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    Inside details of the house were starting to come along, clad walls and ceilings and then the cutting of the floorboards. You can see the same split level in the main lounge upstairs as there was in the house we purchased from phrae. normally this would be left open to allow cool breezes to cool the house but we were going to be putting walls in downstairs, so this would also be capped. Again all the wood is teak old teak not new with the fllors being redwood or mai pradu. all the windows were from the orginal house or purchased locally from a specialist door window seller. they normally range depending on size and wood from about 1500 to 3500 for something bigger.
    Alot of this is or will change due to modifications and improvements im doing because of problems not fixed at the initial build stage. Some serious like the section eaten by termites, which is now going to be replaced with steel joists and viva subfloor, with the same wood flooring on top. the reason for this is to in case of further issues and problems if we cant fix with chemicals straight away is we know they wont eat the steel. I personally dont have a problem with this modification because its not at a massive cost, and will serve to help make the house stronger and better to live in. (those pics of renovation will be coming at the end of this)
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    Great stuff, enjoying the update

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    hello, can you explain me why choosing expensive wood in this termites infested country ?! Thanks.

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    Im not quite sure if you mean to do a wood house or to use teak rather than a cheaper wood? but ill answer both.

    A concrete house would have been a more comfortable albeit lackluster material for us, we really like wood houses. If you put in the right treatment in the ground like we did with the rice barn guesthouse but not the house, termites tend to be less of an issue. Although simply putting the house off the ground also helps minimizes this, and only the house that has slab on ground has an issue and only on one side. We had been pretty lazy with the fact that there were termites and we might have been able to get something done before they had done more damage, but we are rectifying this issue and hopefully both the metal and ground system will fend them off for the next 5 years +

    The reason we chose teak is because it does very well at minimizing damage, where there is teak termites tend to travel over these areas and not destroy them, in a few places where teak was not used this can be seen most clear where the closest wood(teak) was traveled over to get to the wood that they had destroyed leaving the teak alone. The colour of old teak, and then general grain is very nice to look at. the price is not expensive if you get the wood yourself and even cheaper if you put it together(if you know how). it relies on less headaches than concrete and mistakes that can happen structurally, here and wood can be replaced in part if there is a problem.

    I would not recommend if doing it again to build the structure in wood on the ground, use raised foundation or piers to check underneath, you could if you wanted use steel for the frame and wood purely for cladding.

    We have a wood house, and when it gets a bit run down i replace the bits that need it and redo, sand finish the bits that need that.

    to sit in the house sometimes and look at the wood, and be in a wood house whilst it has downsides, beats the negatives, and I would find it very hard, at least here in chiangmai to live in a concrete building.

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    Oh I see the pictures are all back, in that case ignore those pics Ill just take some of the new things happening, and do all the renovation stuff instead. sorry I hadnt look back until now and thought all the pics were still down. my apologies for reposting

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    If someone can delete thos newest last posts with pics that would be greatly appreciated theyre just repeating page 1 to 6.

    What I will do is show what ive been doing to rectify the building standards which whilst fine, were nagging me, now with the house in diy mode everywhere, ive got until the end of the year to make things ship shape before my wife kicks me out.

    Mostly im improving silly lazy work that wasnt terrible but left a lot to be desired and when your using wood ou have to give a bit more time to detail.


    One of my biggest annoyances in the air pump gun used for everything, I have taken out thousands of these small needle nails and replaced with screws, I have redone the electrical wiring, roofing, flooring bathrooms and doors and windows. Where I can Im just updating and renovating, and if needs dictate and I need to start again, i take it off glue anything that split in the demolition and sand and start putting it back right.

    Ive still got lots to do so dont worry pics will follow and hopefully someone can get something interesting from this.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by glennb6 View Post
    hi

    I've been following the building threads for some time now. Wife and I hope to be able to retire back to Issan and tend our/her rubber trees. We'd like build a low cost house near them so I'm trying to get myself edumacated.

    1. Most houses I've seen and reviewed in the threads involve pilings driven multiple meters into the ground and the house then build a few meters up on them. Now I'm used to seeing houses here built upon concrete slabs. So... if you want a one story house on ground level why not compact/raise and compact the ground and pour a supporting slab for the ground floor ?

