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    Permission to build

    I was today in the "O bo tor" office for the build permission...they told me that i can't put the house on my name !!!

    The land is on leasing..but i really need to have the house on my name...what can i do ?

    Thanck's for any advices...

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    they can tell you what they like

    sometimes they are right

    you can put the house in the same name as the land, and then get a lease made out to yourself, so it would be the same thing

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    No, because...i have a contract who says that if they want the land after 30 years they need to pay me back the house ! if i put on the same name that land, after 30 years they will put me directly out !

    I thinck its maybe only the permission to build that need a Thai name ? and not the house what do you thinck ?

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    House can sort of go in your name. Yellow book.

    Lease is in your name.
    They should have to pay a bit for the house at the end, although they probably don't know that.
    Keep all the receipts for the house.
    Although your yellow book will have your name in it it isn't proof of ownwership.
    Unfortunately there is no provision in Thailand for a foreiner to proove ownership of a house, but you can proove ownership of a condo.
    Falling asleep and waking up is not the same as passing out and coming to.

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    It's called usufruct. There is a big write up on it here.

    But the moral of the story is GET A LAWYER.

    Usufruct Thailand | contract | agreement | sample

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    I love this bit, such diplomatic wording.

    7) I will be fully protected with a Usufruct
    False. Imagine that you bought a big house in a small village near the family of your girlfriend. Now, imagine that things go wrong with her and you decide to expulse her from this house. You have the legal right to do it. But do you really think your life will be nice and quiet near her family, in a big house, in the middle of nowhere? Usufruct will legally protect you but there are situations where even a legal protection won’t have any authority in face of the reality.

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    Hum , in my case i don't see how i can make an usefruit about a house who is not allreaday build and...my probléme is to find a Thai name or ? to get this build permission ! my plans are from an Thai architect and Thai ingenior .

    I am a woman alone...so nothing to do with a Thai girlfriend or boyfriend !

    will it be possible to put the permission build on my architect name ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamasun View Post
    will it be possible to put the permission build on my architect name ?
    Yes it is possible .... and maybe even advisable.

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    I think you get the usufruct from the land owner, but as I said, you are dealing with Thai law, so consult a Thai lawyer.

    Sunbelt are a well known company that know the ins and outs of all this.

    http://www.sunbeltlegaladvisors.com/

    They also advertise that they will do a free consultation.

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    My land is in the name of a thai,which I'm not related to,and on which she has taken a mortgage with me that is registered at the land office and additional I have a lease which gets renewed every 3 years because you can't register both in the same name.
    My building permit,electricity transformer and meter and everything else what is needed are in my name and I have a blue and yellow book with both only my name inside.
    When I went to the obotor the first time none of all these would be possible for a farang,so I was told.

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    EVERYTHING is in my name.
    From UBC to the tiny water bill.

    It's all possible, but you still can't prove you own the house.
    Keep the check bins.

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    ^When the building license and the constructor bills are in your name I'm sure you have a proof of owning the house.
    Another "insurance" is to have clearly written in the lease that there ar no buildings on the land.

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    Whatever you do this will not end well ---if you ask enough people you will hear the answer you want ----most of these answers maybe OK in theory but they will not work

    KISS ---there's endless property to rent at a good price so be happy and rent cheaply

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    well, if you happy in a rent house,hope to you..i choice to buy (lease) and build..so it's mean, that i am going to take my time and find a solution..thanck you

    thanck's everybody for all others advices, i will let you know here what's happend .
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    The simple fact is that you can't own the land, but you can effectively own the house for the duration of the lease, or you can own a condo, provided certain legal conditions are met.

    You're never 100% protected, but if you want to be as near to that as possible, FFS just consult a decent lawyer. How hard is this to understand?

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    How hard is this to understand ? as hard it the way you "speak" to me !

    so please a liitle gentle way will be welcome...

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