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    Building an Infinity Edge Pool

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    On the shopping list is an infinity edge swimming pool.

    What sort of costs to build?

    Only small, 10m x 3m and about 1.5m deep.

    What sort of set-up is best? Salt or chemical?

    Cheers.

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    Like this?


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    Something like this, the size I mentioned in the OP.


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    ^The sea view will cost about 2,000 quid per square meter, the pool about 10,000baht to 12,000baht per square meter.

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    So for the size I want I'm looking at 300 - 360K and then the price of the pumps etc?

    What price for pumps etc?

    Also, salt or chemical?

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    Salt, only way to go, depending on the size of the pool about 35k for a chlorinate unit.
    I bought a new pump about a year ago about 25k, Australians seem to make the best pool equipment


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    I'll get back to you latter today mate.

    A mate of mine just had an updated quote.

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    A lot depends on where you are building it, if you live on the side of a mountain or just on flat ground OK the concrete and steel same price then what kind of tiles you like go from 250 baht sqm upto whatever.

    Then the equipment but stay away from the chinese shit you'll be lucky to get 1 year out of it, in my experience with pool equipment and I'm not biased to any company the best I have come across for reliability and durability is an Aussie company "Water Co" I dont know where you live but here in Phuket the company who are the main agents for Water co is a Bangkok based Co give good after service and backup and always been easy to get repaired and replacement parts when I have a problem with any pool I just call the engineers direct usually they come same day.

    If they have to take a pump away the guys always have a spare one in the van, don't have to wait a week to use the pool.

    As for Salt or Chemicals upto you which you prefer but again we get most problems with salt water pools and the salt machines.

    People always say I got a salt water pool, no you haven't the machine correct name is "Salt water Clorinater" it produces chlorine gas from the salt

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    One we waited 4 weeks to get a pump repaired no parts in Thailand and nobody was a trained engineer

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    DD's price is spot on, I just had one built. The price includes everything Pumps, filters, Pump house, Pool cleaning tools and water. Oh! and first month maintenance and cleaning free with I think a two year guarantee!

    I'll post the pics soon!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    A lot depends on where you are building it, if you live on the side of a mountain or just on flat ground
    You bet. The where price also driven by region. If up in the middle of Isaan, price will be higher if you can even find a builder with equivalent quality as you find in urban/tourist areas.

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    How much for an actual 10m X ∞m pool?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norton View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed
    A lot depends on where you are building it, if you live on the side of a mountain or just on flat ground
    You bet. The where price also driven by region. If up in the middle of Isaan, price will be higher if you can even find a builder with equivalent quality as you find in urban/tourist areas.
    Thats rite in Phuket the whole world and his wife think they can build pools I've seen some disasters coz the prices they give it not possible to finish it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    Something like this, the size I mentioned in the OP.

    That looks like a liner or fiberglass pool?

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    ^I have no idea. It was just to give an idea as to the look compared to the picture the other guy posted.

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    ^ the other picture is from AKA Resort in Hua Hin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostradamus
    ^ the other picture is from AKA Resort in Hua Hin.
    Not from the villas we stayed in when we were there a couple of weeks ago.

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    I think he meant the other pool behind that tree


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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles
    Not from the villas we stayed in when we were there a couple of weeks ago.
    No, those were probably the deluxe villas, the photos are from the bog standard ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    ^I have no idea. It was just to give an idea as to the look compared to the picture the other guy posted.
    Personally I don't like liner and fiberglass pools

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    my "salt water chlorination" system with a sand filter using Zelbright as the filtering media in nmy 9 x 5 meter pool works exceptionally well for me. Sparkling clean water, inexpensive to maintain once set up, limited time spent cleaning the pool (about 30 min a week) and virtually care free. I would not go any other way than with a "salt water chlorination" system and the Zelbright is one, if not the best, filtering media. although more expensive than sand, it last longer than and is measurably better as a filtering media. some say better than DE (diatomacious earth).
    "Don't Sweat the Small Stuff....and it is all small stuff"

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    ^what you are talking about is "Zeolite" it takes it down to 5 microns, I was actually going to recommend using it, any filter we need to top up we always us zeolite

    DE filters to much maintenance pissing about and then another chemical you need to buy DE powder

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    Quote Originally Posted by FarangRed View Post
    ^what you are talking about is "Zeolite" it takes it down to 5 microns, I was actually going to recommend using it, any filter we need to top up we always us zeolite

    DE filters to much maintenance pissing about and then another chemical you need to buy DE powder

    Mi Chi Farang Red. The product I'm using is Zelbrite Zelbrite - outstanding swimming pool filter media made from Zeolite and is called Zelbrite. It filter to 3 microns. Possibly a similar but improved or better product than what you are refering to.


