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    FREE HOT WATER in Thailand

    Before making this posting I tried the SEARCH function here on TD with HOT WATER and with HOT+WATER but they both decided I was only looking for water and gave me more than 500 results ... The search engine also mentioned to me "The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search: hot" ...... Ohhhh! OK ...
    It cost's nothing to be nice!

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    Washing the car in HOT WATER!

    This is what overcame me a short while ago when quite to my amazement I nearly burned my hand when spraying the car with water from our garden hose.

    I will first explain the circumstances and then I need to hear from anyone who may have some more development ideas from this ...

    I will try to exlain with some photo's that I have although they are not taken at the time as I am not at our house in Thailand at the moment.

    Our garden hose is normal home-pro plastic water pipe, nothing special although to reach all points of the house that I would need to use it we joined two lengths of 50 meters to make a very long 100 meter hose.

    One end of the hose pipe is connected to an outside cold water supply which does have a tap. The tap at the time of finding the very hot water in the hose was open (possibly forgot to close it). At the other end of the hose pipe is a Gardenia multi spray nozzel with a pistol hand grip and various setings from fine mist spray right through to jet.

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    Solar Power Hot Water ...

    Obviously what happened is that the full 100 meter length of the hose was left on the concrete driveway in the full sun most of the morning and it was possibly arround 3pm when I decided to wash the car.

    It shouldn't have been such a shock you might say as the water in the pipe obviously was heating up for quite some time before it was by the pistol grip spray head, but this water was HOT !!!!

    Someone told me I should be lucky that the hose pipe was not black as the water temperature would have been even hotter.

    Anybody know anything about Black as towards other colours?

    I know that black colour absorbs and white reflects ..

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    The pipes in the sun wont last long, also 3 letters in the search isn't enough, 4 letters per word, solar would be a good one

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    The pipes in the sun wont last long, also 3 letters in the search isn't enough, 4 letters per word, solar would be a good one
    Hello and thanks for the feedback ..

    I learned by my mistake there ... Already had a hose pipe crack on me when it was wound up on the roll and the exposed end heated up and eventually burst .. Which is why I (nearly always) remember to switch off the water supply at the mains ..

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    HOT WATER escapes from the pistol grip spray head ...

    So what happens ...
    As soon as I started to spray the car HOT WATER escapes from the pistol grip spray head and is replaced at the other end by the mains COLD WATER which is forcing it's way allong the pipe.

    Firstly I was amazed at the amount of HOT WATER in the pipe.

    I think it must have been a full 3 or 4 minutes before I noticed that the water was back to cool (Thai temperature cold water).

    I started to check this out on the internet and found a few articles and a few videos on YouTube where others have utilised this free warm water ....

    Besides the videos being quite humoreus they did give me some ideas ..

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    The BIG QUESTION ...

    If I attached an even longer pipe, possibly one that wouldn't perrish in the sun (originally Posted by dirtydog : "The pipes in the sun wont last long")

    ... then could I use this method to get FREE warm water for the shower or washing the dishes?

    We have a huge flat sun terrace area where I could lay out a very long pipe and then possibly cover the whole area in plexiglas ?????

    Anyone's thoughts ???

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    This is a photo of our sun terrace area (Photo taken during the build) that I mentioned in my previous post ...

    We have a huge flat sun terrace area where I could lay out a very long pipe and then possibly cover the whole area in plexiglas ?????
    Anyones thoughts ???


    This area gets sun most of the day ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilandmeechai
    Anyone's thoughts?
    Quite a few here

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...r-heaters.html (Solar Hot Water heaters)

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    But my long hose pipe is 100% FREE .....

    Quote Originally Posted by Marmite the Dog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by neilandmeechai
    Anyone's thoughts?
    Quite a few here

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...r-heaters.html (Solar Hot Water heaters)
    Hi and thanks again for the feedback ..

    Certainly a useful thread with quite a lot of very useful comments (especially from Loy Toy and DrAndy). What I did notice is that many of the systems discussed there are commercial and costly, and as it has been discussed many times solar often costs more than it delivers ...

    But my long hose pipe is 100% FREE .....

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    You could embed it in a small layer of concrete in the garden, paint that black, then some glass raised with a frame about 3cm above it.

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    Too much tropical growth in the garden ...

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    You could embed it in a small layer of concrete in the garden, paint that black, then some glass raised with a frame about 3cm above it.
    Sounds like quite an idea (especially paining it black) but we have so much tropical growth in the garden (which I love!) so it is not very much more than a few hours of full sun, whereas the sun terrace was built to get as much of the sun as possible ..

    Too late now .. but we could have had pipes laid under the concrete driveway and then had that painted black ....

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    Your balcony is going to bake with no cover. I have the same problem on one balcony but only for about 4 months of the year in hot season. The kids room has the biggest balcony in the house but no cover, the one in the master has the roof built over it and its cool and fine.

