling to bits and I consider this a kind of 'sin-sod', since we are not married and neither of us feel that's important or keen on big ceremonies. The opening of the house will double up as a kind of wedding.

    Also, we are building our own section where we and our children can stay when we move back home, or we have somewhere to live if we end up on the bones of our arse.

    The sister has down syndrome and needs her own room close to the parents and sharing a bathroom with them. I want both the parents and sister's rooms to be quite spacious and can be at the expense of living room space. The living rom does not have to be big (outdoor living area outside parent's bedroom).

    Our wing I want to have a single room that is a decent studio size, big enough to fit a small lounge suite, TV etc as well as a double and single bed. Also our own bathroom that doesn't need to be huge, and finally a small office / den for myself.

    I want it to be kept as simple as possible and one floor only. We have quite a bit area to work with. The living room should open out to an indoor / outdoor kitchen.

    The attached image is a very rough first draft and waay not to scale I just whipped up. Apparently I gotta go to an architect with 6-10K and a rough plan like this.

    Would appreciate input from the TD building veterans. The budget is around 600-700K, been told that should be plenty but will spend a bit extra on quality and nice fittings.


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    btw the boxes that cross the walls are doors and don't cross are windows.

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    Too many doors to the bathroom, they don't need en-suite, also parents room and your room move the doors closer together otherwise your getting too much living room space that can't be used.

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    Great stuff. This is what TD is made of.

    I lived in CM for a year or so when I first moved here and used to love the ride out to Lamphun. A lovely road. Love those trees between the lanes. (there's a story behind them).

    Can't offer much beside internet support. Good luck with it and keep us updated.

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    Do you need 5 external doors ?

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    Cheers for the input fellas keep picking it apart and I'll post a new plan hopefully with some meaningful scale.

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    Here's an idea. You could turn the computer room into another bedroom. It's not quite so boxy and you can save a bit having the plumbing for the bathrooms and kitchen together. You could also take the shared wall with the kitchen and living area down to open it up a bit.

    http://www.mgnewman.com/Travel/show....&show=Homeland

    http://www.mgnewman.com/Travel/show....show=Homeland2

    Last edited by mobs00; 22-10-2011 at 10:33 PM.

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    Sorry 9999 mate I cannot help with the plans as I have no knowledge ,, however I just like to add my best wishes + looking forward to your build as and when ,, and would add massive respect toy u mate with regard to the respect your showing to your extended familly . Good on ya mate !

    My eldest SIL has some big probs and I love her to bits ,, allways hurts me the most when she hugs me at the goodbye at Udon , when leaving back to the UK .
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    good start, can you either move the carport to the kitchen side or flip the house.its much easier unloading the car full of shopping and putting it directly into the kitchen, also too many doors into the lounge (bathroom into lounge is a big no-no). carry on.

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    Dont have the master bedroom looking out to the car port, could change the kitchen to where the master bedroom is now

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    "our bathroom" looks like you could do ten pin bowling in there, or were you intending to install six urinals.
    Shorten it and add a walk in wardrobe to the bedroom

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    Too many doors to the bathroom, they don't need en-suite, also parents room and your room move the doors closer together otherwise your getting too much living room space that can't be used.
    Cheers. Tips like this is why this site is so good especially for building.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    Do you need 5 external doors ?
    Nah, overboard on the doors. Will can the one in parent's br and just put window. Door in 'our studio' is because I want our own private entrance / exit.

    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    You could turn the computer room into another bedroom. It's not quite so boxy and you can save a bit having the plumbing for the bathrooms and kitchen together.
    I like that plan though it doesn't quite fit with the functionality I want, interested seeing more made plans though that could maybe be tweaked. I specifically want my own small office as my space that no other fuka can enter.

    Also don't mind boxy as boxy is simple and will be compensated for with nice gardens and good paint job and quality fittings.

    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    can you either move the carport to the kitchen side or flip the house.its much easier unloading the car full of shopping and putting it directly into the kitchen, also too many doors into the lounge
    True. On the kitchen side is where the parents will park. Trying to look at it as 2 separate dwellings joined together - the parents 2br house and my familie's studio / bathroom / office. So that car park on the side is essentially to park next to our apartment and leave the car there when we are away.

    Quote Originally Posted by nigelandjan
    (bathroom into lounge is a big no-no).
    That seems to contradict what the Dawg said. How can you avoid having bathroom door in living room? Or just a little hallway would be prudent?

    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    Dont have the master bedroom looking out to the car port, could change the kitchen to where the master bedroom is now
    See above. This is 'our' carport for our wing of the house. I like to park here and leave the car beside our wing while we're away. Parents park around kitchen.

