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    Bright ideas?

    I have some questions and problems need fixing, i know that most will say ask your builder, but i like to understand things wholly and not just from one side or view.

    The first is the last bit to be completed, the wall and gate.

    We are thinking of using bamboo panels in between concrete or brick posts, the foundation concrete was laid previously for supporting the infill. What is better or preffered for mouting bamboo?

    (we need 693 poles to run a length of 45.50 m one side of wall)

    The second issue also relates to the wall, this time the front wall and gate. We are having small clay brick built up like in temple perimeter walls. Do we need any foundation for this?

    Is it likey we have to pour pillars and then fill with block and then facade with brick?

    any suggestions?


    The last one is about electric, i have asked questions already but the more i read about electrics the more confused and nervous i feel about leaving it at the hands of someone who might not know how to wire earth etc. Is there a body, or agency or even some drawings that show a live, neutral and earthed system so i can make my point clear?

    I want to use a m.e.n system but not sure what to look out for on the supply transformer or to trust my electrician to know, if i am starting from scratch i want to get it right first time, any info would be greatly appreciated.

    here are two ideas taken from some helpful people:





    Im still not sure about how much can go on what cricuit breaker like all lights on one breaker or like the second diagram only some? We are not having aircon at the moment, but will be adding in the future. as much info needed from anyone willing?

    MAny thanks to those who have already given useful information!

    cheers
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    Would you please re image your stuff so it doesn't spread all over the bloody place?

    Please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by benlovesnuk View Post
    I have some questions and problems need fixing, i know that most will say ask your builder, but i like to understand things wholly and not just from one side or view.

    The first is the last bit to be completed, the wall and gate.

    We are thinking of using bamboo panels in between concrete or brick posts, the foundation concrete was laid previously for supporting the infill. What is better or preffered for mouting bamboo?

    (we need 693 poles to run a length of 45.50 m one side of wall)

    The second issue also relates to the wall, this time the front wall and gate. We are having small clay brick built up like in temple perimeter walls. Do we need any foundation for this?

    Is it likey we have to pour pillars and then fill with block and then facade with brick?

    any suggestions?


    The last one is about electric, i have asked questions already but the more i read about electrics the more confused and nervous i feel about leaving it at the hands of someone who might not know how to wire earth etc. Is there a body, or agency or even some drawings that show a live, neutral and earthed system so i can make my point clear?

    I want to use a m.e.n system but not sure what to look out for on the supply transformer or to trust my electrician to know, if i am starting from scratch i want to get it right first time, any info would be greatly appreciated.

    here are two ideas taken from some helpful people:





    Im still not sure about how much can go on what cricuit breaker like all lights on one breaker or like the second diagram only some? We are not having aircon at the moment, but will be adding in the future. as much info needed from anyone willing?

    MAny thanks to those who have already given useful information!

    cheers
    get as much inf on it as you can and do it yourself!
    not much hope of finding a thai "electrician " who understands the concept of an earth leakage system.
    calculate how much draw you will be pulling on each particular circuit and us the CORRECT THICKNESS OF WIRE, and match that to your breaker.
    the wires are amperage rated

    no point in bunging in a 60 amp breaker if the wires are gonna burn at 20 amps.
    in isaan they do an "electrical inspection" before switching on your meter:
    first requirement:... a 60 amp fuse....mandatory!!!
    and it is ok if you run 10 amp cables from the meter to the fukkn fuse!!!!

    ..so if you draw more than 10 amp, your cables are gonna melt before the fuse does!
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    Too many questions in one post.

    Keep it simple if you want answers. One thread = one question. There is a couple of knowledgeable people here but they are a bit snobish. You have to show you have thought about the problem before they bring there insight

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    sorry about the mess of the thread, this is what the inside of my head looks like at the moment!!!!!!

    Forget about the wall issues not important by far.

    Lets concentrate on electrical, if you dont mind.

    I am confused mainly at the point of what to buy (as i have a labour only deal and i pay for materials)?

    As i dont know what system i should, or even could use im stuck at the first hurdle of getting a diagram.

    Is there anyway of knowing if your electrical line is capable for M>E>N ?

    cheers

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    New electircal question

    Hello all whilst drinking my beer Lao imported from a recent trip to Laos, i thought id start getting to grips with the house build as we are starting again. Hopefully this time to finish. sort of!

    anyway Really i have 2 main questions:

    1) I want to run a consumer unit with RCBO on all circuits, i believe i just need RCBO and the main isolator switch?

    2) I want to run a separate unit for a specific area (home cinema) Any suggestions how this is done safely, properly etc so i can watch them and correct if they start to do it wrong.

    Im hoping that RCBO's will keep what hair i have left on my head not worrying at night about the electrics and if i watch them bond the earth and stick into the ground and connect every circuit i will be a happy man!

    By they i mean electrician, not based on race gender or other!

    Cheers



    Something like this

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    no point in bunging in a 60 amp breaker if the wires are gonna burn at 20 amps.
    That is exactly what the cnuts have done for me.

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    In that case what size cable is needed for what amps, if anyone would be so kind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by superman View Post
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    no point in bunging in a 60 amp breaker if the wires are gonna burn at 20 amps.
    That is exactly what the cnuts have done for me.

    you need a 60 amp fuse if you have a consumer unit with several 20 amp fuses in operation

    that is what they do in the UK too, seems reasonable

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    Hi thanks for that, although it seems relevant to American gauge and amps which are different to Thailand i believe? We have 63 amp they 60 etc. Obviuosly thats not hard for me to work out.

    Also the VDI workings lost me halfway through, but thanks anyway.

    I have heard something about needing maybe a higher gauge because of the temp/humidity in Thailand, does anyone know about this.

    I will try to provide a plan and what im looking at getting relevant to lights outlets etc for more specific help.

    Thanks for everyone's input.

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    I was looking at the RCBO fuses and it has two types 6ka and 10ka with the 10ka being more expensive, what loads can go where safely? i.e am i alright to run a shower on 6ka, would electric sockets need 10ka??

    any help would be great!

    Cheers
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    they come in all sorts of ratings, not just those two

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    Hi Dr. A, Im not talking about amps(i presume thats what you mean)?

    This is K/amps for the whole fuse circuit, i believe fuses for circuits are only rated at at 6 or 10 k/A i think in domestic use, unless its an isolating switch or surge arrester, or for going into a load center, that need to shut down bigger loads. I believe 6k/a and 10 are all that is needed, but as the cost is almost double i am wondering what is it that normally goes on 10k/a rather then 6k/amps?

    Any help would be great.

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