    2. I have the idea of buying enough teak or otherwise suitable wood from disassembled old wooden houses and assembling/using same to build upon a concrete slab. My point of reference is framed construction, not supporting pillars. Is this crazy or doable ?

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    Hi Glenn

    1. Well foundations are relevant to soil type, as I would guess most soils are clay and have a variation from very clayey to moderate will depend on how deep you go, the other reason for column foundations is that most house are concrete post and beam NOT load bearing walls like in the US or UK. Your foundations should be engineered and it would make sense get a local surveyor and thai drawings from local amphurs office, for a builder to follow. You could do a continuous concrete wall footing similar to the US if its 1 storey, but again it is really dependent on your soil.
    I dont understand what you mean in the latter part of your question about concrete slab, but if you were just to pour a slab on clay especially if the land has been raised, you will get movement you will get cracking from clay movement underneath. a concrete slab should be IMO raised off the ground, protecting against termites etc and should be a precast floor with a slab poured over this, less to go wrong in concrete pours the better.

    2.Anything is doable. The problem is if you are doing go ahead. If you want a thai builder to do it dont bother, because you will find it would have been better to di by yourself in the end. If youw ant US load bearing wood frames thats fine but consider termites, and give yourself a walled upside down T concrete foundation, where you raise the concrete footing above ground maybe 60cm and then precast floor and then final pour. I still think columns a re still better less concrete poured or maybe the same, but its what builders know. Do not use soft wood, hardwood(mai na kaeng etc) use only golden teak wood, get it from old houses if you like but technically its better to just by what lumber you need. This is my experience of almost 10 years of building and wood houses specifically.

    As a side note putting in pipes for terites is also a good idea or some sort of termite barrier around the foundations like permethrin or fipronil.

    PLywood and osb are hard to get good quality for timber framing, again be weary for termites, you can get teak plywood at double the price of normal ply. my experience is global is pretty good as well as independent sellers.
    9mm osb is about 300 badt
    10mm ply is about 415 badt
    10mm teak ply about 700 badt (its actually about 9mm)
    12mm ply is 500 badt
    15mm osb is 500 badt
    15mm ply 550 badt
    20mm ply 650 badt

    There are many different qualities nothing like what you find in quality like the states, it will warp if left out in the sun. I have actually used non teak ply on the rice barn we are building but this has termite protection and has only 8 specific points of entrance to the wood from the posts and so can be monitored. So far this has worked quite well.

    Hope that helps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JournalistsAreLiars View Post
    hello, can you explain me why choosing expensive wood in this termites infested country ?! Thanks.
    why do you think its expensive? Termites in my long experience although whilst they can eat teak, seem to skip it.

    Therre is never a problem to use wood, to be safe build a house out of metal like hbeam etc and use wood fascias and for decoration. I see no problem using wood if you have good protection and our slab is raised.

    Im not very fond of concrete housing, myself, so thats the main reason.

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    sorry im not sure why its not showing the picture and you haave to click it. but there you go.

    so This is the renovation of the house, there is a lot to do and its a big house, so it might take some time. In these pictures you can see the main house there used to be walls here and a bathroom.
    I had taken the redwood floorboards up and replaced with viva board 16mm. This sub floor had to be flat and square it wasnt previously. This was on 3"x3" teak joists, they needed cutting, sanding and levelling. This meant adding strips to the cross beams where they were originally purposely tilted(dont ask).
    Ive used viva before and its very strong and can get wet repeatedely. This bathroom floor will have wood attached to it the same redwood screwed into the subfloor. This will be a satin finish if possible. the shower area will be frame construction again using 10mm viva board to create a tanked or waterproofed area with a cemenetitous flexible membrane.

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    This is the bathroom below the upstairs bathroom im working on.

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    Here is the ceiling, this is an exposed wood beam ceiling with 3x3" teak joists and viva board. I use epoxy to glue the boards together. The viva will be painted white.

    This was tricky because i was working on the outside wall and a roof extension too. This came about from doing the roof and needing to remove the wall.

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    is there a way to not get a link? I simply uploaded from quick reply, clicked the add photo added from my phones library but unlike on a computer it doesnt input the picture but a link? cheers

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    It seems you forgot to use image tags. You need this [img] before the picture url and this [/img] after it. Don't leave any spaces.

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