    Quote Originally Posted by Thetyim
    "our bathroom" looks like you could do ten pin bowling in there, or were you intending to install six urinals.
    Shorten it and add a walk in wardrobe to the bedroom
    Scale is a big thing, I never done anything like this before. In the next few days I'm going to measure the actual box area for the house and work out dimensions of every room.

    I need to move the bathroom as we can't have our heads facing it, some bullshit they will not concede on that will probably double the plumbing cost.

    BIR next to bathroom is an excellent idea, never thought of that. Mrs has a shitload of stuff so a BIR would be sweet.

    Will keep ya'll posted and please, keep firing in the criticism as it's invaluable and getting the plan right before going to an architect is a big advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999 View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    You could turn the computer room into another bedroom. It's not quite so boxy and you can save a bit having the plumbing for the bathrooms and kitchen together.
    I like that plan though it doesn't quite fit with the functionality I want, interested seeing more made plans though that could maybe be tweaked. I specifically want my own small office as my space that no other fuka can enter.

    Also don't mind boxy as boxy is simple and will be compensated for with nice gardens and good paint job and quality fittings.
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    ^ nice site cheers mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9999
    Originally Posted by nigelandjan can you either move the carport to the kitchen side or flip the house.its much easier unloading the car full of shopping and putting it directly into the kitchen, also too many doors into the lounge True. On the kitchen side is where the parents will park. Trying to look at it as 2 separate dwellings joined together - the parents 2br house and my familie's studio / bathroom / office. So that car park on the side is essentially to park next to our apartment and leave the car there when we are away. Quote: Originally Posted by nigelandjan (bathroom into lounge is a big no-no). That seems to contradict what the Dawg said. How can you avoid having bathroom door in living room? Or just a little hallway would be prudent?
    Excuse me mate I did,nt post any of that above ^^ if you go back and read MY post I started out by saying I could offer NO advice as I had no knowledge of the subject

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    Rather than having your study and bathroom at either end of your studio why don't you have them side by side? You can rotate the bathroom 90 deg. This could allow you to move 'their bathroom' so the two bathrooms are also side by side to make plumbing easier.

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    A BLOODY BIG LOCK ON YOUR OWN PERSONAL KITCHEN WOULD BE A GOOD START AND A WALK IN SAFE TO LOCK UP EVERYTHING ELSE YOU OWN. CHOK DEE.

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    I think many good suggestions were initially made but think the site orientation and scale is needed to make more informed suggestions. I do wonder about the long term practicality of the Idea of single room wing for you and your kid on the way. I know many families live in multi generational single bedroom but from the sounds it may not suit your need for privacy. As I take it the sister is the wife's.

    Since land space is not a concern maybe better to invest in an additional room now for a extra play/bed room for when the child starts to walk as seems a little short sighted design wise to expatiation later with minimal cost or interruption to current layout use.

    I do wonder about the layout and design with regards to the plot and sight lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    I do wonder about the long term practicality of the Idea of single room wing for you and your kid on the way.
    Agreed. I'd never have the kids sleeping with me, unless I intentionally wanted them to grow up as Thais.

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    9999 - Since your financing. As interest rates are surly going to increase I would hate to see you or your Mrs. having to struggle, when that happens. Make sure your rates are actually locked in for your term, as in Thailand and often have clauses to make sure the bank can raise them if actually desire to.. So double check that before financing .


    Marmite The Dog, Thanks for your agreement on the design suggestion, but being a Thai (see my actual name), I hope that racial slur wasn't meant to be taken personally. Hopefully I am to assume it was merely meant as the normal mindless "native bashing" that one expects to be bombarded with from frustrated or bored "farangs" that have to live here.

    I know...."pearls"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by somchit srimoon
    I hope that racial slur wasn't meant to be taken personally.
    Not at all, unless you're one of the common Thai male oxygen thieves that still clings to their mother's breast in adulthood.

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    ^^ Extremely good grammer and punctuation for a Thai SS ,,,,, amazing !!

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    Thanks, I work part time as a Thai MFA approved translator. Not to mention a good education and years working in English daily. Don't forget beauty of grammar and spell checkers. So don't be too impressed, unless you need my services. hahaha

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    I wonder why the topic goes from building a house for an extended family to being the kids raised as Thais....I'm just wondering what nationality the mothers of these kids you are raising are, and why the bashing of somebody who- perhaps- knows about building loans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebeth
    I wonder why the topic goes from building a house for an extended family to being the kids raised as Thais
    Because that's what conversations do.

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