    Zelbrite, for Outstanding Swimming Pool Filtration

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    • <LI class=emphasis>Filtration to Diatomaceous Earth (DE) standards (or better) with the convenience of sand. <LI class=emphasis>Reduces chemical usage and enhances chlorine performance <LI class=emphasis>Reduces pool odour, eye and skin irritation <LI class=emphasis>Savings in costs of maintaining pool water in optimal condition
    • Keeps your pool sparkling clean
    Zelbrite FAQ's

    Why should I use Zelbrite instead of sand in my filter?

    Zelbrite is the filter media of the future and has much more to offer.
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    How much Zelbrite do I need in my filter?

    Zelbrite has a lower bulk density than sand, hence you require 75% by weight of the amount of sand required, and this will vary depending on the size of the filter. A 15kg bag of Zelbrite is equivalent in volume to a 20kg bag of sand.
    Most filters have a name plate which will give you the size of the tank, e.g. 24in and also specify the amount of sand required, for example 140kg, which is 7x20kg bags of sand, or 7x15kg bags of Zelbrite.
    How well does Zelbrite filter

    Tests carried out by an Australian University prove that Zelbrite filters out dirt particles down to less than 1 micron. This compares with sand at 15 microns and diatomaceous earth (DE) at around 5 microns. Zelbrite also removes ammonium ions which inhibits formation of potentially harmful chloramine compounds.
    What is Zelbrite made from?

    Zelbrite is an Australian product. It is manufactured from naturally occurring zeolitic material which was formed as a result of ancient volcanic activity over 300 million years ago.
    Why do I have to backwash and rinse three times when I first install Zelbrite?

    As with new sand, you must backwash two or three times to clean out any dust. With Zelbrite the three backwash and rinse cycles ensures that any adhering clay is removed, and importantly, the different particle sizes are separated - the finer material rising to the top of the filter tank and the coarser grains settling to the bottom covering the laterals.
    Do I have to modify my filter?

    No, all domestic sand filters are suitable for use with Zelbrite.
    What does Zelbrite Regeneration mean?

    Zelbrite is able to adsorb ammonium ions from water however over time it will become saturated and unable to take up more ammonium ions. The process of regeneration removes the adsorbed ammonium ions, effectively 'refreshing' the Zelbrite. Even if Zelbrite is not regenerated, say once every one or two years, this will not affect its superior filtration performance.
    If I want to regenerate my Zelbrite, how do I do it?

    The procedure is very simple. It comprises adding sufficient pool salt to the filter to produce a 10% concentration, leave stand overnight before backwashing two or three times.
    Can I use Zelbrite with a Saltwater Chlorinator or Ioniser?

    Yes. Some of our distributors are also leading filter and saltwater chlorinator manufacturers and they recommend their chlorinators and ionisers be used with Zelbrite filters.
    If I have a saltwater pool do I still need occasionally to regenerate my Zelbrite?

    Yes, saltwater chlorinators typically produce water with a salt level of around 6000ppm which is not concentrated enough to regenerate the Zelbrite.
    How often do I have to replace Zelbrite?

    Filter manufacturers have always recommended that sand should be changed every 4 to 6 years. Zelbrite is as hard as sand so it will therefore last just as long.
    Will I have to backwash as often if I change from sand to Zelbrite?

    No, Zelbrite's superior filtration capability results in fewer backwashes being required. You should expect an extra 2 to 4 weeks between backwashes.
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    No, tests actually show that you can save up to 30% of water when using Zelbrite.
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    Yes, Zelbrite is used in many commercial pools. Among the latest to choose Zelbrite is the Canberra International Sports and Aquatic Centre which includes a 50 metre pool served by six filters with each filter holding a tonne of Zelbrite. You will find that many swim schools have changed to Zelbrite because it provides their customers with the best quality water and delivers significant savings on chemicals.
    Does Zelbrite have any effect pH?

    No, Zelbrite is pH neutral.
    Are there any additives or impurities in Zelbrite?

    No, Zelbrite is manufactured entirely from a naturally occurring zeolitic mineral resource. The manufacturing process does not involve treatment with, or addition, of any form of chemicals or other materials.
    Note: Direct Pool Supplies does not ship sand or Zelbrite due to the weight & high freight costs. We only sell it out of our shop for local pick up. Our customers can usually source the product locally.

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    ^Good info SEA. Thanks for the effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by English Noodles View Post
    ^Good info SEA. Thanks for the effort.
    No worries Noodles. Just want you to have accurate and factual info so that you can make a conscious informed decison.

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