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    Kitchen fitter recommendations.

    The wife and i are in the process of kitchen planning and wondered if there were any good fitters in and around the BKK area. We have looked at Home Pro which have some reasonable stuff and a shopping complex at Bang Khea opposite Big C (Can't remember the name, Index i think).

    Back in the UK i spent about 20K pounds and i have seen kitchens here around the 200k mark without cooker, but includes hobb that look very similar in quality. So my max budget is 200k including Hobb and hood but excluding other fittings such as cooker.

    Incidentally, i have seen some kitchen surfaces which look similar to DuPont Corian (Injected plastic that looks like granite). It's more expensive than granite so is it supposed to be better?

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    We are going with this lot I think.

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    I am not happy with the quality of Index/Winner furniture I have so I won't touch a kitchen from them and Home Pro didn't impress bar one style which had a metal surface and looked like a proper chef's kitchen however it cannot be properly fully fitted and at closer inspection probably Index quality.

    I am leaning towards a Q-Con block then tiled lower section with wood doors rather than full wood cabinets, granite counter-top, gas hob, built in s/s oven and microwave and s/s sink. I have about 2.5 x 3.0m space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Incidentally, i have seen some kitchen surfaces which look similar to DuPont Corian (Injected plastic that looks like granite). It's more expensive than granite so is it supposed to be better?
    If only people in the UK could afford real granite, yet here you are thinking about buying fake granite which is going to cost you more than the real thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus View Post
    We are going with this lot I think.

    Kitzcho :: บริษัท คิทซ์โชอินเตอร์เนชั่นแนล จำกัด :: ครัว ชุดครัว ห้องครัว ครัวปูน โต๊ะอาหาร Kitchen ออกแบบชุดครัว

    I am not happy with the quality of Index/Winner furniture I have so I won't touch a kitchen from them and Home Pro didn't impress bar one style which had a metal surface and looked like a proper chef's kitchen however it cannot be properly fully fitted and at closer inspection probably Index quality.

    I am leaning towards a Q-Con block then tiled lower section with wood doors rather than full wood cabinets, granite counter-top, gas hob, built in s/s oven and microwave and s/s sink. I have about 2.5 x 3.0m space.
    Q-con. Is that the plastic surface that looks like granite. If so, why is it much more expensive than granite?

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    Q-Con are the bricks they use before they cement and render. Different sizes used for different walls.

    My lower kitchen cabinets will be made from Q-Con with wooden cabinet doors then tiled instead of full wood cabinets.

    For the upper cabinets, they will be all wood.

    Here is a kitchen being built from Q-Con blocks.

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...a-kitchen.html (Mickey Mouse House Gets A Kitchen)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones
    Incidentally, i have seen some kitchen surfaces which look similar to DuPont Corian (Injected plastic that looks like granite). It's more expensive than granite so is it supposed to be better?
    If only people in the UK could afford real granite, yet here you are thinking about buying fake granite which is going to cost you more than the real thing
    The fake granite as you put it there are many makes of it, the best thing about it there are no joints but it is obviously not as durable as the real granite.

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    I've done 2 kitchens in the last 18 months one in my house which was from Absolute we eventually got there cause I have the experience, but had I left it to the boys who knows what would have happened Took to long to finish infact weeks this missing that missing and expensive.

    The other in my wifes offices only small goes around 2 walls I but that one from SB Design center in fact we bought everything for the offices from the one place great service not one problem they said they come on the 17th they were there 2 van loads about 6 guys everything done in one day cleaned up and took all there shit with them. take a look at SB

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    ^There are as many joints in fake granite as there is in real granite counter tops.

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    I have just had my new kitchen built. I had a separate team build the cabinets and fit the granite work surface and tiles. I'm happy with both jobs but was more impressed with my granite guy. He was so fast and efficient and has really done a spot on job. He said that he could have done a better job for me on the cabinets. His boss, (my friend) is a fluent English speaking Thai (oxford educated).

    If you would like his contact details for him to come and make a quote then pm me and I can help you out.

    I paid 40k for my cabinets and 25k for the granite and tiles. Let me have a look for a pic from one of my cooking threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^There are as many joints in fake granite as there is in real granite counter tops.
    No there isn't because they fill them in and sand them down so you don't see any joints when it's finished it just looks like one piece.

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    Quartz is a naturally occurring substance, and in ground-up form it is combined with resins to form a hard surface much like engineered granite. Most quartz countertops are well over 90% quartz, which gives it the hardness and lack of porosity needed for the heavy demands of cooking. Some manufacturers also combine antibacterial substances.

    The chief benefit of the quartz countertop is its natural luster. Whereas pure polymer-based solid surface countertops such as Corian have a hard time achieving a deep, three-dimensional appearance, it's easy for quartz countertops to have this because of their natural appearance. Also, quartz is extremely hard and makes for a good work surface. When dealing with natural slab granite you're going to have a lot more problems with potential cracks and staining than you will with quartz. Also, the installers have a bit easier time dealing with quartz than they do with granite because it is a more forgiving material for fabrication.



    Because quartz countertops are engineered, almost any type of color can be brought out in the surface by means of pigmentation. Not only that, but other types of organic materials such as stone and glass can be incorporated into the quartz-resin mixture.

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    ^^^.Thats a bit like saying you don't see the joints between tiles etc

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    Either way i'm going for granite as it looks better.

    I want a contemporary design with plane white cabinets and stainless fitting with granite work surfaces.

    The kitchen isn't that big, about 11-12ft square so shouldn't be too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtydog View Post
    ^^^.Thats a bit like saying you don't see the joints between tiles etc
    DD you have obviously not seen what I'm talking about you cannot see any joints on my worktop

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus View Post
    Q-Con are the bricks they use before they cement and render. Different sizes used for different walls.

    My lower kitchen cabinets will be made from Q-Con with wooden cabinet doors then tiled instead of full wood cabinets.

    For the upper cabinets, they will be all wood.

    Here is a kitchen being built from Q-Con blocks.

    http://teakdoor.com/construction-in-...a-kitchen.html (Mickey Mouse House Gets A Kitchen)
    That kitchen looks quite nice. My only concern would be with hygiene as nasty stuff gets in the grout, and over a period of time will need re-grouting. My first place had similar but i didn't realize it was called Q-con

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    Tiles are not hygienic because of the grout will store bacteria

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    As you can see is not completed just at this point we was almost finished renovating the whole house

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    ^ Thanks more like it but with black granite tops.

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    you can have whatever colour you want

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    Bugger, wish I'd gone for white cupboards now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus Jones View Post
    ^ Thanks more like it but with black granite tops.
    Just a little tip regarding black granite tops dont no if you have ever used before first there are many different grades, I have built a couple of houses and one I did use black it shows every stain I was forever wiping it down.

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