    But starting now till the end of May it is hot as hell, it faces due west into the sunset at that time of year as well. Its above the car park so its the least shaded place in the house.

    If I want to cover it I might as well expand the kids room as well and take it out. But not for now.

    Here is the offending balcony.



    Nothing is kept out on that deck in the hot season. but just to the right is our balcony, behind the trees, and shaded well, but the view out is fine, and its cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aging one
    Nothing is kept out on that deck in the hot season.
    But you could always fry some eggs !!

    Very nice looking house you have there!

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    As is yours, and yes we have fried eggs out there. I have to have the maid hose it down a couple of times a day, or the heat coming up goes right into the kids room. In the peak of the heat I have to turn the air con on at least an hour before they can think about going upstairs. The only drawback to a wonderful house. I hope you are as happy as we are 12 years after you have lived in yours.

    The muban is much like yours with a nice pool and fitness center, sauna as well. The plots are a bit bigger though as mine is on the small side at 110 Wah. But its on a klong in the back of my house, so no neighbors that side.


    Sorry for the hijack, had a beer and got going. Time to cook anyway. Watch those hoses. I once brought a black one back here decades ago, silly mistake.

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    A long pipe Ok ! but how are you going to store the hot water ? let say 30 liters for a shower ? the long 10 meters or 20 meters pipe will store only maybe 5 liters ! no ?
    i use a lot of hot water so I am very concerne by your question..

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    Use it whilst it's warm!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mamasun View Post
    A long pipe Ok ! but how are you going to store the hot water ? let say 30 liters for a shower ? the long 10 meters or 20 meters pipe will store only maybe 5 liters ! no ?
    i use a lot of hot water so I am very concerne by your question..
    Hi .. Thanks for the comments ...
    I don't need to store the hot water (or we start to get into investment!) all I thought is use it whilst it's there!
    I also tried to find out how much water was in the pipe and came to the approximate conclusion that 100 meters of 3/4inch hose pipe was about 25 to 30 liters. Quite a surprising amount of water and plenty to have a free warm shower .... with the added luxury of a slow cool down at the end!
    This is also plenty of water to do the washing up after dinner ...

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    Nice big plot you have!

    Quote Originally Posted by aging one View Post
    As is yours, and yes we have fried eggs out there. I have to have the maid hose it down a couple of times a day, or the heat coming up goes right into the kids room. In the peak of the heat I have to turn the air con on at least an hour before they can think about going upstairs. The only drawback to a wonderful house. I hope you are as happy as we are 12 years after you have lived in yours.

    The muban is much like yours with a nice pool and fitness center, sauna as well. The plots are a bit bigger though as mine is on the small side at 110 Wah. But its on a klong in the back of my house, so no neighbors that side.

    Sorry for the hijack, had a beer and got going. Time to cook anyway. Watch those hoses. I once brought a black one back here decades ago, silly mistake.
    Nice of you to drop a note .. and it was great for you to say "I hope you are as happy as we are 12 years after you have lived in yours". I think if we can carry on as in the past few years then it was the best move ever! .. Thanks again ...

    PS: Do people really use the sauna?

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    Yes why not ! in this case we need to use something flexible and black !..and do it in a snake circle figure ...maybe water garden pipe by exemple.

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    The house, has a roof, it will get sun all day long....... put piping on roof ?

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    Wouldn't look so nice ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Fondles View Post
    The house, has a roof, it will get sun all day long....... put piping on roof ?
    Hi Fondles, and thanks for the feedback ...
    Yes, we got a free roof when we bought the house! .. ha, ha!, but seriously I'm just looking at the various ways (including the roof) of laying out my 100 meters (or longer) of hose pipe but I still want things to look nice as we live in a village complex where half the ladies in the street are called Bucket (Pronounced Bouquet!).

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    ^You really want to keep the wind off the pipes as that causes cooling, although on a hot day with no wind it will end up as a gooey mess of molten rubber

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    meechai , your trying to reinvent the wheel .

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    Possibly cover with Perspex or Plexiglas?

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^You really want to keep the wind off the pipes as that causes cooling, although on a hot day with no wind it will end up as a gooey mess of molten rubber
    Very true Dirtydog! ... and I'm sure as you say that the wind must affect the temperature in the pipe. I wondered about covering the whole spiral of hose pipe with "plexiglas" or perspex to enable me to still use the sun terrace.

    I have found someone who has done this on a garage roof and they have posted a video on You-tube but I don't think I can attach a link to this (or possibly I don't know how to!).

    Thanks again for the feedback ...

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    Tell me more please ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mid View Post
    meechai , your trying to reinvent the wheel .
    Incomplete statement?

    Please tell me more ....

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