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    Kitchen Hobbs

    First of all, thanks to the Fresh Prince for the recommendation. The guy seems to know his stuff.

    I'm undecided about kitchen hobbs whether to go ceramic, induction (but too expensive) or stick to gas. assume with induction you need dedicated pans etc?

    Is gas a better option over ceramic?

    I've looked at Siemens and Franke which look nice so i'll opt for either one of those, or possibly MEX.

    Incidentally, does anyone know if these products, or any other kitchen kit is available at Power Buy as i might need to spread the payments having put the money to one side for the building work and just forked out for a motor?

    I know Central Chidlom have a small selection of Siemens and Electrolux hobbs. Anywhere else with a better selection as i need hood and cooker too.

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    HomePro mate.

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    Unfortunately homepro only have finance on certain models. Shame vos they have a decent range to choose from.

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    I love induction, but they do cost

    gas has the usual associated problems with keeping the bottles etc

    ceramic are a bit dated, and need to be kept very clean

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    ^ Am i right in thinking you needed dedicated pans for induction?

    The gas cylinder is something i'd rather not have, but there's plenty of room to conceal and gain access if needed.

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    Induction hobs look good to me



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    ^ Do you work for fookin' Siemens are what?

    I don't think the Mo' inlaw has a machine gun.

    The induction does look good. Having said that i did have the Siemens ceramic in the UK and had no problems other than cleaning it. Although i like cooking i think the mother will shit herself using modern tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^ Am i right in thinking you needed dedicated pans for induction?

    The gas cylinder is something i'd rather not have, but there's plenty of room to conceal and gain access if needed.

    yes, you need pans that can set up an inductive field, generating heat

    any pan to which a magnet can stick will work, so some stainless steel, all cast iron etc

    you can find then easily but they are quite expensive in Thailand; they are making sets in China now that you can get in the Uk for about £40 for five pans

    we found an excellent 30cm pan with lid in Central for B1200

    having used all three types of heat, gas and induction are the best for flexibility, but induction is cleaner and easier. The hob is also easier to keep clean, no fiddly bits with the new types of all glass with touch controls
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    Induction is great. We have it and would not use anything else again after that. That is in Germany. The advantages are very quick heat, high power like gas but much better than gas at low settings because easily adjustable. Also easy to keep clean.

    When setting up a more simple kitchen in the Philippines we will use gas as it is cheap. The chance of desaster is quite small as long as you make sure the equipment is in good working order and the kitchen is well ventilated so even if there is a leak gas cannot build up too much.

    We use stainles steel pots and most of those are capable of induction cooking now. We found out that our set was already induction capable so needed only frying pans. All enamel pots are also induction capable.

    As DrAndy alredy said, if a magnet sticks to the bottom it can be used on induction.

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    Cheers for the info. Think i might go for one of those 2 ring induction jobs with a separate single gas hob for the mother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Think i might go for one of those 2 ring induction jobs with a separate single gas hob for the mother.
    Those are the table top versions, not the built in ones? They usually come with a temperature setting plus the normal power 1 to 10 settings. Those are not good at low values. Their lowest setting is still quite high.

    The more expensive build in ones are much better and without the unreliable temperature settings. But the simple ones are still ok and an improvement over conventional electric.

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    ^Siemens, Smeg Mex and Franke has dual flush mount hobs. Already viewed them.

    Smeg 29k for the 2 ring or 49k for four.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    First of all, thanks to the Fresh Prince for the recommendation.
    No problem.

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    Wouldn't use anything other than gas personally. We just bought a MEX twin ring gas hob for 7,000thb. It will be fitted in the next couple of days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus
    Wouldn't use anything other than gas personally.
    Proof that you never tried induction.

    At least for a european style kitchen induction is the best you can have by far.

    For an asian style kitchen I might agree with you though.

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    Have Happy flame from Tescos 1500 baht.
    My food is just as hot as yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^Siemens, Smeg Mex and Franke has dual flush mount hobs. Already viewed them.

    Smeg 29k for the 2 ring or 49k for four.

    expensive!! I brought mine with me from UK; I managed to find a display model at half price =£300, and the Thai customs just let it through

    what is it?
    it's a present
    expensive?
    no, cheap

    Ok, go

    They are really nice to use, look great (just flush to the worksurface black glass) and convenient

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    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers
    Proof that you never tried induction.
    Proof you don't flambé.

    As a former chef I always use gas.

    Induction is a fine idea (as were electric hobs and ceramic) for housewives and people who's culinary expertise extend as far as to boil-in-the-bag.

    Open flame is the only way to cook properly IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Takeovers
    Proof that you never tried induction.
    Proof you don't flambé.

    As a former chef I always use gas.

    Induction is a fine idea (as were electric hobs and ceramic) for housewives and people who's culinary expertise extend as far as to boil-in-the-bag.

    Open flame is the only way to cook properly IMO.

    many chefs use induction nowadays, even the TV versions

    as you were a chef some time ago, maybe you have not kept up!

    as for flambe, you can do that with a match or on a trolley, if you want to be truly nouveau

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    For proper restaurant cooking to be replicated at home it has to be open flame IMO.

    Never seen proper restaurant kitchens with anything other than gas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus
    Proof you don't flambé.
    True, but you can flambé on induction too IF you have an exhaust installed that can handle it. I haven't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus
    As a former chef I always use gas.
    Former being the operative word here. Restaurants are starting to switch over. Gas kitchens need very strong airflow and have to handle enormous amounts of waste heat. Much easier to install a kitchen with induction. No doubt however that I don't come near your cooking expertise.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrAndy
    many chefs use induction nowadays, even the TV versions
    The TV cooks don't really count as they will use anything they get advertising fees for.

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    Remember you can't cook on an induction surface with a wok properly either so that's most Asian cooking out of the window.

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    We use the wok on our induction set.

    Here a photo of it on our first simple test device. We used that to try and then decided to go induction for our new kitchen.


    The wok from below


    I had 3 cap nuts welded in place as feet so it stands firmly on a flat surface.
    But there are now special wok plates available too.

    The efficiency of induction is much higher than gas. So if I have an induction plate with 2.8kW it compares with a 5kW gas ring. Of course there are gas wok burners available with 10 or 12kW but I don't think many have that at home. That would be more for restaurants.
    Last edited by Takeovers; 10-10-2010 at 03:00 AM.

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    From what i can figure out, gas and induction are the best for cooking. Gas is cheaper and there are some nice units from Siemens and MEX which i've looked at at around 11k with options of 2 and 4 gas rings.

    However, induction seems much safer and i assume would produce less heat in the room and possibly less gooey stuff that sticks to the roof over time, even with a hood in use.

    On the other hand the mother will think it's the devils work as she won't understand how the hob can cook with not heat so she probably wouldn't use it. In the UK i used to cook daily (Siemens Ceramic) and was fond of Indian food which i cooked myself, but here i think i will probably just do fry-ups and baked potatoes or similar (oven) as the mother cooks the spicy foods.

    Probably opt for this gas hob if we go that way. 11,900

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