Thread: Water heater problem: smell of burning

ok I have successfully removed the unit, pics coming

I did take a few electrical shocks in the process

I could turn off the electricity as I was in the dark, and doing it with live wire is much more fun anyway, like doing a skillful stunt in Mission Impossible

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I could turn off the electricity as I was in the dark

Surprised the water heater is not on a separate circuit breaker from the lights.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

ok here it is, as you can see, something doesn't look right, it's electrical

LOOKS TERMINAL!!!!! Don't even bother. Toss it and buy a new before you fry yourself.

Originally Posted by Norton

Surprised the water heater is not on a separate circuit breaker from the lights.

yeah didn't have time to try them all by getting electrical shocks

now what unit to get ? I think I will do the installation, it's really simple, I might have questions though about the order of the wires to be plugged

Fujika was a piece of shit at the end, definitely Thai made from the pics I posted, crappy wires and crappy components. I am thinking Siemens or Panasonic. All well built inside, will show pics when I go to the store again this afternoon.

went to Emporium yesterday, but the staff were all sleeping or watching TV and didn't want to be bothered with customers questions. Next time I will bring peanuts with me to wake them up or watch TV with them

The crappy brands have free installation, probably what DrB got in his village.

The expensive ones have a 500 THB charge. Very cheap, but I am not going to bother with an idiot installer, and will do the job myself far better. I am getting good at this

maybe I will finish my ceiling

Yep. It's either corrosion on the screws, in the terminal block, or they're loose. That causes the resistance to rise which leads to the overheating.

Get a new terminal block.... cut the ends off the incoming mains lead and the internal wires and refit them.

Originally Posted by Butterfly

I am thinking Siemens or Panasonic

I've found Siemens to be good. Don't know about Panasonic.

Panasonic also OK, although the one I had needed a couple of components over three years

BF, the guys that fit the heaters are usually good, much better than French monkeys

^ how can they be good when they are going to fuck it up ? This is Bangkok, not some remote village where there is only one installation per year and the guys are careful

I will stick to the French monkey

well, I had mine fitted in Chiang Mai and they were good; when they came back a few months later to change a faulty part, they knew exactly what was wrong

I would have thought in Bkk that they are also experienced

Originally Posted by DrAndy

they knew exactly what was wrong

of course they knew, they fucked it up

wrong, BF

it was a failure of one heater element, nothing to do with their work

well maybe, but not taking any chance, will do the install and a picture thread

the whole thing should take less than 15min,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

the whole thing should take less than 15min,

yeah ok......

Originally Posted by Butterfly

well maybe, but not taking any chance, will do the install and a picture thread

the whole thing should take less than 15min,

Is that 15 Thai minutes, or 15 real minutes?

need to buy the unit first

that will take 14 minutes

Don't get a too big kilowatt heater! The wire that has been hot does not look big enough for an 8 kw heater to me! Not sure of the scale of the photo.

See http://www.energy-solutions.co.uk/cable_conductor.html

A bit thinner be ok. but not much.

^ good point, the wires were hot. Should I get thicker ones ? or thinner ones ? not clear,

Originally Posted by DrAndy

that will take 14 minutes

with traffic more like 50min,

Originally Posted by Butterfly

^ good point, the wires were hot. Should I get thicker ones ? or thinner ones ? not clear,

Thicker ones!!

In the UK they would use 16 mm sq cable for each of the two cables.This is massive stuff.About 3 mm diameter.

I think I have kept some cables from another project,

so the idiot monkeys also fucked up the wiring ?

thank god that electricity wiring is my specialty now